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Insurance!!

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BHLC

BHLC

The necessary evil...called...Insurance...
Just renewed/reworked our insurance for the trucks, equipment and general liability, $3200 for the year... Ouch! Ohh well gotta have it.


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LoCo86

The necessary evil...called...Insurance... Just renewed/reworked our insurance for the trucks, equipment and general liability, $3200 for the year... Ouch! Ohh well gotta have it.

The premiums do hurt the wallet. On the other hand paying hundreds of thousands of dollars cause a object thrown from the mower put someone's eye out makes it worth it. Those type of accidents can severely hurt or ruin a business. Like you say it's a necessity.


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mowerman05

So many operate without it, makes you wonder how they sleep. They must have the mentality that it can't happen to them.


#4

Carscw

Carscw

Insurance is a must have.
Had a guy claim that I hit a rock and broke his car window. I made him take me to court. His car was in a few pics we took of the yard. Looked at my pics on that yard back 4 months and the window was broke in everyone.

Why people do not have insurance and LLC I will never understand


#5

BHLC

BHLC

There are a lot of so called "professionals" around here that run without it, or not enough of it. We need coverage for mowing activities and snow removal. Also each of my big tickets items are covered against almost anything for complete replacement value. I looked at adding E&O coverage but it was ridiculous!


#6

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LoCo86

There are a lot of so called "professionals" around here that run without it, or not enough of it. We need coverage for mowing activities and snow removal. Also each of my big tickets items are covered against almost anything for complete replacement value. I looked at adding E&O coverage but it was ridiculous!

To me you can never have enough insurance, but there has to be a line drawn where enough is enough. And I think that E&O insurance would be a little overboard for someone who does residential clients only. However, if you have large commercial accounts I can see how it would be needed. For the most part anything done in this business can be fixed ( at a cost to the contractor of course). It's not like a surgeon who took the wrong kidney out.


#7

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zliss4398

The necessary evil...called...Insurance...
Just renewed/reworked our insurance for the trucks, equipment and general liability, $3200 for the year... Ouch! Ohh well gotta have it.


Hello,
I am a 19yr old kid that is starting to cut lawns. This is my second season and with that I generated a lot of new lawns over the winter. Im currently looking into small business insurance quotes. If there is anything you would recommend or ant certain insurance company to use would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Zach


#8

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sidemouse

Some people need insurance, some people don't.

Insurance is a must have.
Had a guy claim that I hit a rock and broke his car window. I made him take me to court.

I had a potential customer ask me if I had insurance, I said it's not required.
The customer's answer: The hell it ain't.
Not going to argue with that.


#9

stevesyardcare

stevesyardcare

As much as we hate paying for insurance, it has to be done. Its pretty much our safety blanket...


#10

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bertsmobile1

Some people need insurance, some people don't.



I had a potential customer ask me if I had insurance, I said it's not required.
The customer's answer: The hell it ain't.
Not going to argue with that.

Some people think playing Russian Roulette is a good idea to.
If you are mowing you need insurance, both for yourself and any damage done to anyone/thing else.
The simplist thing, like a trimmer falling off the trailer & being struck by a following car that swerves and causes a mulit vehicle smash can go into the millions.
Some one yelling at yo, so you turn your head then then run over your own foot can have you in hospital for a long time, sooo easy to happen.


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bertsmobile1

The difference is I've had that happen too but I didn't invite the guy to make a court case over it.
If you're out looking for a fight chances are you will find one.
Insurance agents love hearing about these things.

I also don't face the street with the discharge chute as I see many do.



Same thing applies here:
If you go out looking for an accident, chances are higher you will find one.
Insurance agents love hearing these stories.



I am guessing you told your insurance agent that "object thrown from the mower put someone's eye out" story at least once.
Yes, making it clear that you are thinking the worst will raise your premium.



For myself instead of a standard "million dollars" I use what's called a 300.500.600 policy.
Can't recall the company right now, I think it's either Hiscox or Progressive.
I pay $341 a year, however I don't invite folks to take me to court and I don't go around confabulating worst case scenarios.
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I don't really get what you are trying to get at
Perhaps things are different over there but down here you buy a policy and the policies are fairly well standard and based upon your turnover.
On the grounds the more money you make the more work you do the greater the risk.
The only real variations come from your claims history and your claims threshold.
So I had a $ 60,000,000 policy ( public liability property & personal injury ) with a $ 5,000 threshold per claim.
That cost me $ 1300 / pa
Drop the threshold down to the standard $ 500 and that blows out to $ 3,800 / pa
On top of that I had a "directors & public officers" policy for $ 250 / pa.
That stops any one who was claiming more than $ 60,000,000 sueing me personally because I did not have enough cover.
As for dreaming up unlikely events it does not matter , if something falls off my truck I am covered.
One of my customers had a rubber boot ( gum boot ) fall off the back of his truck which caused over $ 1,000,000 in claims because the driver behind swerved & side swiped a fuel tanker which then rolled over.
The following driver originally got sued but a driver further back had a dash cam which showed the boot flying off the truck so the following drivers insurance company then sued my customer to recover costs.
The vehicle damage was not much but the clean up bill for the spilled oil was massive.
Same story with workers compensation.
That is worked out by how much I paid my workers the previous year and the only variations are for previous bad claim history and the threshold which in my case was 21 days.
medical expenses start from day 1 but wages start from day 22 that knocked down the policy from $ 1800 to $ 425.
Down here , an ambulance to the nearest hospital will set you back $ 1,000 min.

As for not discharging towards the road, do you turn off when turning the mower round ?
or drive backwards when mowing a grasses side walk ?
Do you erect screens when using a line trimmer ?
None of your customers have any windows in their houses ?
And lets not forget the little old lady who slips on the wet grass on the sidewalk before you have had a chance to clean it off.


Anyway getting back to ZAC.
Check with all the insurers.
Down here you get big discounts if you take some of the risk yourself.
This is because most claims are for small amounts , broken windows, stained clothing etc etc, less than $ 1,000.
So if you can keep a couple of grand in the bank see if a higher claims threshold will drop the policy price.
When Workers compensation for self employed people became compulsory down here the price of the policies quadrupled after the first couple of years because operators realised they could buy a $ 1200 /pa policy. then "hurt themselves" in the off season, find a doctor to write them a 4 -8 week certificate then take a nice long holiday and claim $ 4000+ from their insurance.


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