John Deere 116 smoking stator

tbetts257

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I think Chance123 nailed it. Does this unit have a remote voltage regulator? It would be behind the instrument panel, probably mounted on the metal chassis. Looks like an aluminum heat sink. I'm not sure, but the diode may be part of that unit or near it (you may find it's called a "regulator/rectifier" which would indicate that the diode is internal - it is what rectifies the current, converting it from AC to DC). This might warrant involvement of a dealer diagnostic effort - if that's what is happening, you can fry stuff unexpectedly. You might hear that a bunch of stuff has to be replaced, not repaired *sigh* but let the dollars guide you on that, as your time is valuable too.

I have a John Deere GT242 that I repowered with a Briggs engine - and tangling with what should have been simple wiring issues humbled me in short order. At one point I thought everything was working fine, and then the computer card on the ignition switch burned up and I ended up having to rewire the whole thing from scratch. Stuff like that is hard to put up with at 11PM when its raining... just sayin.

By the way, consider that the fuel pump may be vacuum powered and not electrical. It would be a square unit about two inches across mounted somewhere on the side of the motor, fed (of course) by the fuel line. That's the most common configuration - my old Kawasaki single cyl. motor had that and my new Briggs v-twin replacement has the same thing. What you may have thought was a fuel pump wire may be instead a fuel solenoid wire - if so it would go directly to the carburetor. The fuel solenoid is a go/no go switch with a spring loaded plunger that interrupts the fuel flow. The idea is that while current is present, an electromagnet holds back the solenoid plunger and fuel can pass through the line to the carb. If current stops ( as when the engine is shut off) the plunger is no longer held back by the electromagnet and being spring loaded, extends like a finger into the fuel line, blocking fuel. Nice safety feature, and was originally designed (by Deere, I think) to keep fuel from seeping into the cylinder head when the unit was off - it was initially an anti-backfire device.

As a temporary measure, you could install a shutoff switch on one of the battery terminals (Tractor supply - about ten bucks) that disconnects the battery whenever the tractor is off. Might want to pick up a trickle charger though.

The video has supported my idea that the electric fuel pump is not hooked up. There are two fuel pumps, one electric, one vaccuum. Whoever owned this mower before decided to disconnect the electric pump. This is not the problem whatsoever. I was just trying to trace wires and noticed someone hacked up my wiring.

I know that I can install a shutoff switch and everything, but I would like to fix it correctly so I don't have to haul my battery charger around. I'm sure you understand this. I haven't seen a voltage regulator on this mower, but I will look tonight. I'm wondering if I were to just install a diode inline with the stator if that would solve my problems. Also, I don't understand how this could just happen randomly. Seems strange.
 

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I could not find a voltage regulator. I looked at the wiring diagram you sent me yesterday, and it shows an inline diode and a diode module. I could not find either. I did completely trace the stator wire, and no diode is present.

Just to get by, I installed a male/female terminal connectors inline with the stator, and I will just diconnect the stator when the mower is not running.

Any other thoughts?
 

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I suppose it could be unregulated. Do you have lights? If unregulated you'd probably see brighter lights with higher rpms.

Here's a Briggs troubleshooting flow chart. I also sent you a PM with some more resources at other sites.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6NaqjIxWV1yOWJubmtDTC1tak0/edit

This is exactly what I was looking for! It turns out that the connector that I thought was burned up, was actually the diode. It was melted so bad I couldn't tell. Now I just need to find that diode and I SHOULD be set. Thanks! :wink:
 
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