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Hi everybody,

Total newb here, looking for help. Thanks in advance.

My Dana/Spicer 4360 105 5spd is shifting stiff. It was shifting fine when I parked it last fall. Mowed for the first time a couple days ago, now it's super stiff putting in various gears. Disconnected linkage, linkage is fine. Before I pull the transaxle and pull the cases apart I thought I might get on here in case all of you have some sage advice. It's a sealed unit, but is it rebuildable? Again, thanks in advance.

Bobbio

The unit is rebuildable, but I would start by spraying some penetrating oil on the shift input shaft to the tranny, and move it back and forth to see if it frees up. Some of those trannys with the shift shaft on the top will collect moisture and rust.

Thanks, that makes sense, could very well be what's going on. I hit it with PB Blaster before I posted last night, I hope that's all it is. Will check to see if it loosened up. From my under standing, it's just grease in that unit, and not fluid of any kind?

JD do not recommend opening this box and they are a really good unit.
Jack up the back wheels and see if the operation is easier without wheels on the ground.
Try both engine running & engine off.
Should shift easier with engine running.
As previously posted most likely rust / rats / grime build up blocking the actions of the shift linkages.
Some times even the brake can rust up and that makes it hard to shift.

The only thing that could cause the box to deteriorate over winter is a blown seal allowing the oil to drain out and the box to rust but that is a real long shot and should be blinding obvious.

As IL said it is repairable, I've done it many times. If lubricating it does not solve your problem and you decide to rebuild it, these two sites may be of help.

https://www.dixiesales.com/ipl/126/4360-105.pdf

http://www.mymowerparts.com/pdf/Tec...FFERENTIALS-SERVICE--REPAIR-MANUAL-691218.pdf

I know that you have a Dana and the manual is for Peerless. They are so close to identical that once you identify which your's is similiar to, it will help you. Three things I would warn you about. One, internal parts are extremely sharp, be very careful when handling. Two, be very observant how you disassemble each piece, even flipping some parts 180 degrees over will affect the outcome. Three, instead of using grease on reassembly I always recommend and use Bentinite sold through a Tecumseh dealer.

Bobbio said:

Hi everybody, Total newb here, looking for help. Thanks in advance. My Dana/Spicer 4360 105 5spd is shifting stiff. It was shifting fine when I parked it last fall. Mowed for the first time a couple days ago, now it's super stiff putting in various gears. Disconnected linkage, linkage is fine. Before I pull the transaxle and pull the cases apart I thought I might get on here in case all of you have some sage advice. It's a sealed unit, but is it rebuildable? Again, thanks in advance. Bobbio

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you don't seem like a newb to me

Thanks for the help, guys. Shifting loosened up considerably by dousing the arm with PB Blaster. No rebuild necessary! It's weird to me that there's no fluid in that unit, just grease. I wonder if drilling, tapping, installing a plug and putting oil in it might be a good idea. Then again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! Thanks again!

Not a good idea. These trannies were design to use grease, the seals will start leaking very soon if you try.

Best leave it alone. Some of those trannys use bentenite grease which is clay based, and it doesn't play well with needle type bearings.

Looking at buying this.

Starts and runs good.

Drives about 20 feet then stops. Any idea what would cause this?

First of all welcome.
Second please follow protocol and start a new thread labeled "F525 stops after 20' " or something similar.
This allows future searches to find information about F 525's easily and stop a lot of confusion.

Now a little more information.
If you can find it the mower model & serial number will allow people to verify their reply rather than relying upon memory
Same for the engine.
Now
What stops ?
Engine ?
Tranny ?

First thing I would have started a new thread if it would have let me. As I have been here for years.

All I have is the pic of the unit.
It runs fine just stops moving after 20 feet so I have been told.

The model number really does not matter.
Was just looking for some opinions of why a hydro drive would work for a few feet then stop.
I was thinking just a clogged filter. But wanted to know what others thought.
Guy only wants $150 for it.

Cars, those are very solid units, but you might want to read this forum before pulling the trigger. Your $150 may make you look like a Solomon or a Fish. Personally I would not take a chance, think it might become an anchor.

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Rivets said:

Cars, those are very solid units, but you might want to read this forum before pulling the trigger. Your $150 may make you look like a Solomon or a Fish. Personally I would not take a chance, think it might become an anchor. John Deere F525 Issues - MyTractorForum.com - The Friendliest Tractor Forum and Best Place for Tractor Information

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Thank you for the link.
Think I will pass on this one.

Not a JD fan anyways. Was thinking maybe I could make money off it.

Carscw said:

Thank you for the link.
Think I will pass on this one.

Not a JD fan anyways. Was thinking maybe I could make money off it.

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If youhave the space, time & patience you should be ablt to turn it into $500 to $ 600 simply by breaking it down.
It just looks ugly sitting in the yard for a long time.