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i have a simplicity landlord model 1692024 rider that needs the pto switch replaced, i replace the switch and cant figure out where the 4 wires go on a 8 terminal switch, who ever had it before me took off the connector switch and hooked the wires seperatly, so i have no idea what terminal on the switch they go. i can find a diagram for it either, thx a million

Check & see if there are any Simplicity Landlords for sale on websites in your area & take pen & paper with you. Maybe you have a Simplicity dealer in your area, take your new switch with you so you can mark where wires go after talking with technician.

mechanic mark said:

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i check that and i couldnt find what wires go to what terminal

That is because the idiot moron DPO has modified the wireing.
Bet he went to face book to work out how to bugger it up
There should be a minimum of 6 wires on the PTO switch
What are the colours of your mystery wires wires
Can you crank the engine without the PTO switch there ?

Can you post any pictures also ?
Found contact info also.

Star Tech I found that diagram also but had trouble posting it.
He says his PTO switch has 8 lugs on it and the diagram only shows 4.
If his wires match the colors on the diagram it would be a start.

It is a simple triple pole double throw switch. Basically it is a toggle switch with two on positions. Not all poles or throws needed. It is quite common to see only 4 wires used on these switch especially on JD mowers. The contact positions off and on indicated below with blank (white) pin being inactive in each position. Dont let my coloring of each pole throw you as any color wire can be present depending the OEM. The missing nineth pin is not shown. Depending the OEM not all pins are used.

bertsmobile1 said:

That is because the idiot moron DPO has modified the wireing.
Bet he went to face book to work out how to bugger it up
There should be a minimum of 6 wires on the PTO switch
What are the colours of your mystery wires wires
Can you crank the engine without the PTO switch there ?

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1 red/yellow,black/white,2 gray/white,black/white, 3 orange/black,4 yellow/black/brown white theres 4 wire connectors and 8 on the new switch. and it runs without the pto swtich disconnected

StarTech said:

It is a simple triple pole double throw switch. Basically it is a toggle switch with two on positions. Not all poles or throws needed. It is quite common to see only 4 wires used on these switch especially on JD mowers. The contact positions off and on indicated below with blank (white) pin being inactive in each position. Dont let my coloring of each pole throw you as any color wire can be present depending the OEM. The missing nineth pin is not shown. Depending the OEM not all pins are used.

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do you happen to know what of the colored wires go where?
it only has 4 connectors to connect to the 8 termials

HRVCK29 said:

1 red/yellow,black/white,2 gray/white,black/white, 3 orange/black,4 yellow/black/brown white theres 4 wire connectors and 8 on the new switch. and it runs without the pto swtich disconnected

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From the diagram posted
Terminal A is white and black
Terminal C is red and yellow
Terminal D is yellow and black
Terminal E is orange and black

Your explanation is confusing.
Like wire #1 can't see how the color can be red/yellow and black/white.
Pictures would help.

Richie F said:

From the diagram posted
Terminal A is white and black
Terminal C is red and yellow
Terminal D is yellow and black
Terminal E is orange and black

Your explanation is confusing.
Like wire #1 can't see how the color can be red/yellow and black/white.
Pictures would help.

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got lawn mower like this it didnt have connector for pto just had these wires,need to know where they go on the pto switch

OK now your explanation of the wires makes sense.
Have you looked into the two dealers in Michigan for posible help ?
Are there any other numbers along with the one you have provided ?

Richie F said:

OK now your explanation of the wires makes sense.
Have you looked into the two dealers in Michigan for posible help ?
Are there any other numbers along with the one you have provided ?

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no there isnt any numbers on the switch itself and i have not contacted a dealer yet was hoping i could get help here before i call a dealer and try to explaain over the phone

As shown in the diagram Star posted the terminals connect from flat to flat
Use your meter to check your switch
The cranking circuit wires go to the terminals that are connected when the switch is off ( shown red or orange )
The PTO wires get connected to the terminals that are connected when the switch is on ( shown yellow )
Work out the colours from the diagram that Star also uploaded

Is that the correct wiring diagram for his machine ?
In his photo you see there are wires of different colors bundled to one terminal connector.
The diagram doesn't show that.

HRVCK29 said:

no there isnt any numbers on the switch itself and i have not contacted a dealer yet was hoping i could get help here before i call a dealer and try to explaain over the phone

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I ment on the tag for the machine.
Model number and serial number.

Richie F said:

I ment on the tag for the machine.
Model number and serial number.

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model # 1692024 s/n 1632

Looks like I am need to take a stab at this.

1> The connector with the RED/YELLOW, BLACK/RED, BLUE wires should have 12V on it with the ignition switch on.

2> The connector with the ORANGE/BLACK should be from the transmission switch. It goes thru the transmission switch to provide grounding for the starter solenoid.

3> The connector with the BLACK/WHITE, GRAY/WHITE test to have around 3 ohms +- as it should be the PTO clutch. Probably a little less since the PTO light is also part of the circuit. (Provided that the PTO clutch is permanently grounded.)

4> The connector with the YELLOW/BLACK, BROWN/WHITE goes to the Negative side of the PTO light and PIN 6 of the interlock module. Also goes to pin 1 of the large harness plug which goes to PTO clutch ground side. Looks to a grounded circuit.

Circuit paths 1 and 3 would be the PTO power circuit. They would be connected to terminal bank "A" engaged position of the switch diagram I posted
Circuit paths 2 and 4 would be the starter solenoid control circuit. They would be connected to either bank "B" or "C" disengaged position.of the switch diagram I posted. Don't cross connect bank "B and "C".

Bert you got it figured right, hopefully I figured the colors out right. Kinda to hard do remotely and never having seen one these mowers. This provide that I am reading the schematic right.

I have to ask, how to do know the routing of the wires when the diagram is a signal color wire ?
The diagram also at the PTO switch has the labels A,C,D and E not 1,2,3,4.
I do have have a dealer on Long Island that's about 12 miles from me.
I'll call them and see if they might:
A) Have a machine with the correct wiring at the PTO switch.
B) The correct wiring diagram for the problem machine.
Like you Star Tech I want to know.

Trace circuit back to the tie points. The only one questionable wire is the GREY/WHITE which I think is just a sub for the Purple wire.

1 will be C
2 will be E
3 will be A
4 will be D

Thanks for your input.
Wanted to know your logic between numbers and letters.
Still don't see how unknown bundle of wires on a terminal spade relates a single wire connection ?