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Mattmotors

Please tell me how you keep mice out of your equipment. This is my Simplicity SS922 . No wonder why it was surging.2.jpeg


#2

Scrubcadet10

Scrubcadet10

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And if that doesn't work, I would put bait boxes out with poison in them,. The only way to get rid of mice is to kill them and make sure there is minimal junk and clutter around.


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mystic240

Feed them, with poison of course.


#4

StarTech

StarTech

They have to get past the gauntlet here of about 40 chickens then I feed them the Tom Cat bait here. Now I do have few chickens that just likes to them and leave them laying.

Now I mine the mice so much as they are other people mowers. $$$$


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ILENGINE

In my case 3 barn cats and a dog that is starting to turn into a good mouser himself. Had a dog a few years back that would put any cat to shame when it came to mousing. He would make a trip around the yard every morning looking for mice in equipment and other things. I saw him grab 5 in his mouth at one time. Walked around with a tail sticking out the front, and two out each side of his mouth.


#6

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bertsmobile1

And note Illengine said BARN cats.
You get them as kittens and put them in the barn in a cage with some of your old worn underwear but left unwashed so they bond with you.
You need a big cage, I used a converted childs play pen I got from the salvage store for $ 5
After a week of being in the pen, it gets opened but the cat is locked up overnight & only fed in side the pen in the mornings .
Gradually let it out more then when it is bigger than a rat, leave it out all night.
Give it a short name like Cat, Bob, etc and call it every time you feed it so it gets used to coming when you call.
You can train cats , it just takes a lot longer & more effort than a dog.
I keep a dish with some small chunks of lamb's heart next to me when doing bench work & occasionally flick one onto the floor .
This trains the cat to find whatever you drop on the floor , much easier than getting on your hands & knees with a torch.
A trigger sprayer with about 0.5% citruis oil in it works the same for cats as a rolled newspaper for a dog so when it jumps up on the bench a quick squirt will send it away.

The other biggie is to pull the blower housing off everything .
Mice do not like open roof dwellings


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RayMcD

Mattmotors said:
Please tell me how you keep mice out of your equipment. This is my Simplicity SS922 . No wonder why it was surging.View attachment 59363
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mystic240 said:
Feed them, with poison of course.
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Let's not, all that does is poison someone's cat or an unsupecting bird. Much easier way to get rid of mice.r


#8

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RayMcD

Hands down the easiest way to rid of on your property is a 5 gallon bucket with a flip trap lid, little peanut butter and couple inches of water. No poison needed. Simple google will find these available. I make my own with old campain signs, no more mices... this works better than a cat...Cheers, r

BTW, this also works good for Chipmunks, the little hole digging suckers I have grew very tired..

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RayMcD

mystic240 said:
Feed them, with poison of course.
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Please do not, it kills folks cats and unsuspecting bird life, see my update further down..r


#10

XT1guy

XT1guy

If you poison them. make sure you don't let the cat get to them. (if you have a cat). Of course, when the Maccaw goes outside we get some rats. My solution is this,
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bertsmobile1

house mice will go for peanut butter, cheese and a whole pile of things
Field mice will not go for this because peanuts are not part of their diet
For field mice I have found the best bait is fresh baked bread / scones / piklets etc
This is because their primary food is plant seeds
They will also go for some bird seed feeders , plain rolled oats , barley etc .


#12

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eebix

certain dryer sheets work wonders.


#13

reel mower freak

reel mower freak

RayMcD said:
Hands down the easiest way to rid of on your property is a 5 gallon bucket with a flip trap lid, little peanut butter and couple inches of water. No poison needed. Simple google will find these available. I make my own with old campain signs, no more mices... this works better than a cat...Cheers, r

BTW, this also works good for Chipmunks, the little hole digging suckers I have grew very tired..

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Absolutely the best trap. I use windshield washer fluid for the liquid in winter so it doesn’t freeze. Only type of trap that keeps catching without needing to be emptied.


#14

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rustycat

Cat's, lots of cats.


#15

TonyPrin

TonyPrin

The main problem with mice is they chew through wires, creating huge problems. There are ways to keep mice from your equipment, but I don't differentiate between which places I prefer over others. Best to use bait. Look for one containing (in my preference order) brodifacoum, difethialone, or bromadiolone. Otherwise set traps, either snap or glue traps.


#16

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CDE

Watch "Mousetrap Monday" on YouTube. Shawn Woods has a lot of info on this.


#17

oldlawnguy

oldlawnguy

I've found the hard way up here in the U.S. Northeast; when you are getting ready to store the rider mower for the winter in the old shed:

1. after last use, make sure you leave the mower outside the shed with hood open and let the engine cool to *cold* again
2. then push the mower in the shed, after battery has been removed :)
3. line the shed with TOMCAT blocks

A nice warm engine after dark in a shed is surely tempting for a ?


#18

strohmoose

strohmoose

Pee on the ground around the equipment!


#19

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1 Lucky Texan

This comes up on some car forums I frequent. Several things to try or in combinations;

Cat -uh- 'clumps' - from a litter box. put under/near the equipment. May need to refresh occasionally

Coyote urine. supposedly available from hunting supplies retailers?

Snake sheds. find someone that keeps snakes, or a pet store or zoo that may be able to get you a snake's shed skin. Move it around/refresh occasionally.

Rubber or inflatable snake, move it around too.


#20

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JJF1

Mattmotors said:
Please tell me how you keep mice out of your equipment. This is my Simplicity SS922 . No wonder why it was surging.View attachment 59363
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You can try peppermint oil. Buy a small concentrate bottle and add a couple drops with water in a spray bottle and spay it now and then. I have had mice nests in my air cooled mower engine which overheated and led to blown head gaskets and push rods. Not good. Always check for nests before you run your eqp.


#21

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oneoldsap

I take all the tin off and blow them out , every Spring . Tractors , Z-Turns and all !


#22

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1 Lucky Texan

TonyPrin said:
The main problem with mice is they chew through wires, creating huge problems. There are ways to keep mice from your equipment, but I don't differentiate between which places I prefer over others. Best to use bait. Look for one containing (in my preference order) brodifacoum, difethialone, or bromadiolone. Otherwise set traps, either snap or glue traps.
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Yep, a lot of companies tried to use soy-based plastic insulation on wires starting in the late 90s I think. Another reason cars/equipment can be attractive to rodents. And, I think most rodent teeth are constantly growing so, they like to chew on stuff. Around here, they will chew through lead vent pipe jacks on your roof even.


#23

EatPreyMow

EatPreyMow

mystic240 said:
Feed them, with poison of course.
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Please don't use poison, the mice ingest it but live long enough to be eaten by larger predators which could be someon's pet or a bird of prey:
www.hometownlife.com

Poison suspected in death of injured bald eagle found on bike path in western Northville

Bob Ondrus heard a whooshing sound then saw the bald eagle laying on a bike path. Wildlife groups tried to help the bird, but it was too late.
www.hometownlife.com


#24

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Puppydog

Try setting a cup of ammonia on it. Had a rat in my shed where I store lawnmowers. Put 2 cups of ammonia in shed with some sticky pads. Have not seen it since.


#25

gamma_ray

gamma_ray

RayMcD said:
Hands down the easiest way to rid of on your property is a 5 gallon bucket with a flip trap lid, little peanut butter and couple inches of water. No poison needed. Simple google will find these available. I make my own with old campain signs, no more mices... this works better than a cat...Cheers, r

BTW, this also works good for Chipmunks, the little hole digging suckers I have grew very tired..

rat bucket trap at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.
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You can also string an empty can (soft drink, beer) across the top of the bucket (couple of inches water in the bucket of course) and put the PB bait on that. They try to tight-rope walk out to the bait, but go diving instead.

I worked on a North Dakota drillsite a few years back where, in the summertime, there are so many mice around the rattlesnakes can't keep up. The Company rep. used this trap and caught many mice.


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TrentonJ

I've had this problem. They make nasty nests and chew wires. My equipment is also accessible by wild varmints (racoon, possum, etc.) and neighborhood pets, so I have to be careful about putting out traps and poison. I devised my own safe poison feeder. I bought 3 in. x 2 ft. foamcore pvc pipe and two 3 to 1-1/2 in. reducers for each end of each pipe. I pack the pipe with poison bait and friction fit the reducers on each end. Then place the reducers in the middle cell of cinder block at each end to prevent the varmints from rolling it around and reaching in for the bait. The width of the blocks also prevents their reaching in. You might have to also place heavy rocks on the blocks as raccoon are strong. I used foamcore pvc because it is cheap. At the time I found 2-ft. lengths at Home Depot, but checking right now I can't find other than 10 ft. length. The product codes at Home Depot for the pipe are:
Internet #100173538
Model #53723
Store SKU #295096
Store SO SKU #136293
You likely can find it at other stores.
Keep a check on your feeder and replenish as needed.

I've read that rodents hate the odor of mint, so I bought concentrated mint oil. I put a few drops in a sprayer with water and spray my equipment, but I don't know how well or long that lasts.


#27

IaFarmer

IaFarmer

Moth balls work. You'll need help collecting them, it's hard to hold the wings and castrate at the same time.


#28

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rar4228

Mattmotors said:
Please tell me how you keep mice out of your equipment. This is my Simplicity SS922 . No wonder why it was surging.View attachment 59363
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I had trouble with mice and I now put moth balls in the engine compartment and where ever their is wires. They chewed on my wiring one time, not had any problems since putting moth balls.


#29

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geehaw

EatPreyMow said:
Please don't use poison, the mice ingest it but live long enough to be eaten by larger predators which could be someon's pet or a bird of prey:
www.hometownlife.com

Poison suspected in death of injured bald eagle found on bike path in western Northville

Bob Ondrus heard a whooshing sound then saw the bald eagle laying on a bike path. Wildlife groups tried to help the bird, but it was too late.
www.hometownlife.com
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Report says eagle died of lead poison. Is there lead in mouse poison?


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maxspeed

I learned the hard way about mouse damage. I am in a rural area and mice everywhere. All of my neighbors deal with the same problem. Here is what we learned.
1) **** don't put bait next to or anywhere near your equipment. They will smell it from a long way off . They damage equipment with urine and chewing on wiring and hoses.
2) Use small pieces of Irish spring soap on and around your area that you want to protect.
3) Use the cheapest dryer sheets that you can buy at Walmart and do the same thing.
Of course you will need to replace these at some interval.
I have tractors and a skid steer and drawers full of tools that they have almost ruined.
Moth balls don't really work!


#31

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rustycat

Cat's , lots of them.


#32

StarTech

StarTech

geehaw said:
Report says eagle died of lead poison. Is there lead in mouse poison?
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You did not fully read the article. Comment from the article.
Sagaert said. "After the eagle died we did a blood test that showed the eagle did not die from lead poisoning."
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Now they did not update the article but they were running tests to what may have kill it.

The industry has reduce the strength of rat/mouse poisons as lower are less likely to get killing dose if they eat only one. This why it is so hard to kill off mice now with most poisons. Most usually dies in their dens now.

But about 7 yrs I a bald eagle that nearly died from steel poisoning. Luckily he turn his head in time.


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rgrottk

I use the TRex reusable snap traps and then with the family is eliminated. I spray full strength Pine Sol all over the engine and access area's they hate the smell and stay away. The trick is to do this at least monthly to keep them discouraged....


#34

StarTech

StarTech

Personally it is crazy to be using things that is known to attract the mice in the first place.

I had back telling about Ford using soybean wire insulation. They telling his son to be spraying the harnesses with WD-40 every month for they only cover replacing the harness once. IF get told that I just walk away from a new vehicle purchase and buy an older vehicle.


#35

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skiman

Make up some bags with moth balls...keep most pest away...i make out of burlap sacks and tie off...put around the equipment...


#36

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Gord Baker

I take fine mesh Chicken Wire and stuff it in holes around air shrouds and other areas of entry. Crumple it up as mice can get through very small holes.
Stuff some Moth Balls in the mesh wherever you can. Put out bait as well if possible with no other animals around.


#37

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enigma-2

Mice and rats hate peppermint and cinnamon oils. This brand claims to last all winter (i haven't used it but tempted when current supplies run out). Just put a bag or two near your equipment.



#38

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Bellcrank

I use these Victor paddle traps at outside corners of buildings with or without bait. Works like a champ. Thanks for the question, lots of good idea's listed. Always look for those little piece's of what ever hanging out of outside edge of the blower housing and the shield under the cylinder fins.
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#39

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enigma-2

StarTech said:
I had back telling about Ford using soybean wire insulation.
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Since the year 2000, almost all car manufacturers started using the soy-based wiring insulation.
StarTech said:
IF get told that I just walk away from a new vehicle purchase and buy an older vehicle.
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In that case you would be driving a car over 20 years old. ?

I've had problems with mice getting into garage. Finally decided to seal it up and stop all points of entry. Stopped 90% on mice. Last 10% enter when we leave door open in fall. So, overhead door is only open when necessary. Never leave door open unnecessarily. (Have wireless keypad on outside to close it from outside). Plus I keep a "resident" mousetrap set with peanut butter in a corner, near the overhead door. Keep them out and kill the ones that get in.


#40

StarTech

StarTech

enigma-2 said:
In that case you would be driving a car over 20 years old. ?
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Whoa my pickup is 20 yrs with 340K on the meter. Still going strong except for the rear bumper I bent recently at Kroger. And my Honda is Accord is a 1989 with 310K miles. At least they don't takes a specialist to repair them.


#41

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CaptFerd

The only time I had that problem was when I kept seeds for grass and birds in the shed. Cut of the food supply there is something around they are eating.


#42

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Mikelk

Mattmotors said:
Please tell me how you keep mice out of your equipment. This is my Simplicity SS922 . No wonder why it was surging.View attachment 59363
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Cat!


#43

Massey28617

Massey28617

I have sure seen that before! I take wire screening and make a pocket. Then put a bar of Irish Spring soap in the pouch and tie it securely in the problem area. I have bars under the hoods of all my equipment and vehicles. Since doing this, no more mouse nests….they hate the soap smell! Change the soap bar every couple years to keep it fragrant.


#44

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bertsmobile1

Bellcrank said:
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HAve not seen them down here yet
My problem is field mice are very small and thus very light so did not trip any spring loaded trap no matter how far i ground the trigger back to the point they would spring if the front door closed hard.
I found the tip over traps worked a lot better and they get used inside the office
The crusts get threaded onto some very fine cotton so they can be positioned a long way up the counter balance tube thus a 20 gram mouse will trip the trap.
But the shed cat down stairs works a lot better as nothing gets to go upstairs overnight


#45

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robertschemenauer

Mattmotors said:
Please tell me how you keep mice out of your equipment. This is my Simplicity SS922 . No wonder why it was surging.View attachment 59363
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Scrubcadet10 said:
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And if that doesn't work, I would put bait boxes out with poison in them,. The only way to get rid of mice is to kill them and make sure there is minimal junk and clutter around.
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I keep a old boom box on 24/7.It only costs power.


#46

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catman606

bertsmobile1 said:
HAve not seen them down here yet
My problem is field mice are very small and thus very light so did not trip any spring loaded trap no matter how far i ground the trigger back to the point they would spring if the front door closed hard.
I found the tip over traps worked a lot better and they get used inside the office
The crusts get threaded onto some very fine cotton so they can be positioned a long way up the counter balance tube thus a 20 gram mouse will trip the trap.
But the shed cat down stairs works a lot better as nothing gets to go upstairs overnight
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Bert, as many snakes as you guys have, I didn't figure mice would be a problem.


#47

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DABS

First, understand that mice do not have bladders. They secrete tiny droplets as they walk. They use their noses to lead them through their routes thus limiting any need for sight in dark walls etc. They rely heavily on their sense of smell. Anything with a heavy aroma to confuse their ability to smell will scare them off. Dryer sheets, mothballs etc all work well. Baby powder is awesome because it smells good and easily invades. The nostrils.


#48

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bertsmobile1

catman606 said:
Bert, as many snakes as you guys have, I didn't figure mice would be a problem.
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I am assuming you are making a joke , in which case I had a chuckle
Snakes eat at best 1 mouse a day for week then find some where warm to lie & digest them for 3 or 4 days but most will take a single mouse then go off for 2 days to digest it because while they are digesting they are vunerable to preditors .
A single mouse can have a litter of 15 pups every 21 days and those mice will start breeding in 14 days .
Because of the bushfires the previous year, last season there was a mouse plague in the wheat belt and this year numbers are already building up.
My state lost 30% of it's wheat crop last year to mice .
Birds would take more mice in a season than snakes.
A breeding pair of eagles with the std 3 chicks in a nest will happily go through 30 mice a day .
And this is the big problem for farmers because baiting mice ends up killing the birds so a second plague happens almost the instant the first one ends .
Then once you have killed 200,000,000 mice what do you do with them ?
There was some news footage to make the city livers aware of the magnitude of the problem showing a line of B double tip trucks qued at a fertalizer plant all full of mice from a single wheat silo.
This year there is plenty of water so the farmers will most likely burn the mice alive by laying napalm around 30' wide around an entire field then setting fire to it


#49

StarTech

StarTech

Bert I don't think he understands that the Assuies have plagues of mice among other animal plagues. Of course everything seems to be out to kill you too. I remember when NormK was having the possum problems. They are cute but can drive you crazy. They are nothing like the American Opossum which is a killing machine.

And what to do with the mice, have you tried exporting them to China and the Far East countries. I know that impossible to do; oh well it was a thought.


#50

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Mattmotors

Snakes... I work on outboard motors as a hobby. One of my motors had evidence of mice under the cowling. And a snake skin shed.


#51

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bertsmobile1

There is a funny idea that kangaroos hop down George St ( main street in Sydney ) and you can not put a food down outdoors without treading on a snake .
Our average snake bite rate is around 500 ( out of 35,000,000 population + ~ 10,000,000 tourists & guest workers )
From that 2 a year are generally fatal
Over 90% of snake bites are on the right forearm of men and were the results of the (He) man deciding to kill the snake with a shovel & missing .
Snakes are cowards , we are way too big for them to eat , even babies , so they see us as potentially eating them ( black fellas do eat them & they are good tucker ) .
The big loosers with snakes are dogs because even a well trained one will not leave a snake alone so that ends up being a contest as to which one is faster .
Because dogs have a lot less body weight than people they usually die regardless of weather they get immediate medical attention or not
For cats it is always fatal .
The USA apparently has around 10 snake bite deaths annually and is about 10 times our population so you have roughly twice the chance of a fatal snake bite down here as you have at home
OTOH we have around 2000 road deaths a year , about 15 tourist die of thirst in the desert ( mostly Europeans ) , prior to Covid Crockadiles knocked off around 3 people a year, mostly US & German tourists .
Poker machines ( slot machines to some ) account for more deaths than all the wildlife added together .


#52

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Homeuser66

I've put moth balls all around my shed and some on the lawnmower. I also put those green poison bait boxes out. Haven't had an issue in a few years.


#53

StarTech

StarTech

Then more power to us lefties...LOL. I know it a right handed world. But lefties are the only ones in their right mind if the doctors and scientists have it right.

And boy I hate right handed only things. I need a pair oven mitts with silicone pads, Do they make for both hands? No just the right one or at least that all I have found so far.

It is humans that are humans worst enemy. And many are kill over senseless things too. For some even a brain transplant won't help.


#54

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1 Lucky Texan

Rodents don't want to nest near snakes. A snake may be sated with a single adult as mentioned by bert, but could gulp down most or all the pinkies or fuzzies in a nest.

I went to a herpetological meeting where a physician from a rural county spoke. He had treated 8 people bitten by snakes (western diamond back rattlers) in several decades of practice. 2 of them were envenomed.(one of those had anaphylactic shock from the antivenin, it is made from horse serum and the Doc speculated the patient had probably encountered horse meat in the past - maybe in a cheap tamale! hah) Snakes can 'dry bite' as they need their venom for feeding or, venom is depleted from recent feeding. But, they certainly can envenom. . You are 'most' likely to get the venom when they mistake your foot or hand for prey. Like reaching around a log or even walking along an animal path. Other times, when actually threatened, they may bite without envenomation to frighten an attacker away. Rattlers and maybe some other pit vipers, actually bite, release, then track their prey. Eating them after they collapse.

And being successfully treated for a bite .all is not necessarily good, a guy in the audience had been bitten and treated, but had to walk with a cane now.


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bertsmobile1

A radio interview mentioned that the last 3 fatal black snake bikes were all from people cleaning their drains
Black snakes eat mainly other snakes, reptiles & amphibians so the often sit in drains waiting for dinner to pass by .
Very few of the common "pests" are actually pests once you understand them so you can then either live with them or discourage them .
Erradication is never a solution because more of the same will come & take their place or what ever they ate will then multiply to plague proportions .
The only exception is introduced species but even then, if they have naturalised to that local environment then removing them will have consequences


#56

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enigma-2

bertsmobile1 said:
There is a funny idea that kangaroos hop down George St ( main street in Sydney ) and you can not put a food down outdoors without treading on a snake .
Our average snake bite rate is around 500 ( out of 35,000,000 population + ~ 10,000,000 tourists & guest workers )
From that 2 a year are generally fatal
Over 90% of snake bites are on the right forearm of men and were the results of the (He) man deciding to kill the snake with a shovel & missing .
Snakes are cowards , we are way too big for them to eat , even babies , so they see us as potentially eating them ( black fellas do eat them & they are good tucker ) .
The big loosers with snakes are dogs because even a well trained one will not leave a snake alone so that ends up being a contest as to which one is faster .
Because dogs have a lot less body weight than people they usually die regardless of weather they get immediate medical attention or not
For cats it is always fatal .
The USA apparently has around 10 snake bite deaths annually and is about 10 times our population so you have roughly twice the chance of a fatal snake bite down here as you have at home
OTOH we have around 2000 road deaths a year , about 15 tourist die of thirst in the desert ( mostly Europeans ) , prior to Covid Crockadiles knocked off around 3 people a year, mostly US & German tourists .
Poker machines ( slot machines to some ) account for more deaths than all the wildlife added together .
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Yup, all good mate, but its the sneaky, kangaroos ya gotta watch out for. Little buggers sneak up on ya and ... pow.

Deadly.

Hey, I seen Crocodile Dundee, three times. I know all about those roos.

Grin


#57

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bertsmobile1

The wallabies around here are fairly tame.
When we are cutting the kikui they will happily stand a few feet away & gorge on the fresh cut grass.
When water is hard to come by they will come down & drink while I am in the yard.
The Eastern Greys are a lot more weary of people so they will vanish the instant you so much as look at them .
MAgpies & currawongs will walk behind or even along side the push mower to feat on the grasshoppers & other insects dislodged by the mowing.
I have even had eagles swoop in front of the mower to take mice hopping out of my way.


#58

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nbpt100

bertsmobile1 said:
There is a funny idea that kangaroos hop down George St ( main street in Sydney ) and you can not put a food down outdoors without treading on a snake .
Our average snake bite rate is around 500 ( out of 35,000,000 population + ~ 10,000,000 tourists & guest workers )
From that 2 a year are generally fatal
Over 90% of snake bites are on the right forearm of men and were the results of the (He) man deciding to kill the snake with a shovel & missing .
Snakes are cowards , we are way too big for them to eat , even babies , so they see us as potentially eating them ( black fellas do eat them & they are good tucker ) .
The big loosers with snakes are dogs because even a well trained one will not leave a snake alone so that ends up being a contest as to which one is faster .
Because dogs have a lot less body weight than people they usually die regardless of weather they get immediate medical attention or not
For cats it is always fatal .
The USA apparently has around 10 snake bite deaths annually and is about 10 times our population so you have roughly twice the chance of a fatal snake bite down here as you have at home
OTOH we have around 2000 road deaths a year , about 15 tourist die of thirst in the desert ( mostly Europeans ) , prior to Covid Crockadiles knocked off around 3 people a year, mostly US & German tourists .
Poker machines ( slot machines to some ) account for more deaths than all the wildlife added together .
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Just curious, How does a Poker machine kill someone? Maybe that is a joke that is over my head?


#59

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bertsmobile1

nbpt100 said:
Just curious, How does a Poker machine kill someone? Maybe that is a joke that is over my head?
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No that is dead serious
Poker machines are designed to be addictive
People stand in front of them all day and gamble away every thing they own, their family owns & their company owns
Then they commit suicide rather than face the consequences of their addiction .
We skirt around it because if a suicide verdict is concluded then any life insurance they have not cashed in to gamble with would be null & void.
Now the numbers can not be verified by me but the anti-pokie lobby touts around 300 "accidential deaths " of heavily indebted pokie addicts a year .
The most common death is to run into a power pole or have a head on with a truck on the way home from the gambeling den.
Because of the fiscal imbalance down here between the feds who get most of the taxes & the states who bear most of the costs , states are always short of money. Poker machines are a State item and the revenue from them is in the order of 2 to 6 % of the annual budget so the States also have an addiction.
Thus unlike the USA every pub & club is full of poker machines .
And I am talking about every one of them so the small country bowing , cricket, soccer, baseball etc club, if they have a clubhouse with a bar in it will have poker machines .
Australia has less than 1% of the worlds population but we have 18% of the worlds poker machines.
Australia is the world leader in making poker machines as well I think we make about 80% of them .

The killer was legislation that allows machines to be linked together within a club and between a group of clubs.
By law every machine has to return 60% to 75% back to the player.
Now before this legislation was passed that meant addicts could only loose 25 % of what they fed into the machines in any one session .
With the linking they can loose 100% of their money and most do because the linked machines only pay the linked jackpot out some thing like once in 75,000,000,000,000 pulls per machine and if you multiply that by up to 10 machines in a few hundred venues, that is a lot of machines that never ever pay out the big win.
Now the return has to happen every financial year so usually some time around late June ( our FY is July to June ) the newspapers will run a story about some poor person getting a jackpot of anything up to $ 50,000,000 from a poker machine ,
I stopped going to my local football club back in 1990 when they massively expanded the gambleing.
The poker machines take up 30% of the floor space .
Then there is Keno ( a sort of bingo ) that is played everywhere in the club apart from the toilets .
The gambleing became so oppressive you could not avoid it .
They sold off all of the services so the food services are all independent businesses and the prices are on par with the local resterants so I no longer go there .


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nbpt100

bertsmobile1 said:
No that is dead serious
Poker machines are designed to be addictive
People stand in front of them all day and gamble away every thing they own, their family owns & their company owns
Then they commit suicide rather than face the consequences of their addiction .
We skirt around it because if a suicide verdict is concluded then any life insurance they have not cashed in to gamble with would be null & void.
Now the numbers can not be verified by me but the anti-pokie lobby touts around 300 "accidential deaths " of heavily indebted pokie addicts a year .
The most common death is to run into a power pole or have a head on with a truck on the way home from the gambeling den.
Because of the fiscal imbalance down here between the feds who get most of the taxes & the states who bear most of the costs , states are always short of money. Poker machines are a State item and the revenue from them is in the order of 2 to 6 % of the annual budget so the States also have an addiction.
Thus unlike the USA every pub & club is full of poker machines .
And I am talking about every one of them so the small country bowing , cricket, soccer, baseball etc club, if they have a clubhouse with a bar in it will have poker machines .
Australia has less than 1% of the worlds population but we have 18% of the worlds poker machines.
Australia is the world leader in making poker machines as well I think we make about 80% of them .

The killer was legislation that allows machines to be linked together within a club and between a group of clubs.
By law every machine has to return 60% to 75% back to the player.
Now before this legislation was passed that meant addicts could only loose 25 % of what they fed into the machines in any one session .
With the linking they can loose 100% of their money and most do because the linked machines only pay the linked jackpot out some thing like once in 75,000,000,000,000 pulls per machine and if you multiply that by up to 10 machines in a few hundred venues, that is a lot of machines that never ever pay out the big win.
Now the return has to happen every financial year so usually some time around late June ( our FY is July to June ) the newspapers will run a story about some poor person getting a jackpot of anything up to $ 50,000,000 from a poker machine ,
I stopped going to my local football club back in 1990 when they massively expanded the gambleing.
The poker machines take up 30% of the floor space .
Then there is Keno ( a sort of bingo ) that is played everywhere in the club apart from the toilets .
The gambleing became so oppressive you could not avoid it .
They sold off all of the services so the food services are all independent businesses and the prices are on par with the local resterants so I no longer go there .
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That was eye opening. I wish all the best with a sensible solution. In the States gun dealths are a much more serious problem.


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bertsmobile1

nbpt100 said:
That was eye opening. I wish all the best with a sensible solution. In the States gun dealths are a much more serious problem.
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Every country is plagued by some sort of problems caused by the manipulation of culture to the financial benefit of a few .
I regularly say Australians are the most stupid people on earth with the laziest politicans on the planet ( don't tell Joed that ) and pokie leglislation is the perfect example of that .
We are blessed to be born in the land of plenty ( that we stole from the black fellas ) and that has made us very lazy .


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McB

McB

Mattmotors said:
Please tell me how you keep mice out of your equipment. This is my Simplicity SS922 . No wonder why it was surging.View attachment 59363
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In our motorhome we use dryer sheets or moth balls.


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Gord Baker

Excellent results with Ultrasonic Rodent devices if you park inside. Signal goes in straight lines outward.. I jamb packed chicken wire in openings of other equipment where possible.


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Gord Baker

bertsmobile1 said:
Every country is plagued by some sort of problems caused by the manipulation of culture to the financial benefit of a few .
I regularly say Australians are the most stupid people on earth with the laziest politicans on the planet ( don't tell Joed that ) and pokie leglislation is the perfect example of that .
We are blessed to be born in the land of plenty ( that we stole from the black fellas ) and that has made us very lazy .
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I think you need a serious attitude adjustment.


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rar4228

McB said:
In our motorhome we use dryer sheets or moth balls.
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I buy the small bags of moth balls and put them on my lawn equipment, around the engine, wires etc. This works well for me.


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oldlawnguy

oldlawnguy

rar4228 said:
I buy the small bags of moth balls and put them on my lawn equipment, around the engine, wires etc. This works well for me.
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I put Tomcat green mouse blocks on walls tops and floor bottoms inside of shed. Another lesson I leaned the hard way, if you are in cold weather climate and storing for the winter-- on your last use for the season WAIT before putting in the shed. I make sure I leave the rider mower in the driveway with hood open so the engine is nice and cold before putting in the shed.

If the weather is cold and you put a nice warm engine in a closed shed you are inviting the mice to take up residence in your blower housing.


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Gunn308

bertsmobile1 said:
HAve not seen them down here yet
My problem is field mice are very small and thus very light so did not trip any spring loaded trap no matter how far i ground the trigger back to the point they would spring if the front door closed hard.
I found the tip over traps worked a lot better and they get used inside the office
The crusts get threaded onto some very fine cotton so they can be positioned a long way up the counter balance tube thus a 20 gram mouse will trip the trap.
But the shed cat down stairs works a lot better as nothing gets to go upstairs overnight
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Tie a piece of string onto the trigger smeared with bait of choice. They can clean a bait pan and not set it off but when they pull on the string it gets em every time


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RayMcD

bucket traps work great for small mice, keep them set in my garage and storage building. Easy to make or purchase. Sunflower and peanut butter makes good bait. Just google mouse bucket trap for many examples... happy hunting, r

Also work well for Chipmunks but our cats are working on these little hole digging suckers...


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EatPreyMow

EatPreyMow

Ultrasonic devices plugged into outlets in my garge seem to have some effect. Bucket traps work well but I don't like to see mice drowned to death and would rather an instant kill like the conventional mouse traps do. Peppermint oil in strategic locations on equipment deters them well. Most importantly, keep as much food out of the garage as possible including bird and grass seed.

In the summer I have a snake that likes to dine in my garage. There's a little hole in the rubber seal on the bottom of a garage door where he slithers in but I think after he swallows a mouse he has to wait until he can get back out.


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