Husqvarna M-ZT 52" vs Kubota Kammander ZG127 ?

Duckman

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Hay Grady,

First of I love the mower...I'm glad I got it.

I got he the Kohler 27hp and 54" deck. To me it has plenty of power, even at full speed it makes one heck of a cut. I do suggest the upgraded seat...it's nice.

HOWEVER...

I just received another letter in the mail for another safety recall (actually it's the third recall) now. This one is the worst, saying to park my mower, don't use it and we don't have the parts to fix it AND HAVE NO DATE WHEN THEY WILL. They would even pay up to 150.00 to have my lawn done.

THAT I AM NOT PLEASED WITH.

I would still consider it just made sure the updates are done.

Mike
 

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Mike, are they saying what the recall is for?
 

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Grady,

Here's what the letter said dated 22APR13

Under some conditions the fuel tank develops a leak by HST belt or fan area Has something to do with that darn CARB crap and it's pressure control valve.

I'm still going to mow my lawn one more time....this is a pain for me as I do not have a trailer. Last time I had the last two done at the same time and flipped my friend a 20 to bowwow his trailer...
 

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Grady,

Here's what the letter said dated 22APR13

Under some conditions the fuel tank develops a leak by HST belt or fan area Has something to do with that darn CARB crap and it's pressure control valve.

I'm still going to mow my lawn one more time....this is a pain for me as I do not have a trailer. Last time I had the last two done at the same time and flipped my friend a 20 to bowwow his trailer...

Duckman/Grady1,
I have since learned that the Kubota Kommander has a "belly gas tank", instead of it being on each side like most ZTR's. That's a REAL turn-off for me and sounds like the recall is related and they will continue to have gas tank related problems. I'll bet the second year model changes that design!!!!
 

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Duckman/Grady1,
I have since learned that the Kubota Kommander has a "belly gas tank", instead of it being on each side like most ZTR's. That's a REAL turn-off for me and sounds like the recall is related and they will continue to have gas tank related problems. I'll bet the second year model changes that design!!!!

DJ, I'm with ya on that. After alot of consideration over the weekend, I'm going to wait as well. I have never been one to buy 1st year model of anything. I'm hoping Kubota will make some changes for next years model. Maybe put their gas engines in the Kommanders? Or their own tranny's? A scaled down version of the ZD221? But of course that will come at a cost. I understand they came out with this model to compete with the BB's but I feel that they lowered their standards to do so.
Mike, please keep us updated on the recall. Grady
 
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DJ, I'm with ya on that. After alot of consideration over the weekend, I'm going to wait as well. I have never been one to buy 1st year model of anything. I'm hoping Kubota will make some changes for next years model. Maybe put their gas engines in the Kommanders? Or their own tranny's? But of course that will come at a cost. I understand they came out with this model to compete with the BB's but I feel that they lowered their standards to do so.
Mike, please keep us updated on the recall. Grady

Grady...I would not steer away from the mower at all... ok wait but I don't think you will need to for a year. Gosh the four year warranty and if you have a good dealer should that give you some form of comfort along with being a Kubota. As far as the "belly tank" to me it is a great idea. One main reason for it is to lower the center of gravity...which is important when it comes to safety. I think everyone is dealing with this CARB crap, gosh look at eBay...you can sell your old type gas cans for good money now. What people have to do to get by the venting issues is not easy. I have a 12 old Stihl trimmer and had to get a new cap for it...had to drill my own vent holes in it just to get it run properly.

Wish you the best...if you have any questions about the mower feel free to PM me.

Stay safe.

Mike
 

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Grady...I would not steer away from the mower at all... ok wait but I don't think you will need to for a year. Gosh the four year warranty and if you have a good dealer should that give you some form of comfort along with being a Kubota. As far as the "belly tank" to me it is a great idea. One main reason for it is to lower the center of gravity...which is important when it comes to safety. I think everyone is dealing with this CARB crap, gosh look at eBay...you can sell your old type gas cans for good money now. What people have to do to get by the venting issues is not easy. I have a 12 old Stihl trimmer and had to get a new cap for it...had to drill my own vent holes in it just to get it run properly.

Wish you the best...if you have any questions about the mower feel free to PM me.

Stay safe.

Mike

Duckman/Grady1,

Well, as you can see in the Manufacturer Ratings by the Dealer Networks in the link below, Kubota is way above the "all manufacturer average" deservingly so. I hope in the effort to accomplish center of gravity, the belly tank and ensuing recalls do not disenchant those dealer ratings for this year's models. See link below:

http://www.msdeda.com/pdf/2013 Dealer Manufacturer Survey.pdf

Ooops..my bad, that Dealer rating for Kubota is for the AG(major tractor manufacturing) equipment not for OPE(Outdoor Power Equipment). The Kubota ZTR's may/may not be included in those statistics. Sorry if my comments were misleading!!!
 

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FYI....the kits for the latest updates are in for the Kubota Kammander. My is getting installed tomorrow.

Still totally in love with this beast.
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I know this thread is old but it is relevant since these 2 models are what I am looking at now. We moved into this house that has 4 acres of land, mostly on inclines. I looked at both models and I can't make a decision yet. The Husky has an amazing deal where for $5350, I get the MZT52 and an edger, backpack blower, and a trimmer valued at $6400 total. It is a package for the commercial landscaper starting a new business. The Kubota ZG127S is $5770. The model comes with all of the recalls completed. The Kubota seems easier to use. The belts are easy to get at, nothing much to take off. The oil filter I can easily grab myself. There is an oil drain hose that lets you drain into a pan. The fuel tank is what I like. I don't have to worry about mowing on the side of a hill with a side-mounted fuel tank. Deck adjustments are as easy as a turn on the dial and then a press of your foot. I'll need my reading glasses to see what hole I'm trying to plug with the Husky. The Kubota has the Kohler Courage Pro and the Husky has the B&S Endurance Commercial and the 3400 transmission. The deck is thicker on the Kubota (10 vs 11 gauge). The bagger on the Kubota seems much easier to remove (wife wants an easy way to bag the Fall leaves). So has anything since last May changed your minds on which of the 2 is better?

Oh, I did like the Kubota service better than the other place that stocked the Husky (and 4 other vendors like Exmark, Stag, and some other I never heard of). The Kubota dealer is also 15 minutes from me where the Husky dealer is 30 to 40 minutes away. The Husky guy did say I can try out any of their rented models for free to help me make a decision.

Thanks,
Patrick
 

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I know this thread is old but it is relevant since these 2 models are what I am looking at now. We moved into this house that has 4 acres of land, mostly on inclines. I looked at both models and I can't make a decision yet. The Husky has an amazing deal where for $5350, I get the MZT52 and an edger, backpack blower, and a trimmer valued at $6400 total. It is a package for the commercial landscaper starting a new business. The Kubota ZG127S is $5770. The model comes with all of the recalls completed. The Kubota seems easier to use. The belts are easy to get at, nothing much to take off. The oil filter I can easily grab myself. There is an oil drain hose that lets you drain into a pan. The fuel tank is what I like. I don't have to worry about mowing on the side of a hill with a side-mounted fuel tank. Deck adjustments are as easy as a turn on the dial and then a press of your foot. I'll need my reading glasses to see what hole I'm trying to plug with the Husky. The Kubota has the Kohler Courage Pro and the Husky has the B&S Endurance Commercial and the 3400 transmission. The deck is thicker on the Kubota (10 vs 11 gauge). The bagger on the Kubota seems much easier to remove (wife wants an easy way to bag the Fall leaves). So has anything since last May changed your minds on which of the 2 is better?

Oh, I did like the Kubota service better than the other place that stocked the Husky (and 4 other vendors like Exmark, Stag, and some other I never heard of). The Kubota dealer is also 15 minutes from me where the Husky dealer is 30 to 40 minutes away. The Husky guy did say I can try out any of their rented models for free to help me make a decision.

Thanks,
Patrick
I have been in the same boat trying to make a decision. I thought the service on the Husky looked easier that some others. I got a price of $4850 on a MZT 52.
 
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