Husqvarna Automower

KennyV

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The Robomow is the one I was comparing to...
They make a fantastic mower, I have set that one up in a few places it's simple and with the exception of the "twin" wire and cutting blades everything seems the same... :smile:KennyV
 

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Iv only sold a couple but we have one for demo purpose at local agticultural shows and works a treat as a marketing gimic.

One problem i get is your garden has to be really clear of roots and bumps in the lawn as they can get stuck but once they are fixed it rarely happens.

Only downside from a repair shop side it takes away the servicing of a tractor.
 

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Husqvarna is tough to get any consumer end contact information from. Everything is
routed through dealers. I do understand the reasoning behind this, but there are
times that you may need to bypass the dealer.

I have indeed noticed what you describe. Yet I have had two Husqvarna staffers visit
the property! One was a demonstrator (along with a local dealer rep) and he made
some suggestions about potential hazards to an automower in the mowing zone.
I've remedied one and started on another two. The said demonstrator also said that
the site would tax any 230 to it's limit and maybe I'd need two! (Perhaps he has
a money tree in his yard?)

Later, I had another visit from the Husqvarna dealer territory manager. He said that
the 260 would be so much better, so I should wait until the 260 model was released
in New Zealand. He gave an indicative date, and, with a wry smile, said that the date
he gave me may be, ahhhh, 'elastic,' as it was the second release date, so far. :wink:

It looks like there is not much Husqvarna dealer presence in New Zealand.

We have a fair spread, but the automower is in the once-a-year sale category, from
what I can tell. Brush cutter, chainsaws and ride-on mowers seem to be the categories
most favoured. Which is why you're right on the button with this comment:

I do not anticipate any local dealer will be very knowledgeable regarding this type
of equipment.

I will have to look into the control systems on this mower.
Thanks. It's complicated but there's no need for it to be beyond comprehension by an
end consumer with a few clues. When I used to re-build the Toro 70" Pro machines
and supply parts to dealers, I gave advice to anyone that asked. Often, dealers would
refer end users to me, after checking if I was OK with that. We all won, that way.

The automower is using a 'twin wire' perimeter system. I can only speculate that one
run is for boundary & the other is communication?
Do you mean multi-strand, rather than two wires? From the manual, there only seems
to be one wire. But the manual's mention of special jointers supplied (and the illustration)
doesn't look like they are jointing anything other than one internal wire, though.

When the demonstrator was here, he spoke of directional signals going down the wire.
He explained that running a wire in from the perimeter to a no-go island like a flower bed
still allowed the automower to cross the there-and-back runs of wire to the flower bed.
He said that the reason the there-and-back wires must be together was that the signals
cancelled out, one going one way and the reverse. It was that which enabled the auto-
mower to cross them.

So that may mean some sort of extra ADSL-like signal is going around the perimeter
wire. One for the boundary limit and one for your cease-and-desist order to come from,
when the power goes out.

Maybe it means a UPS is necessary? All very interesting.

Post back with anything you discover. I will do the same. :smile:
Will do!
 
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Some of the literature mentions Twin wire or Dual guide wires... there was definitely 2 separate wires in the run...
The Robomow would also find spots that it could get 'trapped', once identified they were easily corrected.

A UPS would surely be the simple solution... there should not be a very big amp draw during communication while running without external grid powering the perimeter.... :smile:KennyV
 

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Have a look at this illustration from the manual. It's what makes me say that
it's hard to see how the wire can be multi-core.

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BTW - have you ever fitted (or used) a secondary area generator?

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No one around these parts - dealer or Husqvarana staffer - knows what one is/does!
 

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BTW - have you ever fitted (or used) a secondary area generator?
....

That is the boundary wire for some of the models & it is exactly like the RoboMow...
But they say the higher end models use the dual wire...?

The secondary area is just that... It allows you to permanently set up a second space to operate the mower... I did a front yard as a second area, back yard was the primary... You could not get it to find the second space on it's own, you had to use the remote to 'drive' it into the second space... :smile:KennyV
 

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What I don't get is the plug configuration. One end for mains;
the other goes where? AFAIK, Husqvarna don't have a remote
control. According to their local staffers, one must pick the
automower up and carry it to a 'remote' area, then leave it
to work until the battery is exhausted.

I presume one then has to pick it up to take it back and man-
ually poke it into the charging station to recharge the battery?

In reality, this is a high tech gadget. From what I can tell, the
manual and other available information has been dumbed-
down to suit the average Jill or Joe end consumer. For anyone
with half an inquiring mind, there's no help to be had from
Husqvarna, in seeking any deeper understanding of all the
technology involved in getting the best out of the product.

That might be tolerable if the local dealer is switched-on to
the product. As in, doing an installation many or several times-
a-year. Not much use for the once-in-a-blue-moon installation
by a dealer. No real opportunity to gain experience, that way.
 

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Re: Husqvarna Automower Considerations

Instead of the husqvarna have you tried Robomow.
I think this was the 1st designed in 90s.

I did a lot of review reading and the robomow did
not rate that well. There is another brand, the name
of which I can't recall at the moment, but the reviews
were not much better. (One's Israeli, the other's Italian
if I recall correctly).

The other aspect is area. I don't recall exactly now,
but a look at the site you suggested (been there before)
gave no indication of the Robomow's area capacity.

Many of the automower web reviews were superficial:
mainly regurgitating the promotional material put out
by the company. Has anyone thought for a moment:
just how much real use is a text-sending feature in
a robot mower? Also, in order to send a SMS, wouldn't
the device have to have some form of cellular service
provider registration? E.g. a number and SIM card?

A remote control device to change programming would
seem far more useful.

I also think there's not enough said about the limitations
and impositions of having a robotic mower. Especially
in any large garden area with lots of trees - like mine.

Lawn vigilance will be a pre-requisite. A small branch
fallen from a tree; a ball dropped by a dog; a toy or
item of clothing left by a child. All would be a hazard
in one way or another. One might also ask how it will
manage a pile of dog turd?

I have had lots of experience with laying and mowing
lawns. As well as some machine-specific mower main-
tenance. Mowing wet grass is best avoided for lots of
reasons. Yet in winter, it's hard to get a day of dry grass,
following on from the common nightly frosts.

In summer, there's a need to program around pop-up
irrigation and wet lawns because of dew. It all take
some effort and planning. Not that the PR guys want
people to think on that for too long. In a sense, such
a 'blind' mowing machine reminds me of the old joke:

You don't own your stuff; your stuff owns you.
 
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