I would like to talk Propane

[Boudreaux]

In my research for "MY ULTIMATE ZTR"..... Propane has crossed my mind (slightly). BUT I have to wonder.

"HOW DO YOU OPERATE WITH PROPANE FUEL".

TO begin with, there's the bottle. For those that know?

1) How to you refuel..? Do you take the bottle off, and go to the Propane dealer, or do you load up and trailer the whole unit to refill the bottle. (troublesome)

2) Do you buy an extra bottle and alway have a full bottle on hand..? (Costly)

3) Does that bottle expire in 12 years like BBQ Propane bottles...? (For people like me that keep things forever.)

4)How many hours of cutting can one expect on a bottle of propane....?



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[reynoldston]

The only advantage I can see about propane is that it is a lot cleaner burning. Other then that unless you operate a propane dealership I can't see any advantages. It can't be any cheaper then gas. Then how many gas stations are around where you live compared to propane dealers. Then just think if you need fuel on a holiday where do you find a open propane dealer compared to a open gas station. We are still in a world that operates lawn mowers on gasoline. But I say if your heart is set on propane try it, but I will keep using gasoline myself.

 

[Boudreaux]

Oh believe me, my heart isn't set on propane. I'm just trying to understand the concept of propane.

In my mind, the only way one could operate with propane would be to have an extra tank available, and stay on top of the fuel level.


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[reynoldston]

Oh believe me, my heart isn't set on propane. I'm just trying to understand the concept of propane.

In my mind, the only way one could operate with propane would be to have an extra tank available, and stay on top of the fuel level.


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Like I said its a lot cleaner. When you go to change the oil it will look just as clean as the day you put it in. Its been a long time ago for me but I have worked on a truck that ran on it. It just seems that in the cold weather it had problems starting. I also have a friend that bought a pickup that ran on it and he changed it back to gasoline. I have also been in warehouses where they ran their fork trucks in side the building with it so I will guess it isn't as poisonous as gasoline. I don't know if it would be any cheaper to use over gas. I also know that they did make some farm tractors that ran on propane but have never seen one myself. You can bet that if propane was better then gasoline it would be a lot more popular then it is now.

 

[afoulk]

It does burn cleaner, leading to a cleaner engine internally. You must be careful and keep up with maintnance however. Propane will create more acids to build up in the oil, and if run past the recommended oil change interval, the acids will begin to attack the bearings.

 

[Terry CleanFuel]

It does burn cleaner, leading to a cleaner engine internally. You must be careful and keep up with maintnance however. Propane will create more acids to build up in the oil, and if run past the recommended oil change interval, the acids will begin to attack the bearings.

I'm sorry folks but this is just plain wrong. What possible acids could propane contain? Where did you hear this? Propane is 80% cleaner burning than gasoline. That's a fact. Plus propane contains no ethanol.

I've been doing this for over 35 years and that's the first time I've heard this.

Go here: MOWER INCENTIVE

In truth you can extend your service intervals x 3. After your warranty expires of course...

 

[briggs]

Here is my own thoughts.. Yes it burns cleaner but not very easy to come by unless u have a station close that sells it.Here in Canada we had them on cabs in the 8os and early 90s Yes the tank expires it was costing more to run them then gas ones (same with the cop cars)it cost to much to maintain when they do brake ..Not just anyone can work on Them.. Here u need a ticket to do so if u get caught messing with it and someone blows up your in trouble ..They say gasoline is highly explosive yes it is if u don't have a vent ETC try propane if think it reacts the same lol not a chance I have seen one go and it was not cool at all and they fellow that was working on it is no longer here to tell u what happened good thing I was outside working on another car or I would have met the marker that day also,, At least with gas u have a chance to get away if it dose ignite propane say good night u don't get a second chance Its good for cooking and heat leave it at that ..I have no desire to strap my backside to a bomb lol:confused2:

 

[Terry CleanFuel]

Here is my own thoughts.. Yes it burns cleaner but not very easy to come by unless u have a station close that sells it.Here in Canada we had them on cabs in the 8os and early 90s Yes the tank expires it was costing more to run them then gas ones (same with the cop cars)it cost to much to maintain when they do brake ..Not just anyone can work on Them.. Here u need a ticket to do so if u get caught messing with it and someone blows up your in trouble ..They say gasoline is highly explosive yes it is if u don't have a vent ETC try propane if think it reacts the same lol not a chance I have seen one go and it was not cool at all and they fellow that was working on it is no longer here to tell u what happened good thing I was outside working on another car or I would have met the marker that day also,, At least with gas u have a chance to get away if it dose ignite propane say good night u don't get a second chance Its good for cooking and heat leave it at that ..I have no desire to strip my backside to a bomb lol:confused2:

You say you've "seen one go". One what?

Globally how many gasoline engines combust vs propane? Bear in mind that propane fuels one of three autos in Europe.

You also state that you "don't get a second chance". How many folks were killed by propane in the last ten years versus gasoline? In my 35+ years in the industry I can remember five killed that were connected to propane as a motorfuel. All five were operator errors. The City of Mercer Island converted their Police vehicles because of comparative ballistic tests vs gasoline.

IT IS A FACT that propane containers and product are much safer than gasoline for use as a motorfuel.

Propane Safety Tips - Exceptional Energy

No, propane does not react the same as gasoline. It has a MUCH LOWER FLAMABILITY LIMIT. This means it is much less likely to combust.

I can't change what we see in movies. FWIW I don't believe in vampires or zombies either...

 

[Terry CleanFuel]

Here are the facts about propane as a motorfuel:

Like gasoline LPG is flammable, but has a much narrower range of flammability. LPG has a much higher ignition temperature of 920-1020 degrees vs. 80-300 degrees for gasoline. LPG will only burn with an air-fuel ratio of between 2.2% and 9.6% and will rapidly dissipate beyond its flammability range in the open atmosphere, making ignition unlikely. LPG tanks are tested to a minimum 4 times normal operating pressures and are 20 times more puncture resistant than gasoline tanks.

I don't know what else I can tell you other than the facts don't support your fear of "a bomb strapped to your behind". My wife is deathly afraid of spiders but if she'd learn about them she wouldn't be so afraid. Personally, spiders don't bother me. I've been bitten seven times by widows and survived. No, it wasn't pleasant, but I turned out just f,f,f,f,f,fine...:confused2:

 

[briggs]

You say you've "seen one go". One what?

Globally how many gasoline engines combust vs propane? Bear in mind that propane fuels one of three autos in Europe.

You also state that you "don't get a second chance". How many folks were killed by propane in the last ten years versus gasoline? In my 35+ years in the industry I can remember five killed that were connected to propane as a motorfuel. All five were operator errors. The City of Mercer Island converted their Police vehicles because of comparative ballistic tests vs gasoline.

IT IS A FACT that propane containers and product are much safer than gasoline for use as a motorfuel.

Propane Safety Tips - Exceptional Energy

No, propane does not react the same as gasoline. It has a MUCH LOWER FLAMABILITY LIMIT. This means it is much less likely to combust.

I can't change what we see in movies. FWIW I don't believe in vampires or zombies either...

Really lmao well u tell that to the fellow that I watched get his *** blown out the door in peace's not something I will ever forget He was working on a cop car static charge off his sweat shirt ignited the vapour in the air not sure what he had been doing I was outside working on another car doing some wiring all I know is he ended up on the ground outside the shop dead there was no big bang just one heck of a fire ball ...Don't care how long u worked on them ..Its a fact they did away with it here because it cost to much to maintain ..Cop cars and cabs went gas costs less for them to run its all about budget . ..Most fleet trucks went Diesel ..Not enough places carried propane.plus people want stuff they can work on not stuff they have to send in to be fixed by a cert dealer plus they will make u cert the machine every couple of years ....And yes I have my ticket for propane and I also have the ticket for safe handling of it I know how it works u don't have to tell me it will also change if its a hot day cold day /confined space open space etc its unpredictable and not for the average person to play with ...Say what u will the bottom line is its not for the average Joe what good is it if u cant work on it yourself ...Or have access to the fuel u need...Its good for heat and cooking that's it