1)I have a next door neighbor that has had an Ariens ZTR for 15 years and it still makes his lawn look like a golf course. In fact, I just purchased a new Gravely Pro-Turn 152 XDZ zero turn and they are made by Ariens Co.(Gravely has made farm, lawn & other power equipment since 1916 and was purchased by Ariens in 2008). My neighbor's experience with Ariens and the Gravely build quality/warranty/price when I compared it to a half dozen other well known brands was my top choice and I am very happy with it.Is ariens a good ok or bad brand for mowers
Is cub cadet a good ok or bad brand for mowers
Is ariens a good ok or bad brand for mowers
Is cub cadet a good ok or bad brand for mowers
Is ariens a good ok or bad brand for mowers
Is cub cadet a good ok or bad brand for mowers
Both are good brand mowers, I prefer the Cub Cadet. I've used the Cubs for years without any problems and I'd go with them before Ariens.
So you like Cub Cadets? For some reason I have the notion that they are not built that well. Is that true?
The Cub Cadets are a very well built mower. I've run the the Z Force mowers for years and have never had any problems. My 48" ZTR was purchased in November 2010 and now has over 600hrs and the only thing I've done to that mower has been to replace the deck belt twice. There Walk Behind mowers like the G1336 was flawless and so are there caster self propelled mowers (CC98H).
The problem that Cub Cadet has is all the negative publicity they get about it being made by MTD which IMO a load of crap.
OK. How about their normal rider mowers? I mean I know they aren't built like they used to be, but are they still good??
There's nothing wrong with there normal mowers as you say and is anything built like it used to be? People need to understand what they're buying . The greatest percentage of mowers you buy at Home Depot or low end mowers are designed for a specific use. There meant for someone who has a residents with maybe 1/8 acre or 1/4 acre lot for a once a week cut, there not intended for everyday use. So are they still good, Yes as good as any other mower they have on the lot for there intended use.
There's nothing wrong with there normal mowers as you say and is anything built like it used to be? People need to understand what they're buying . The greatest percentage of mowers you buy at Home Depot or low end mowers are designed for a specific use. There meant for someone who has a residents with maybe 1/8 acre or 1/4 acre lot for a once a week cut, there not intended for everyday use. So are they still good, Yes as good as any other mower they have on the lot for there intended use.
I think that the point made here by Ric is the key to unrealistic expectations by some mower shoppers. If you buy a Cub Cadet, John Deere or any "name brand" at a big box retailer like Lowes or Home Depot and you expect the same quality as buying that same brand through a "dealer" you are just kidding yourself. My original post in this thread, where I quoted my niece having major problems with a Cub Cadet was indeed a residential unit she purchased from Home Depot. Unfortunately(she didn't ask me for advice), she just replaced that mower with a John Deere lawn tractor from Lowes(instead of going to the John Deere dealer half a mile from Lowes). I looked at the JD's at the local dealer when I was shopping for ZTR's and considered buying a 645, and I asked the sales manager if the JD's at Lowes were the same quality as the lawn tractors he had....he just laughed and shook his head. Yeah, my niece probably saved a couple hundred bucks from getting a similar lawn tractor from the dealer, but it's like the old addage..."you get what you pay for":0)
I think that the point made here by Ric is the key to unrealistic expectations by some mower shoppers. If you buy a Cub Cadet, John Deere or any "name brand" at a big box retailer like Lowes or Home Depot and you expect the same quality as buying that same brand through a "dealer" you are just kidding yourself. My original post in this thread, where I quoted my niece having major problems with a Cub Cadet was indeed a residential unit she purchased from Home Depot. Unfortunately(she didn't ask me for advice), she just replaced that mower with a John Deere lawn tractor from Lowes(instead of going to the John Deere dealer half a mile from Lowes). I looked at the JD's at the local dealer when I was shopping for ZTR's and considered buying a 645, and I asked the sales manager if the JD's at Lowes were the same quality as the lawn tractors he had....he just laughed and shook his head. Yeah, my niece probably saved a couple hundred bucks from getting a similar lawn tractor from the dealer, but it's like the old addage..."you get what you pay for":0)
If you go to lowes and look at a mower then go to JD dealer and look at the same exact model they are the same exact mower.
JD does not make the same model mower different for the dealer then they do for lowes.
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LMF(you didn't by chance pick a forum user name with the same initials as the forum did you:0)I am pretty sure that the mowers from Lowe's are worse quality, but I could be wrong.
LMF(you didn't by chance pick a forum user name with the same initials as the forum did you:0)..............................I don't think Lowes would do that for a scratch on a JD mower that they sell(but I too reserve the right to be wrong:0)
Carscw,A JD sold at lowes and the same model sold at the JD dealer is made at the same factory by the same people and sold to both for the same price.
Either way they are junk.
I would buy from the dealer always
They will test it and make sure all is right.
The dealer will sell it at the same price as lowes.
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djdicetn said:Carscw,
So is what you are saying.....if you buy a JD 100 series regardless of where you buy it you are, as forum user Ric put it, "buying a low end mower at best". But if you purchase one of the JD series 300, 500 or 700 series lawn tractors(available ONLY at the dealer) then you are getting a real "John Deere quality" piece of equipment?
Yes a JD 100 is a low end mower at best.
And yes you can only get the 300 and up from the dealer.
And did not know JD made a quality mower.
JD makes good farm tractors but as far as mowers go why not save some $ and get a craftsman better price and better built
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Now I'm not a fan of JD and JD mowers sold at Lowes and HD are a low end mowers at best, but there still a better mower than a Craftsman.
CZLawnCare,If you want a real machine pick up one of these, I'd like to see a craftsman pull that as well as my x304
If you want a real machine pick up one of these, I'd like to see a craftsman pull that as well as my x304
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CZLawnCare,
No offense intended, but about what does an X304 cost new? Since the main purpose of a lawn tractor is to cut grass not pull stuff I've got to ask.....with a 42" "stamped deck" can you attest that it leaves as professional of a cut lawn as a ZTR(or even a lawn tractor) with a fabricated deck costing about the same??? As I eluded to earlier in this thread, I paid $1,800 for a 2006 54" Craftsman with a 10 gauge stamped deck and with a mulch kit it had a VERY even, "close to" professional cut. I was a little disappointed when I visited my JD dealer and they couldn't show me any ZTR's in the $6,000 range that had a fabricated deck. That's an awful lot of money to pay for a 9 gauge stamped deck like the Z645 they showed me. My Gravely has a reinforced 7 gauge(lifetime warranty) deck and the Bad Boy I looked at had a 5 gauge deck(that's solid 1/4 inch thick deck). I just felt like the JD's were "overpriced" for what you get.