Is your John Deere worth it?

mystreba

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Pushing my yard will be a test of my will power and stamina. I should only take me all summer to get caught up and the yard he same length.:laughing:

A friend of mine knew the owner of the Kubota Dealership and asked if I could place the mower for sale on his lot. He was willing and sold it within 2 weeks. I was ready to put it out of it's misery so am glad it sold.

I was fortunate that a friend of mine looked at the JD L120 which I have not been able to start this season and said it was the fuel pump and is going to fix it for me tomorrow. I should be able to mow with it tomorrow.

I really need to by a new mower but I can't committ myself to buying a mower. Does anyone have any suggestions? Any help would be appreciated. I am looking at the JD 320, JD 500, Husqvarna and cub cadet. The John Deere are at a local dealer and run $4000 to $5000 respectively. The Husqvarna is $3000. Help!

You and I are in the same boat. I'm waffling on what to get - wavering between the X320 and the D170. But from my experience (and maybe someone can correct me here), stay away from the Husq. You've got too much work for that machine.

I was looking at used machines, but your story makes me realize that I need to buy new!
 

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Pushing my yard will be a test of my will power and stamina. I should only take me all summer to get caught up and the yard he same length.:laughing:

A friend of mine knew the owner of the Kubota Dealership and asked if I could place the mower for sale on his lot. He was willing and sold it within 2 weeks. I was ready to put it out of it's misery so am glad it sold.

I was fortunate that a friend of mine looked at the JD L120 which I have not been able to start this season and said it was the fuel pump and is going to fix it for me tomorrow. I should be able to mow with it tomorrow.

I really need to by a new mower but I can't committ myself to buying a mower. Does anyone have any suggestions? Any help would be appreciated. I am looking at the JD 320, JD 500, Husqvarna and cub cadet. The John Deere are at a local dealer and run $4000 to $5000 respectively. The Husqvarna is $3000. Help![/QUOTE]


I didn't think i wrote my reply in yin pin,did i ? :confused2:
My reply to your first one i think it was/is sound advice:wink:

But if you're h3ll bend on spending an other 5 grand or more on a new mower a 1/4 the quality of the older ones ,go ahead,it's your money!...:tongue:
 

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Only thing i can say is to find a seventies build JD and fix it up.
These things are build like a tank.
I got a 72 JD 112 i've mowed my ROUGH 3 acre lawn( average time spend to mow it 1 1/2 hr) with for the last 15 years with very few repairs.
Heck,it was already 26 years old when i bought it :eek: paid 50 bux for it.:wink:
I just bought a second 112 2 years youner as spare,has 3 attachments for $500.
I can do a looooot of fixing before i hit $8000.

The new stuff is just not up to par anymore,not any brand for any price :thumbdown:

Thanks for the advice. Any suggestions on what to look for and what to avoid? As a mechanic I am pretty limited and would not know how to do anything but change a battery and the oil. I don't know what hp to look for and other things that make a mower worth having. Help.:smile:
 

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Thanks for the advice. Any suggestions on what to look for and what to avoid? As a mechanic I am pretty limited and would not know how to do anything but change a battery and the oil. I don't know what hp to look for and other things that make a mower worth having. Help.:smile:
Oh boy,if you are not mechanicly inclined at all,your choices are fairly limited what ever you buy, the dealers are gonna bleed you dry
i got only experience with the JD 112 which has a 12 HP single cilinder kohler.It has plenty power for a mower and is considdered the best of the kolhlers.There are others equally good though.
Considder looking in this site
Weekend Freedom Machines

It deals strictly with Jd Lawn tractors ,lots of restores and users there,lots of knowledge about the older ones.And there are good tractors for sale as well for a fraction of the new price.

Hope this helps
 

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Oh boy,if you are not mechanicly inclined at all,your choices are fairly limited what ever you buy, the dealers are gonna bleed you dry
i got only experience with the JD 112 which has a 12 HP single cilinder kohler.It has plenty power for a mower and is considdered the best of the kolhlers.There are others equally good though.
Considder looking in this site
Weekend Freedom Machines

It deals strictly with Jd Lawn tractors ,lots of restores and users there,lots of knowledge about the older ones.And there are good tractors for sale as well for a fraction of the new price.

Hope this helps


Thanks! I will check out the website. One of the reasons I haven't bought yet is I am worried about being bled dry by the dealers or buying one from the box stores and it not working. I have almost come to the thought process of---If I buy from a box store and it breaks in 2-3 years then I can buy another from the box store and still not have spent what the dealers want. I am sooo confused!
 

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Thanks! I will check out the website. One of the reasons I haven't bought yet is I am worried about being bled dry by the dealers or buying one from the box stores and it not working. I have almost come to the thought process of---If I buy from a box store and it breaks in 2-3 years then I can buy another from the box store and still not have spent what the dealers want. I am sooo confused!

Trust me, with the amount of property you have, a box-store rider won't work. If you get distracted or it rains for an extended period and your grass gets over 5", you'll be stopping after every pass to clear a clogged deck while giving French lessons to all the kids in the neighborhood.
 

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In my limited experience, no, it was not worth purchasing a John Deere.

In 2004 I bought a new LT180 from Ritchie Tractor in Maryville, TN for $3500. Ritchie is the local JD dealer. The unit I purchased was not one sold by the big box stores.

I used the LT180 only for cutting my yard, which covers about 1/2 acre. Each season I log about 10 hours on the LT180. At the end of the 2008 season (5th season with this mower), it began to go slower, especially on an incline. At this point, I had about 52 hours on the machine. When I started cutting in the spring of 2009, it got worse very quickly, to the point were I could only cut about 300 sq ft of level ground before it would go no further.

I took it back to Ritchie Tracker where I purchased it. They confirmed that a new transmission was required. (It should be noted that all scheduled maintenance has been performed even more often than required and at this time there were only 60 hours on the LT180.) Ritchie told me the charge to replace the transmission would be over $900. Obviously, I was less than happy considering that there were less than 60 hours on my LT180 and the dealer made no offer to offset the full cost. They said I could try to contact John Deere corp for support. Yet when I asked for the contact info, they would not provide it. (I half way expected them to say "I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.") After pointing out the absurdity of this, another person at Ritchie agreed to contact the JD rep and provide them with my contact info. Over the next week, I had to make a couple of more follow up calls to the dealer before the JD rep called me back. After much discussion, they agreed to provide a credit of $300 toward cost of a new tranny, as long as it was done at that JD dealer. So the net cost to me was about $600.

My LT180 has a 48" deck and hydrostatic tranny and cost $3500. My neighbor bought a mower of a different brand with 48" deck and hydrostatic tranny at a cost of $1500. He has had no issues, uses his much more than I use mine, and let me borrow his for the month mine was at the dealer getting the tranny replaced. In hind sight, I made a large mistake buying this Deere.

After much investigation following my initial problems, I found that the Tuff Torq 46 tranny used in the LT, and other lines was not up to the task. It could be that other models without the TT46, may be fine. However, the totally unacceptable experience with Deere precludes me from ever taking a chance with them again. My advice to those who want a Deere is not to buy one with the Tuff Torq 46 tranny or from a dealer where you cannot get good references from someone who has experienced an adverse situation. After all, everyone's nice until there is a problem.

Good luck
 

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... They said I could try to contact John Deere corp for support. Yet when I asked for the contact info, they would not provide it. ...

This is not a good position for any retail outlet to take..
Anytime you purchase equipment you should be able to contact someone up stream of the local dealer...

Bad experiences will happen from time to time, If handled 'fairly' it can be a plus for a manufacturer and an outlet dealership...
60 hours is rather poor performance... it equates to OVER $58 per hour...not counting down time costs ...
O can see why you are less than enthusiastic... :smile:KennyV
 

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Hey man, FYI on your tranny, all you had to do was drain the oil, bleed the air, and add a mixture of AMSOIL Stabilizer and AMSOIL Synthetic 30 Weight oil. I had the exact same problem, same transmission and everything, the dealer said the same thing to me, I looked at it did that and it works perfect, that was 10 years ago, ,still going strong. You were taken advantage of bud.
In my limited experience, no, it was not worth purchasing a John Deere.




In 2004 I bought a new LT180 from Ritchie Tractor in Maryville, TN for $3500. Ritchie is the local JD dealer. The unit I purchased was not one sold by the big box stores.

I used the LT180 only for cutting my yard, which covers about 1/2 acre. Each season I log about 10 hours on the LT180. At the end of the 2008 season (5th season with this mower), it began to go slower, especially on an incline. At this point, I had about 52 hours on the machine. When I started cutting in the spring of 2009, it got worse very quickly, to the point were I could only cut about 300 sq ft of level ground before it would go no further.

I took it back to Ritchie Tracker where I purchased it. They confirmed that a new transmission was required. (It should be noted that all scheduled maintenance has been performed even more often than required and at this time there were only 60 hours on the LT180.) Ritchie told me the charge to replace the transmission would be over $900. Obviously, I was less than happy considering that there were less than 60 hours on my LT180 and the dealer made no offer to offset the full cost. They said I could try to contact John Deere corp for support. Yet when I asked for the contact info, they would not provide it. (I half way expected them to say "I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.") After pointing out the absurdity of this, another person at Ritchie agreed to contact the JD rep and provide them with my contact info. Over the next week, I had to make a couple of more follow up calls to the dealer before the JD rep called me back. After much discussion, they agreed to provide a credit of $300 toward cost of a new tranny, as long as it was done at that JD dealer. So the net cost to me was about $600.

My LT180 has a 48" deck and hydrostatic tranny and cost $3500. My neighbor bought a mower of a different brand with 48" deck and hydrostatic tranny at a cost of $1500. He has had no issues, uses his much more than I use mine, and let me borrow his for the month mine was at the dealer getting the tranny replaced. In hind sight, I made a large mistake buying this Deere.

After much investigation following my initial problems, I found that the Tuff Torq 46 tranny used in the LT, and other lines was not up to the task. It could be that other models without the TT46, may be fine. However, the totally unacceptable experience with Deere precludes me from ever taking a chance with them again. My advice to those who want a Deere is not to buy one with the Tuff Torq 46 tranny or from a dealer where you cannot get good references from someone who has experienced an adverse situation. After all, everyone's nice until there is a problem.

Good luck
 

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Hey man, FYI on your tranny, all you had to do was drain the oil, bleed the air, and add a mixture of AMSOIL Stabilizer and AMSOIL Synthetic 30 Weight oil. I had the exact same problem, same transmission and everything, the dealer said the same thing to me, I looked at it did that and it works perfect, that was 10 years ago, ,still going strong. You were taken advantage of bud.

Interesting fix, want to inform us exactly WHAT this procedure does to remedy the transmission problem?

"The dealer said the same thing to me...." which was? Open to interpretation, did the dealer tell you about the fix? Or what did the dealer say?

If it wasn't the dealer, who told you about the fix? Your post apparently means well but is somewhat garbled, and lacking details.
 
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