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Heads up fellows things are getting nasty.
#1
StarTech
StarTech
Putin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert.
If this is so our governments are inching ever closer to nuclear war with Russia. Damn fools on both sides. Looks like the Russian president is hell bent on destroying the world if he don't get his way. I say we're less than half a second before Midnight right now.
If this is so our governments are inching ever closer to nuclear war with Russia. Damn fools on both sides. Looks like the Russian president is hell bent on destroying the world if he don't get his way. I say we're less than half a second before Midnight right now.
#2
Mower King
Mower King
This is true but, there is nothing you & I can do about it....Putin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert.
If this is so our governments are inching ever closer to nuclear war with Russia. Damn fools on both sides. Looks like the Russian president is hell bent on destroying the world if he don't get his way. I say we're less than half a second before Midnight right now.
#3
StarTech
StarTech
Correct...It like when a tornado is bearing down on me, all I can do is bend over and kiss my tail goodbye or get lucky and it changes direction like the last one did.
#4
H
hlw49
H
hlw49
We can be ready to go when that time comes. Put our trust in God and believe in him and he will save us. No matter the out come.
#5
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
Yep, he's not wanting other European nato countries to aid Ukraine.Putin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert.
If this is so our governments are inching ever closer to nuclear war with Russia. Damn fools on both sides. Looks like the Russian president is hell bent on destroying the world if he don't get his way. I say we're less than half a second before Midnight right now.
#6
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
Well to draw the obvious comparisons
What happened in Europe the last time a short man with dillusions of grandure decided that he had the god given rights to restore his "fatherland" to it's rightful place of domination and the rest of the world dithered & twiddled their thumbs .
Putin is a child of the revolution so he believes in the ritechousness of his actions the same way as a religous biggot believes that he has the right to remove the unbelievers from the planet.
Where have we heard "for the glory of the fatherland before " ?
The correct solution would be to sent in the NATO air forces & wipe out the tanks & heavy artillary then close the air space .
Fighting street by street & house by house is very difficult for an invading force , Ask any of the veterans you know who served in Iran, Afghanistan , or even Vietnam .
Putin probably believes what the separatists have been telling him that the Ukranians all hate their government and are desperate to come back to mother Russia .
The EU on the other hand is hostage to Russian energy having closed down nearly all of their atomic power stations so if Putin tuns off the oil & gas supplies they will freeze before winter is over .
Just like Hitler, every victory will snowball until we are in WW III .
Sanctions are a joke , they never work just like prohibition when you make a trade illegal there will be massive profits for finding ways to subvert them .
Two countries have been buying Gold like crazy the past 10 years.
China & Russia , so even if the ruble is no longer worth the cost of it's own weight in recycled paper Russia , the country will be unaffected for decades , the people will suffer but they were used to driving their Trabants & Ladas for 1/2 a century and queing for hours to buy bread because the Kremlin was diverting all available funds into their military .
What happened in Europe the last time a short man with dillusions of grandure decided that he had the god given rights to restore his "fatherland" to it's rightful place of domination and the rest of the world dithered & twiddled their thumbs .
Putin is a child of the revolution so he believes in the ritechousness of his actions the same way as a religous biggot believes that he has the right to remove the unbelievers from the planet.
Where have we heard "for the glory of the fatherland before " ?
The correct solution would be to sent in the NATO air forces & wipe out the tanks & heavy artillary then close the air space .
Fighting street by street & house by house is very difficult for an invading force , Ask any of the veterans you know who served in Iran, Afghanistan , or even Vietnam .
Putin probably believes what the separatists have been telling him that the Ukranians all hate their government and are desperate to come back to mother Russia .
The EU on the other hand is hostage to Russian energy having closed down nearly all of their atomic power stations so if Putin tuns off the oil & gas supplies they will freeze before winter is over .
Just like Hitler, every victory will snowball until we are in WW III .
Sanctions are a joke , they never work just like prohibition when you make a trade illegal there will be massive profits for finding ways to subvert them .
Two countries have been buying Gold like crazy the past 10 years.
China & Russia , so even if the ruble is no longer worth the cost of it's own weight in recycled paper Russia , the country will be unaffected for decades , the people will suffer but they were used to driving their Trabants & Ladas for 1/2 a century and queing for hours to buy bread because the Kremlin was diverting all available funds into their military .
#7
7394
7394
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#8
StarTech
StarTech
Well it appears something is working. But it is both good and bad.
The Russian central bank on Monday raised its key interest rate to 20% from 9.5% to counter risks of Ruble depreciation and higher inflation.
Russia has also ordered companies to sell 80% of their foreign currency revenues, the central bank and the finance ministry said.
This is done in an attempt to shore up the Ruble and to prevent a run on the banks.
Russia also have their stock market closed today.
But having Putin to put the nuclear arsenal on alert isn't good either. Just shows he is scared to death that things are not going his way.
As I said things are getting nasty in a hurry. It is the common man that gets hurt the most. The big shots just don't care. Besides Putin is looking like a crowd by not being on the fighting line himself unlike Zelensky. Putin is well insulated from the bullets. Zelensky might be a comic but is still brave enough to stand up to the Russian military.
Well this image says a lot about who has been on the front lines. Now common on business suits are not fighting attire as you to worry about getting them dirty as no dry cleaners on the front lines.
As for NATO something happening on that front too. As to what I don't know yet. All I know for sure is it stop raining for now here and it is cold.
The Russian central bank on Monday raised its key interest rate to 20% from 9.5% to counter risks of Ruble depreciation and higher inflation.
Russia has also ordered companies to sell 80% of their foreign currency revenues, the central bank and the finance ministry said.
This is done in an attempt to shore up the Ruble and to prevent a run on the banks.
Russia also have their stock market closed today.
But having Putin to put the nuclear arsenal on alert isn't good either. Just shows he is scared to death that things are not going his way.
As I said things are getting nasty in a hurry. It is the common man that gets hurt the most. The big shots just don't care. Besides Putin is looking like a crowd by not being on the fighting line himself unlike Zelensky. Putin is well insulated from the bullets. Zelensky might be a comic but is still brave enough to stand up to the Russian military.
Well this image says a lot about who has been on the front lines. Now common on business suits are not fighting attire as you to worry about getting them dirty as no dry cleaners on the front lines.
As for NATO something happening on that front too. As to what I don't know yet. All I know for sure is it stop raining for now here and it is cold.
#9
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
Well Russia is pretty well self sufficient so they can go a long time before embargos are a problem.
They can still trade with China & North Korea
Russia is a major exported of food , fuel , medicnes and weapons.
They are also big suppliers of Chromium , molybdenum & vanadium so the embargo will be a BS one like the North Korean & South African ones were .Putins popularity is split at about 50 year olds.
The 50+ think he is God & the under 50's see him as the devil.
The bulk of the military are under 40 so there is a big chance of this blowing up in his face with a popular uprising in Russia itself .
I have been listening to all of his speeches ( or what we are told is an accurate translation of his speeches and it definately sounds like he thought if the tanks rolled in the Ukranians would welcome them with open arms and the government would fall over .
He sounds really confused as to why this did not happen.
He will not use the Nukes because he has amassed a massive fortune stolen from the Russian people which he intends to live long enough to spend and he knows that if the button is pushed then buttons all over Europe and in submarines all over the oceans would also get pushed so that is a bit of brinkmanship .
There are also a lot of cronies with a lot of money who are stuck in Russia who care more about their families & the masses of money they have accrued than they do about the "glory of the fatherland " so if it looks like Putin is about to cause a revolution then they will give him a shove .
But the fact that the Ukranians have stood their ground & resisted seems to have him rattled as if he thought it would be like Crimea .
If he really wanted to Russia has enough conventional weapons the "Bomb then back into the stone age " to quite one of your own .
Russia has a GDP & economy around the same size as Australia but a population of around 150,000,000 as compared to our 30,000,000
Russias spend on defence as a percentage of GDP is nearly double what Australias' is and 1% higher then the USA
The USA defence budget is sending the USA brake, so imagine what effect the Russian defence spending is doing to the bottom line in Russia .
What sent the USSR to the wall was it's spend on weaponary which is why there are hundreds of quite recient war ship at anchor in Russian harbours, because they can not afford to man them so they are rusting apart in harbours.
It was not all that long ago that Russia was requesting help to decomission most of their naval fleet because they could not afford to do it themselves
They can still trade with China & North Korea
Russia is a major exported of food , fuel , medicnes and weapons.
They are also big suppliers of Chromium , molybdenum & vanadium so the embargo will be a BS one like the North Korean & South African ones were .Putins popularity is split at about 50 year olds.
The 50+ think he is God & the under 50's see him as the devil.
The bulk of the military are under 40 so there is a big chance of this blowing up in his face with a popular uprising in Russia itself .
I have been listening to all of his speeches ( or what we are told is an accurate translation of his speeches and it definately sounds like he thought if the tanks rolled in the Ukranians would welcome them with open arms and the government would fall over .
He sounds really confused as to why this did not happen.
He will not use the Nukes because he has amassed a massive fortune stolen from the Russian people which he intends to live long enough to spend and he knows that if the button is pushed then buttons all over Europe and in submarines all over the oceans would also get pushed so that is a bit of brinkmanship .
There are also a lot of cronies with a lot of money who are stuck in Russia who care more about their families & the masses of money they have accrued than they do about the "glory of the fatherland " so if it looks like Putin is about to cause a revolution then they will give him a shove .
But the fact that the Ukranians have stood their ground & resisted seems to have him rattled as if he thought it would be like Crimea .
If he really wanted to Russia has enough conventional weapons the "Bomb then back into the stone age " to quite one of your own .
Russia has a GDP & economy around the same size as Australia but a population of around 150,000,000 as compared to our 30,000,000
Russias spend on defence as a percentage of GDP is nearly double what Australias' is and 1% higher then the USA
The USA defence budget is sending the USA brake, so imagine what effect the Russian defence spending is doing to the bottom line in Russia .
What sent the USSR to the wall was it's spend on weaponary which is why there are hundreds of quite recient war ship at anchor in Russian harbours, because they can not afford to man them so they are rusting apart in harbours.
It was not all that long ago that Russia was requesting help to decomission most of their naval fleet because they could not afford to do it themselves
#10
StarTech
StarTech
But at least we not funding a war type action in the Afghanistan region so those funds are now available for other purposes. And the US just froze the Russia Central Bank access to funds they have in the US.
And yes Russia can just send in all their bombers but will be meet by the rest of the world turning completely on them. AKA WWIII. Then we don't need worry about climate change as we will not be here.
And yes Russia can just send in all their bombers but will be meet by the rest of the world turning completely on them. AKA WWIII. Then we don't need worry about climate change as we will not be here.
#11
StarTech
StarTech
And Putin appears to be afraid of his own people or looks that way in this image.
#12
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
Decades ago I went to a public lecture ( I used to go to a lot of them ) presented by a forensic accountant .
He looked at the rise & fall of empire based on the percentage of their GDP spent on defence .
HE came up with a number , it was something like 3% , can not remember the actual number now.
Back then the USSR, USA , North Korea , Israel , Iran, Iraq & Saudi Arabia were all above the magic number. ( there were others )
At a latter date an economist gave a similar paper using defence spend per hear of population model .
The results were very similar , although the latter one also included domestic police in his calculations .
The really interesting bit was those countries who spent above their magic numbers all had declining standards of living & declining life expecentcies .
Countries who spent less had increasing standards of living.
And this was independent of the actual economy as it applied equally as well to first world countries as it did to 3rd world countries .
I did ask both of them how they got numbers for the Roman , Mongal , Ming , Aztec & Myar empires but they glossed over that & quickly took another question.
Now Putin is a power hungry tyrant as is Xi Jinping denoted that both of them have made themselves into emperors . Tyrants can not tollerate not having absolute control .
Now Belarus has a puppet government in lock step with Putin & Lativa & Lituania are fairly well under Putins thumb
But Ukrane is an economically viable stand alone country and as such have become independent and Putin will not tollerate that .
HE thought that lots of tanks would frighten the Ukranians into submission and cause Volodymyr Zelensky to flee so he could be replaced with one of Putins men but Volodymyr Zelensky not only refused to run away but put on fatigues and stood his ground vowing that he will fight to the death .
Nothing unites a country more than a leader who picks up a weapon and stands on the front line .
As such there can be no military victory in the Ukrane unless every man woman & child is slaughtered .
Now Putin can do that in Russia where h has 100% control over he media but he can not get away with it in the Ukrane so now there is a stand off situation .
Putin can not win & can not be seen to have lost because the other ex-USSR republics could then defect to the west .
What should happen now is the UN should strip Russia of it's veto power then relegate it to where it should be as a second tier military power and a fourth tier economic power .
This would most likely cause Putins cronies to give him a little shove over a cliff ( tragic accidential death of a political hero ) rather than have the political status of Russia deminished to where it really should have been post the USSR break up .
He looked at the rise & fall of empire based on the percentage of their GDP spent on defence .
HE came up with a number , it was something like 3% , can not remember the actual number now.
Back then the USSR, USA , North Korea , Israel , Iran, Iraq & Saudi Arabia were all above the magic number. ( there were others )
At a latter date an economist gave a similar paper using defence spend per hear of population model .
The results were very similar , although the latter one also included domestic police in his calculations .
The really interesting bit was those countries who spent above their magic numbers all had declining standards of living & declining life expecentcies .
Countries who spent less had increasing standards of living.
And this was independent of the actual economy as it applied equally as well to first world countries as it did to 3rd world countries .
I did ask both of them how they got numbers for the Roman , Mongal , Ming , Aztec & Myar empires but they glossed over that & quickly took another question.
Now Putin is a power hungry tyrant as is Xi Jinping denoted that both of them have made themselves into emperors . Tyrants can not tollerate not having absolute control .
Now Belarus has a puppet government in lock step with Putin & Lativa & Lituania are fairly well under Putins thumb
But Ukrane is an economically viable stand alone country and as such have become independent and Putin will not tollerate that .
HE thought that lots of tanks would frighten the Ukranians into submission and cause Volodymyr Zelensky to flee so he could be replaced with one of Putins men but Volodymyr Zelensky not only refused to run away but put on fatigues and stood his ground vowing that he will fight to the death .
Nothing unites a country more than a leader who picks up a weapon and stands on the front line .
As such there can be no military victory in the Ukrane unless every man woman & child is slaughtered .
Now Putin can do that in Russia where h has 100% control over he media but he can not get away with it in the Ukrane so now there is a stand off situation .
Putin can not win & can not be seen to have lost because the other ex-USSR republics could then defect to the west .
What should happen now is the UN should strip Russia of it's veto power then relegate it to where it should be as a second tier military power and a fourth tier economic power .
This would most likely cause Putins cronies to give him a little shove over a cliff ( tragic accidential death of a political hero ) rather than have the political status of Russia deminished to where it really should have been post the USSR break up .
#13
S
SHB
S
SHB
And Putin appears to be afraid of his own people or looks that way in this image.
View attachment 59577
#14
R
RolandW
R
RolandW
As has been the case over and over during my lifetime, US involvement surely will make things worse, not better.
Aside from the obvious horrors of war, what is disturbing about this is how – once again – any thoughtful opposition to US involvement is denounced as traitorous. Critical of the Biden regime's actions? You're a Putin puppet! Die, you commie traitor! Sheesh.
During Vietnam, conservatives shouted down the opposition with "America: Love it or Leave!" 50,000 dead Americans later, US forces turned tail and ran.
In Iraq, there was a secular government that tolerated Christianity before the US intervened. Now it is an Islamic Republic ruled by what the Economist Intelligence Unit has rated an "authoritarian regime." USA! USA!
After 20 years and much spilled blood in Afghanistan, once again the mighty US war machine was humiliated, leaving the place to a stronger-than-ever Taliban. And now they have tons and tons of spiffy new weapons to play with. Yay!
On 9/11, having spent trillions on supposed "defense," the US military-industrial complex couldn't even prevent a handful of guys with utility knives from killing 3,000 innocent people on American soil. Pathetic.
When it comes to military intervention, everything politicians touch turns to crap. How many more failures do Americans have to witness (and pay for) before they tell the bloodthirsty creeps in DC to shut up and mind their own business?
Aside from the obvious horrors of war, what is disturbing about this is how – once again – any thoughtful opposition to US involvement is denounced as traitorous. Critical of the Biden regime's actions? You're a Putin puppet! Die, you commie traitor! Sheesh.
During Vietnam, conservatives shouted down the opposition with "America: Love it or Leave!" 50,000 dead Americans later, US forces turned tail and ran.
In Iraq, there was a secular government that tolerated Christianity before the US intervened. Now it is an Islamic Republic ruled by what the Economist Intelligence Unit has rated an "authoritarian regime." USA! USA!
After 20 years and much spilled blood in Afghanistan, once again the mighty US war machine was humiliated, leaving the place to a stronger-than-ever Taliban. And now they have tons and tons of spiffy new weapons to play with. Yay!
On 9/11, having spent trillions on supposed "defense," the US military-industrial complex couldn't even prevent a handful of guys with utility knives from killing 3,000 innocent people on American soil. Pathetic.
When it comes to military intervention, everything politicians touch turns to crap. How many more failures do Americans have to witness (and pay for) before they tell the bloodthirsty creeps in DC to shut up and mind their own business?
#15
M
mmoffitt
M
mmoffitt
Spring is here and the Lawn Mower summit is in full swing!Well it appears something is working. But it is both good and bad.
The Russian central bank on Monday raised its key interest rate to 20% from 9.5% to counter risks of Ruble depreciation and higher inflation.
Russia has also ordered companies to sell 80% of their foreign currency revenues, the central bank and the finance ministry said.
This is done in an attempt to shore up the Ruble and to prevent a run on the banks.
Russia also have their stock market closed today.
But having Putin to put the nuclear arsenal on alert isn't good either. Just shows he is scared to death that things are not going his way.
As I said things are getting nasty in a hurry. It is the common man that gets hurt the most. The big shots just don't care. Besides Putin is looking like a crowd by not being on the fighting line himself unlike Zelensky. Putin is well insulated from the bullets. Zelensky might be a comic but is still brave enough to stand up to the Russian military.
Well this image says a lot about who has been on the front lines. Now common on business suits are not fighting attire as you to worry about getting them dirty as no dry cleaners on the front lines.
View attachment 59575
As for NATO something happening on that front too. As to what I don't know yet. All I know for sure is it stop raining for now here and it is cold.
#16
M
mmoffitt
M
mmoffitt
Nyet to Soviet made mowers and equiptment... only the good stuff made in China formerly made in the USA
#17
W
wolfey01
W
wolfey01
When you see the flash
from the nuclear blast
You duck and cover
Duck and cover We have been afraid of nuclear war with Russia since I was in first grade! That was 63 years ago! They taught us this jingle so we wouldn't be afraid of nuclear war.
from the nuclear blast
You duck and cover
Duck and cover We have been afraid of nuclear war with Russia since I was in first grade! That was 63 years ago! They taught us this jingle so we wouldn't be afraid of nuclear war.
#18
B
bertsmobile1
Lots of stories ( true or false ? ) from our Vietnam vets about locals warning them there would be an attack.
Also lots of stories about our guys building schools & rebuilding villages only to have them bombed shortly afterwards .
Dozens of orphanages in Vietnam sponsored and in some cases manned by ex OZ military .
The depths of penetration of the military suppliers into US politics is a worry.
Perfect example is the forced merger of McDonald Douglass who were bankrupt with Boeing who were run profitably.
Then the board of the failed McDonald Douglass who all should have been sacked were intergrated into Boeing, displacing 2/3 of the Boeing board .
And the net result of this was the 737 Max disaster that will push Boeing to the brink the old board would never have let that plane leave the factory because they knew how poor the pilot training in commercial airlines is.
The Mac board OTOH is used to supplying planes to military pilots trained to the nth degree so they would have no problems recognising when they had to over ride the auto pilot .
Last year I see they pinned the blame on a Boeing test pilot but no one with more than 1 functioning brain cell would believe that he was the sole person responsible when there were 8 pilots who flew the plane & the engineers knew it was an inheriently unstable design.
B
bertsmobile1
Yes You don't win hearts & minds with bullets & bombs .As has been the case over and over during my lifetime, US involvement surely will make things worse, not better.
Aside from the obvious horrors of war, what is disturbing about this is how – once again – any thoughtful opposition to US involvement is denounced as traitorous. Critical of the Biden regime's actions? You're a Putin puppet! Die, you commie traitor! Sheesh.
During Vietnam, conservatives shouted down the opposition with "America: Love it or Leave!" 50,000 dead Americans later, US forces turned tail and ran.
In Iraq, there was a secular government that tolerated Christianity before the US intervened. Now it is an Islamic Republic ruled by what the Economist Intelligence Unit has rated an "authoritarian regime." USA! USA!
After 20 years and much spilled blood in Afghanistan, once again the mighty US war machine was humiliated, leaving the place to a stronger-than-ever Taliban. And now they have tons and tons of spiffy new weapons to play with. Yay!
On 9/11, having spent trillions on supposed "defense," the US military-industrial complex couldn't even prevent a handful of guys with utility knives from killing 3,000 innocent people on American soil. Pathetic.
When it comes to military intervention, everything politicians touch turns to crap. How many more failures do Americans have to witness (and pay for) before they tell the bloodthirsty creeps in DC to shut up and mind their own business?
Lots of stories ( true or false ? ) from our Vietnam vets about locals warning them there would be an attack.
Also lots of stories about our guys building schools & rebuilding villages only to have them bombed shortly afterwards .
Dozens of orphanages in Vietnam sponsored and in some cases manned by ex OZ military .
The depths of penetration of the military suppliers into US politics is a worry.
Perfect example is the forced merger of McDonald Douglass who were bankrupt with Boeing who were run profitably.
Then the board of the failed McDonald Douglass who all should have been sacked were intergrated into Boeing, displacing 2/3 of the Boeing board .
And the net result of this was the 737 Max disaster that will push Boeing to the brink the old board would never have let that plane leave the factory because they knew how poor the pilot training in commercial airlines is.
The Mac board OTOH is used to supplying planes to military pilots trained to the nth degree so they would have no problems recognising when they had to over ride the auto pilot .
Last year I see they pinned the blame on a Boeing test pilot but no one with more than 1 functioning brain cell would believe that he was the sole person responsible when there were 8 pilots who flew the plane & the engineers knew it was an inheriently unstable design.
#19
StarTech
StarTech
I even heard a story of a group going into a village back in either WWI or WWII where the villagers claimed they had no food. So soldiers decided to make rock soup. While they cooking the rock soup they starting making comments how it would taste if it had some veggies in it. The villigers started bringing out the veggies and all had had a very good meal. The villagers just weren't sure if the solders were friends or foes. Trust had to be earned.
#20
MyGrassHasCrabs
MyGrassHasCrabs
Russia invading Ukraine could have been stopped by the USA remaining energy independent and supplying Russia's current customers with oil and natural gas.
But nooo, the climate change jackasses (aka AOC and her green new steal crew) knew better. Potato killed our energy independence and now we're paying Russia $50 million a day for oil (or that was what has been reported, who knows what you can believe from the "news", this is the same news that said potato got 81 million votes). Germany is dissuaded from materially applying pressure to Russia because they're dependent on Russian oil and natural gas.
I'd like to know where AOC and her climate jackasses are now that we're on the brink of WW3? They're quiet as mice now, aren't they? Gee, how much of a carbon footprint will a few nukes have? Man, I hate being governed by FOOLS.
I hope folks vote our current regime out in November. How nice would it be to never see nancy piglosi again...
But nooo, the climate change jackasses (aka AOC and her green new steal crew) knew better. Potato killed our energy independence and now we're paying Russia $50 million a day for oil (or that was what has been reported, who knows what you can believe from the "news", this is the same news that said potato got 81 million votes). Germany is dissuaded from materially applying pressure to Russia because they're dependent on Russian oil and natural gas.
I'd like to know where AOC and her climate jackasses are now that we're on the brink of WW3? They're quiet as mice now, aren't they? Gee, how much of a carbon footprint will a few nukes have? Man, I hate being governed by FOOLS.
I hope folks vote our current regime out in November. How nice would it be to never see nancy piglosi again...
#21
StarTech
StarTech
Like those flimsy desks was going protect us from the falling roof.When you see the flash
from the nuclear blast
You duck and cover
Duck and cover We have been afraid of nuclear war with Russia since I was in first grade! That was 63 years ago! They taught us this jingle so we wouldn't be afraid of nuclear war.
#22
4getgto
4getgto
Can't say much more than was already said...
#23
Hammermechanicman
Hammermechanicman
Lots of people think NATO will "fight" anyone who attacks a NATO alliance country. That will never happen. NATO is meant to be a deterrent to the soviets. If the S really hits the fan NATO and the UN will be worthless. Nobody is going to push the nuke button and Putin will just keep "annexing" countries till he is stopped by force. I always wondered what WW3 would look like. The big winner will be China. The one thing human beings do better than about any other animal on the planet is kill each other and we are damn good at it too.
#24
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
Right now the planet is undergoing the most weather based disasters that there has ever been since we started to keep records .
Next year ( this year if you like ) will be worse, expect more tornados , heavier downpours, heavier snow storms and higher peak temperatures in summer .
So no need to worry about nukes because the planet will kill us all by itself .
Last year record deaths from climatic sources
This year will be worse
It is only March and already this year there has been new records for the hottest day ever in Australia and the heat wave killed more people than covid
This current flood has killed more people than last years flood & they are not over yet .
You are right about the EU
It is very rare for countries with a strong trading relationship to go to war with each other
The economist NOT GOVERNMENTS pushed the idea if we had one world economy then there would be peace
However they did not take the Meglomaniac Emperior effect into account .
Putin & Trump are singing from the same song sheet , just different verses .
What should happen is Europe should dissable the Russian war machines & make the Ukrane a no fly zone so only ground troops & hand to hand fighting.
The world should invade Russia & totally disarm them as was done with Japan .
Putin wants Ukrane in order to plunder the wealth of the Ukranians so he has more money to pump into his military.
What he is terrified of is ordinary Russians seeing what happens when they are not robbed to support a massive military .
Ukranians have a substantially higher standard of living than Russians have & eventually the population of Russia will start to wonder why .
So the simple solution is to over run the Ukrane
And it will not stop there ,
Any surrounding country that does not elect a Russian puppet government will suffer the same consequences
Which ever government is in power in the USA will make zero difference because the same Nuke threat is there
China did exactly the same thing by different means to every independent country on it's border.
The big war will be when China & Russia start to fight about Manchuria to plunder it's resources .
Next year ( this year if you like ) will be worse, expect more tornados , heavier downpours, heavier snow storms and higher peak temperatures in summer .
So no need to worry about nukes because the planet will kill us all by itself .
Last year record deaths from climatic sources
This year will be worse
It is only March and already this year there has been new records for the hottest day ever in Australia and the heat wave killed more people than covid
This current flood has killed more people than last years flood & they are not over yet .
You are right about the EU
It is very rare for countries with a strong trading relationship to go to war with each other
The economist NOT GOVERNMENTS pushed the idea if we had one world economy then there would be peace
However they did not take the Meglomaniac Emperior effect into account .
Putin & Trump are singing from the same song sheet , just different verses .
What should happen is Europe should dissable the Russian war machines & make the Ukrane a no fly zone so only ground troops & hand to hand fighting.
The world should invade Russia & totally disarm them as was done with Japan .
Putin wants Ukrane in order to plunder the wealth of the Ukranians so he has more money to pump into his military.
What he is terrified of is ordinary Russians seeing what happens when they are not robbed to support a massive military .
Ukranians have a substantially higher standard of living than Russians have & eventually the population of Russia will start to wonder why .
So the simple solution is to over run the Ukrane
And it will not stop there ,
Any surrounding country that does not elect a Russian puppet government will suffer the same consequences
Which ever government is in power in the USA will make zero difference because the same Nuke threat is there
China did exactly the same thing by different means to every independent country on it's border.
The big war will be when China & Russia start to fight about Manchuria to plunder it's resources .
#25
StarTech
StarTech
Well it looks like the Russian military are idiots when they start attacking nuclear power plants with artillery. It report that now have taken over another plant and forcing working at gun point to do their jobs as the Russian miltary have no idea of how to run the plant safety themselves. Putin is getting angrier and he will insist on attacking of the plants and attacking the civilians. What a liar he is that is doing this to protect the Russians in Ukraine when they very people his military is attacking.
As Putin and Trump are both just alike as both will lie to your face while doing something totally different. Both cant stand it when they are on the losing ends so lie more to try get their way. Putin right now is barring news that he don't approve of to keep his people under his control. The same that Trump wanted to do. Both of them only cares about themselves and no one else.
To me it looks like more and more like we are headed to total destruction of our world. Next after this one might might just be fought with sticks and rocks if any of us are left.
As Putin and Trump are both just alike as both will lie to your face while doing something totally different. Both cant stand it when they are on the losing ends so lie more to try get their way. Putin right now is barring news that he don't approve of to keep his people under his control. The same that Trump wanted to do. Both of them only cares about themselves and no one else.
To me it looks like more and more like we are headed to total destruction of our world. Next after this one might might just be fought with sticks and rocks if any of us are left.
#26
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
Hitler annexes Austria & the world did nothing
Putin annexed the Georgia & the world did nothing
Hitler invaded Poland & the world did nothing
Putin invaded the Crimea & the world did nothing
Hitler invaded Denmark and the world finally realized he was a problem
By the time some opposition was ready to be mounted Norway & Belgium were also under Nazi control
So because the world was scared to get involved in another war we ended up in a quagmire for another 5 years
Am I the only person who sees the similarity ?
If Putin is not stopped dead in this tank tracks right now we will be fighting a monster for a decade
Russia is not a wealthy country wipe out the tanks & it will take 50 years to build up the fleet again
It was trying to have more weapons than the West which actually was the real reason why the USSR finally collapsed.
We like to think it was because capitalism is so much better but in reality they just spent too much on weapons and eventually ran out of money .
There should be a law that only men over 6'6" can be allowed to run for president of any country because it is the short men who give the world grief
( napoleon hitler putin ) all suffer from the small man complex .
Putin annexed the Georgia & the world did nothing
Hitler invaded Poland & the world did nothing
Putin invaded the Crimea & the world did nothing
Hitler invaded Denmark and the world finally realized he was a problem
By the time some opposition was ready to be mounted Norway & Belgium were also under Nazi control
So because the world was scared to get involved in another war we ended up in a quagmire for another 5 years
Am I the only person who sees the similarity ?
If Putin is not stopped dead in this tank tracks right now we will be fighting a monster for a decade
Russia is not a wealthy country wipe out the tanks & it will take 50 years to build up the fleet again
It was trying to have more weapons than the West which actually was the real reason why the USSR finally collapsed.
We like to think it was because capitalism is so much better but in reality they just spent too much on weapons and eventually ran out of money .
There should be a law that only men over 6'6" can be allowed to run for president of any country because it is the short men who give the world grief
( napoleon hitler putin ) all suffer from the small man complex .
#27
R
RolandW
We know that when the government regulates an industry, the big players in that industry immediately capture the regulatory agency. We do all know that, right? It has happened every time, all the way back to the railroads and the ICC.
R
RolandW
There's certainly plenty of blame to go around with the 737 Max tragedy. In both crashes, the trigger was a faulty angle-of-attack sensor. In the second one, the pilots should have known about MCAS and how to take back control of the aircraft when it malfunctioned. But the bottom line is that MCAS never would have existed in the first place if not for the regulatory pressure on Boeing to get the plane certified as a variant of the previous version. To avoid the added cost and delay of certifying an entirely new model, they had to prove that the Max handled just like the NG. Thus was born MCAS.Yes You don't win hearts & minds with bullets & bombs .
Lots of stories ( true or false ? ) from our Vietnam vets about locals warning them there would be an attack.
Also lots of stories about our guys building schools & rebuilding villages only to have them bombed shortly afterwards .
Dozens of orphanages in Vietnam sponsored and in some cases manned by ex OZ military .
The depths of penetration of the military suppliers into US politics is a worry.
Perfect example is the forced merger of McDonald Douglass who were bankrupt with Boeing who were run profitably.
Then the board of the failed McDonald Douglass who all should have been sacked were intergrated into Boeing, displacing 2/3 of the Boeing board .
And the net result of this was the 737 Max disaster that will push Boeing to the brink the old board would never have let that plane leave the factory because they knew how poor the pilot training in commercial airlines is.
The Mac board OTOH is used to supplying planes to military pilots trained to the nth degree so they would have no problems recognising when they had to over ride the auto pilot .
Last year I see they pinned the blame on a Boeing test pilot but no one with more than 1 functioning brain cell would believe that he was the sole person responsible when there were 8 pilots who flew the plane & the engineers knew it was an inheriently unstable design.
We know that when the government regulates an industry, the big players in that industry immediately capture the regulatory agency. We do all know that, right? It has happened every time, all the way back to the railroads and the ICC.
#28
StarTech
StarTech
to me when something like safety in aircraft depending only one sensor is plain stupid.There's certainly plenty of blame to go around with the 737 Max tragedy. In both crashes, the trigger was a faulty angle-of-attack sensor. In the second one, the pilots should have known about MCAS and how to take back control of the aircraft when it malfunctioned. But the bottom line is that MCAS never would have existed in the first place if not for the regulatory pressure on Boeing to get the plane certified as a variant of the previous version. To avoid the added cost and delay of certifying an entirely new model, they had to prove that the Max handled just like the NG. Thus was born MCAS.
We know that when the government regulates an industry, the big players in that industry immediately capture the regulatory agency. We do all know that, right? It has happened every time, all the way back to the railroads and the ICC.
#29
Hammermechanicman
Yes putin needs to be stopped. Unfortunately the generation that lived through WWll are pretty much gone and most of the population of first world countries don't have the stomach to stop putin and they think the useless UN will do the dirty work. Which won't happen. Not just one or two countries but the world needs to stop putin. The world is full of soy boy social justice warriors but no real warriors. I am not a war hawk and war is a horrible thing where people die but unless the world decides to stop him by force the mad mad with the napoleon complex will, like Bert said, continue to conquer countries. Sometimes you just have to stand and fight.
Hammermechanicman
Hitler annexes Austria & the world did nothing
Putin annexed the Georgia & the world did nothing
Hitler invaded Poland & the world did nothing
Putin invaded the Crimea & the world did nothing
Hitler invaded Denmark and the world finally realized he was a problem
By the time some opposition was ready to be mounted Norway & Belgium were also under Nazi control
So because the world was scared to get involved in another war we ended up in a quagmire for another 5 years
Am I the only person who sees the similarity ?
If Putin is not stopped dead in this tank tracks right now we will be fighting a monster for a decade
Russia is not a wealthy country wipe out the tanks & it will take 50 years to build up the fleet again
It was trying to have more weapons than the West which actually was the real reason why the USSR finally collapsed.
We like to think it was because capitalism is so much better but in reality they just spent too much on weapons and eventually ran out of money .
There should be a law that only men over 6'6" can be allowed to run for president of any country because it is the short men who give the world grief
( napoleon hitler putin ) all suffer from the small man complex .
Yes putin needs to be stopped. Unfortunately the generation that lived through WWll are pretty much gone and most of the population of first world countries don't have the stomach to stop putin and they think the useless UN will do the dirty work. Which won't happen. Not just one or two countries but the world needs to stop putin. The world is full of soy boy social justice warriors but no real warriors. I am not a war hawk and war is a horrible thing where people die but unless the world decides to stop him by force the mad mad with the napoleon complex will, like Bert said, continue to conquer countries. Sometimes you just have to stand and fight.
#30
TonyPrin
TonyPrin
I've been to Russia many times going back to the USSR and can say with certainty that Russia is not a world class anything except when it comes to nuclear weapons. There economy is a joke. Their per capita GDP is under $30,000, roughly equal to Malaysia and only 1/2 of Taiwan. Per capita GDP is ranked only around 55th in the world.
Beyond that, 150,000 troops can't control 44 million people who don't want to be controlled. In fact, of those troops, only about 2/3 are armed. The rest provide support services. So, Russia will get bogged down in Ukraine and the military will fail.
Beyond that, 150,000 troops can't control 44 million people who don't want to be controlled. In fact, of those troops, only about 2/3 are armed. The rest provide support services. So, Russia will get bogged down in Ukraine and the military will fail.
#31
B
bertsmobile1
Military pilots would have known what was happening, hit the big red button between the seats & manually corrected the flight path because they are trained properly.
Air Seat of Your Pants do not train their pilots properly because they just don't have the money to do the simulator hours & by the time they read "How to Fly This Plane For Dummies " they were already crashed.
The old Boeing management knows this & would never have delivered a plane to any airline that it was not happy with the training of the pilots .
The old Boeing management knew the consequences of loosing a plane
The McDonald Douglas management don't care because the military do not ground every plane & cancel all forward orders if one crashes & for military security reasons faults in the aircraft are never widely revealed so military aircraft crashes are always reported as pilot error or bird strikes .
B
bertsmobile1
ExactlyThere's certainly plenty of blame to go around with the 737 Max tragedy. In both crashes, the trigger was a faulty angle-of-attack sensor. In the second one, the pilots should have known about MCAS and how to take back control of the aircraft when it malfunctioned. But the bottom line is that MCAS never would have existed in the first place if not for the regulatory pressure on Boeing to get the plane certified as a variant of the previous version. To avoid the added cost and delay of certifying an entirely new model, they had to prove that the Max handled just like the NG. Thus was born MCAS.
We know that when the government regulates an industry, the big players in that industry immediately capture the regulatory agency. We do all know that, right? It has happened every time, all the way back to the railroads and the ICC.
Military pilots would have known what was happening, hit the big red button between the seats & manually corrected the flight path because they are trained properly.
Air Seat of Your Pants do not train their pilots properly because they just don't have the money to do the simulator hours & by the time they read "How to Fly This Plane For Dummies " they were already crashed.
The old Boeing management knows this & would never have delivered a plane to any airline that it was not happy with the training of the pilots .
The old Boeing management knew the consequences of loosing a plane
The McDonald Douglas management don't care because the military do not ground every plane & cancel all forward orders if one crashes & for military security reasons faults in the aircraft are never widely revealed so military aircraft crashes are always reported as pilot error or bird strikes .
#32
B
bertsmobile1
And the idea that the planet is united because they all called Putin a "very naught boy" and sent him back into his room to play with his toys is frankly a joke.
To Putin it says they are all frightened of me so I can do as I wish.
And just like Hitler, every piece of turf he grabs makes him stronger and adds resources to use building up an even bigger military .
He won't stop at the Ukrane
And look at what happened in Georgia
A president who is universally hated who stays in power by repressing any opposition and mass jailing of the population.
B
bertsmobile1
ExactlyYes putin needs to be stopped. Unfortunately the generation that lived through WWll are pretty much gone and most of the population of first world countries don't have the stomach to stop putin and they think the useless UN will do the dirty work. Which won't happen. Not just one or two countries but the world needs to stop putin. The world is full of soy boy social justice warriors but no real warriors. I am not a war hawk and war is a horrible thing where people die but unless the world decides to stop him by force the mad mad with the napoleon complex will, like Bert said, continue to conquer countries. Sometimes you just have to stand and fight.
And the idea that the planet is united because they all called Putin a "very naught boy" and sent him back into his room to play with his toys is frankly a joke.
To Putin it says they are all frightened of me so I can do as I wish.
And just like Hitler, every piece of turf he grabs makes him stronger and adds resources to use building up an even bigger military .
He won't stop at the Ukrane
And look at what happened in Georgia
A president who is universally hated who stays in power by repressing any opposition and mass jailing of the population.
#33
PTmowerMech
Like Kennedy, Putin doesn't want missiles on his doorstep.
PTmowerMech
Yep, he's not wanting other European nato countries to aid Ukraine.
Like Kennedy, Putin doesn't want missiles on his doorstep.
#34
PTmowerMech
PTmowerMech
Personally, I think we (the US) needs to mind our own business. This is shaping up to be just another war about oil. And Putin not wanting missiles on his door step.
We are still getting oil from Russia here in the US. Our fuel prices are now about $4 per gallon. While Russia is enjoying $1.92 when I checked earlier this morning.
Since we get a huge amount of fertilizer from Russia, our food prices will be up UP and away soon enough.
Biden needs to back off US oil companies, He's pissing them off. And causing the oil companies to retaliate and show him who's boss. And yet, the US oil companies are the boss, for good reason. The world turns on oil. If it wasn't for oil, most of us wouldn't have a small engine business. I can do without Biden. But I can't do without oil.
Just my two cents. (and that's about all it's worth)
We are still getting oil from Russia here in the US. Our fuel prices are now about $4 per gallon. While Russia is enjoying $1.92 when I checked earlier this morning.
Since we get a huge amount of fertilizer from Russia, our food prices will be up UP and away soon enough.
Biden needs to back off US oil companies, He's pissing them off. And causing the oil companies to retaliate and show him who's boss. And yet, the US oil companies are the boss, for good reason. The world turns on oil. If it wasn't for oil, most of us wouldn't have a small engine business. I can do without Biden. But I can't do without oil.
Just my two cents. (and that's about all it's worth)
#35
B
bertsmobile1
In fact no one wants nukes period .
They cost a fortune to make & even more to maintain then when used render captured territory useless for decades
And apart from some religious despots who see glory in their own death & the death of their fellow citizens, no one will ever deploy them .
The only real solution is UN armies and no actual country armies.
SO the entire planet needs to be demilitarised or there is no future for any of us .
The world spends 3 times as much money on making weapons & training people to use them as we do on making food.
And if you want to look at it another way 5% of the worlds greenhouse gasses are directly resultant from the military ,
And 12% of world pollution is directly attributable to military .some will take that up as high as 25% if indirect pollution is included.
And that excludes pollution generated during conflicts and damage done during conflicts .
It took Europe nearly 30 years to recover sufficaintly from WWII to be able to feed & cloth themselves ( although the Aust government thought it would go on forever )
If no one has an army or airforce, then no one needs to have a bigger one
B
bertsmobile1
No one wants missiles on their door step .Like Kennedy, Putin doesn't want missiles on his doorstep.
In fact no one wants nukes period .
They cost a fortune to make & even more to maintain then when used render captured territory useless for decades
And apart from some religious despots who see glory in their own death & the death of their fellow citizens, no one will ever deploy them .
The only real solution is UN armies and no actual country armies.
SO the entire planet needs to be demilitarised or there is no future for any of us .
The world spends 3 times as much money on making weapons & training people to use them as we do on making food.
And if you want to look at it another way 5% of the worlds greenhouse gasses are directly resultant from the military ,
And 12% of world pollution is directly attributable to military .some will take that up as high as 25% if indirect pollution is included.
And that excludes pollution generated during conflicts and damage done during conflicts .
It took Europe nearly 30 years to recover sufficaintly from WWII to be able to feed & cloth themselves ( although the Aust government thought it would go on forever )
If no one has an army or airforce, then no one needs to have a bigger one
#36
Hammermechanicman
Hammermechanicman
Eliminating all military sounds like a good idea but since man has formed clans there has been and always will be fighting forces.
If you want to see the results of of the atomic weapons age just go to the Piketon DOE plant in Portsmouth Ohio. It was a uranium enrichment facility that closed in 2001. It still has cleanup going on. The place is still dangerously radioactive and will be for a long time. Radioactive waste, the gift that keeps on giving.
In about 20,000 years some E.T. will find the earth and check it out and will say "WTF was up with these earthlings?"
But in the mean time i need to order a Briggs voltage regulator and some intake gaskets.
If you want to see the results of of the atomic weapons age just go to the Piketon DOE plant in Portsmouth Ohio. It was a uranium enrichment facility that closed in 2001. It still has cleanup going on. The place is still dangerously radioactive and will be for a long time. Radioactive waste, the gift that keeps on giving.
In about 20,000 years some E.T. will find the earth and check it out and will say "WTF was up with these earthlings?"
But in the mean time i need to order a Briggs voltage regulator and some intake gaskets.
#37
StarTech
Also think about this PT the Russian Ruble is currently worth less than a penny when compared to the US dollar. And the Ruble will be worth even less in the next few weeks if their stock ever opens again. So yes their price for fuel is going be less as they less for the initial and has extremely lower wages. You have to take in account all of the economics if you are going to be comparing apples to apples. You got realize a lot of what we pay for fuel is taxes; both Federal and State.
If we stopping buying the Russian oil some say that will just make Putin to make more money will it should have the opposite effect as he will have dump the oil in what ever of the market left for it.
And please understand it not all Biden fault either as their are at 435 guys and gals in Congress that are his bosses. And right now the Republicans are hell bent on preventing anything from getting done if Biden asks for it to be done. As the Senate is evenly split between the Democrats and the Republicans nothing will get done until this changes. It is a basic fact that if Congress stays in a stale mate nothing will ever get done. PT it is like you being the boss at home and want to get something but your wife says hell no and you have to do what she says or there is hell to pay. BTW Trump had a similar set of bosses, it was just that Republicans had control of Congress and did Trump's bidding.
It just like I can't get the Idiot Ran Service to actually fix my account problem with them that is preventing me from receiving both my stimulus and refund checks. They are currently in arrears of $3200 plus interest along with my tax refunds plus interest. That is why when I filed this year I sent no payment even though I owed $546 in taxes minus what the EIC is. Maybe that will get their attention.
I was stupid to invest the first stimulus payment before I got it trusting the Idiot Ran Service would send me the payment. At least I seen what happen and didn't borrow the rest of the later stimulus payments to invest in growing my company. Two years now and counting.
StarTech
Our oil companies have prevented fuel efficient vehicles from being made. If I can take 4 cylinder '75 Dodge Colt that was getting only 25 mpg city then make it get 45 mpg. And take '79 Chev Malibu Classic with a 365 V8 that was getting 16 mpg combined then after a few mods have it getting 22.6 combined with a highway cruise mpg of 32 mpg. Then that tell me that someone was preventing more fuel saving setups from coming to the market it. The only ones that profit for this not happening is the oil companies. I had install a mileage computer in the Malibu so it wasn't a rough guess. Just think I am not equipment engineer just a simple mechanic.Personally, I think we (the US) needs to mind our own business. This is shaping up to be just another war about oil. And Putin not wanting missiles on his door step.
We are still getting oil from Russia here in the US. Our fuel prices are now about $4 per gallon. While Russia is enjoying $1.92 when I checked earlier this morning.
Since we get a huge amount of fertilizer from Russia, our food prices will be up UP and away soon enough.
Biden needs to back off US oil companies, He's pissing them off. And causing the oil companies to retaliate and show him who's boss. And yet, the US oil companies are the boss, for good reason. The world turns on oil. If it wasn't for oil, most of us wouldn't have a small engine business. I can do without Biden. But I can't do without oil.
Just my two cents. (and that's about all it's worth)
Also think about this PT the Russian Ruble is currently worth less than a penny when compared to the US dollar. And the Ruble will be worth even less in the next few weeks if their stock ever opens again. So yes their price for fuel is going be less as they less for the initial and has extremely lower wages. You have to take in account all of the economics if you are going to be comparing apples to apples. You got realize a lot of what we pay for fuel is taxes; both Federal and State.
If we stopping buying the Russian oil some say that will just make Putin to make more money will it should have the opposite effect as he will have dump the oil in what ever of the market left for it.
And please understand it not all Biden fault either as their are at 435 guys and gals in Congress that are his bosses. And right now the Republicans are hell bent on preventing anything from getting done if Biden asks for it to be done. As the Senate is evenly split between the Democrats and the Republicans nothing will get done until this changes. It is a basic fact that if Congress stays in a stale mate nothing will ever get done. PT it is like you being the boss at home and want to get something but your wife says hell no and you have to do what she says or there is hell to pay. BTW Trump had a similar set of bosses, it was just that Republicans had control of Congress and did Trump's bidding.
It just like I can't get the Idiot Ran Service to actually fix my account problem with them that is preventing me from receiving both my stimulus and refund checks. They are currently in arrears of $3200 plus interest along with my tax refunds plus interest. That is why when I filed this year I sent no payment even though I owed $546 in taxes minus what the EIC is. Maybe that will get their attention.
I was stupid to invest the first stimulus payment before I got it trusting the Idiot Ran Service would send me the payment. At least I seen what happen and didn't borrow the rest of the later stimulus payments to invest in growing my company. Two years now and counting.
#38
redneck mechinics shop mi
redneck mechinics shop mi
as soon as im old enof air force for mePutin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert.
If this is so our governments are inching ever closer to nuclear war with Russia. Damn fools on both sides. Looks like the Russian president is hell bent on destroying the world if he don't get his way. I say we're less than half a second before Midnight right now.
#39
StarTech
Обнаружен пуск ракеты 'земля-воздух'
To enlist, you cannot be younger than 17 (18 for GED holders) or older than 39 years of age. To join as an Officer, you cannot be younger than 18 or older than 39 years of age. To join as a healthcare or ministry professional, you cannot be younger than 18 or older than 48 years of age.
StarTech
I should have known you was a blow hard since you are not even old enough to join the USAF. Hopeful you can read and/or understand Russian.as soon as im old enof air force for me
Обнаружен пуск ракеты 'земля-воздух'
To enlist, you cannot be younger than 17 (18 for GED holders) or older than 39 years of age. To join as an Officer, you cannot be younger than 18 or older than 39 years of age. To join as a healthcare or ministry professional, you cannot be younger than 18 or older than 48 years of age.
#40
PTmowerMech
Russia is going to sell his oil in Euro's, just like Saddam did. That's the only actual reason we invaded Iraq. It's the only reason we invade any country. So it seems. Our lame stream media isn't even mentioning that, because the American people won't fall for that one again. So we use the excuses that worked before. Freedom, and how bad Russia is. And everything except the truth.
What is the truth and all the details of the truth? We'll never know. Like maybe there's a connection to Hunter Biden being on the board of directors for a Ukrainian energy company, when he had no experience in energy, what so ever.
But we do know that Russia is getting off the USD in his oil trades. And that was enough to invade Iraq.
Our oil companies should buy oil from Russia, if they can get it cheap enough. It's their money, they can buy it from who ever they want.
That's like borrowing a lot of money from the bank, then filing bankruptcy for no other reason than to stiff the bank. Ukraine is already begging NATO to forgive their already existing debts. They're a spoiled brat country who can't manage their money. But because Putin is getting away from the USD, NATO (which is basically just us) is going to help them out (again)
Trade with all countries. Alliances with none. If Ukraine falls, who cares? We'll just keep trading with Russia.
BTW, if we get into a war with Russia, we'll probably have to fight China, India, Iran and maybe even North Korea. There's nothing in the world worth a war that big. Especially some little podunk country like Ukraine.
Seriously. we stand to lose 10's of thousands of American soldiers, no telling how many trillions of $$$. Probably some destruction and deaths of American cities and American citizens, for what? Ukraine? Trade and be friends with other super powers, if it's possible. And with Russia, it's very possible.
I'm no Trump fan, but Trump made accomplishments with Russia that made them closer allies. And we made money off of Russia. Russia made money off of us.
PTmowerMech
If we stopping buying the Russian oil some say that will just make Putin to make more money will it should have the opposite effect as he will have dump the oil in what ever of the market left for it.
Russia is going to sell his oil in Euro's, just like Saddam did. That's the only actual reason we invaded Iraq. It's the only reason we invade any country. So it seems. Our lame stream media isn't even mentioning that, because the American people won't fall for that one again. So we use the excuses that worked before. Freedom, and how bad Russia is. And everything except the truth.
What is the truth and all the details of the truth? We'll never know. Like maybe there's a connection to Hunter Biden being on the board of directors for a Ukrainian energy company, when he had no experience in energy, what so ever.
But we do know that Russia is getting off the USD in his oil trades. And that was enough to invade Iraq.
Our oil companies should buy oil from Russia, if they can get it cheap enough. It's their money, they can buy it from who ever they want.
Biden is the CIC. He's making it his fault with his support for a country that's as corrupt as Russia's, if not more so. Sanctions on another country is an act of war. Biden could end those sanctions. Stop sending Ukraine money and equipment. Now he's talking about sending fighter jets over there. And for what? To take up for a country that does nothing but bleed us and other NATO countries, because they don't want to pay Russia back the billions they owe Russia?And please understand it not all Biden fault either as their are at 435 guys and gals in Congress that are his bosses. And right now the Republicans are hell bent on preventing anything from getting done if Biden asks for it to be done. As the Senate is evenly split between the Democrats and the Republicans nothing will get done until this changes. It is a basic fact that if Congress stays in a stale mate nothing will ever get done. PT it is like you being the boss at home and want to get something but your wife says hell no and you have to do what she says or there is hell to pay. BTW Trump had a similar set of bosses, it was just that Republicans had control of Congress and did Trump's bidding.
That's like borrowing a lot of money from the bank, then filing bankruptcy for no other reason than to stiff the bank. Ukraine is already begging NATO to forgive their already existing debts. They're a spoiled brat country who can't manage their money. But because Putin is getting away from the USD, NATO (which is basically just us) is going to help them out (again)
Trade with all countries. Alliances with none. If Ukraine falls, who cares? We'll just keep trading with Russia.
BTW, if we get into a war with Russia, we'll probably have to fight China, India, Iran and maybe even North Korea. There's nothing in the world worth a war that big. Especially some little podunk country like Ukraine.
Seriously. we stand to lose 10's of thousands of American soldiers, no telling how many trillions of $$$. Probably some destruction and deaths of American cities and American citizens, for what? Ukraine? Trade and be friends with other super powers, if it's possible. And with Russia, it's very possible.
I'm no Trump fan, but Trump made accomplishments with Russia that made them closer allies. And we made money off of Russia. Russia made money off of us.
#41
PTmowerMech
For what? So you can let the government convince you that you need to go kill people you don't even know? For reasons you'll never really know?
You should really have a chat with a combat vet and ask him/her how they felt about killing people they didn't even know. Many of them from the latest wars in the middle east, are still pretty pissed about being lied to about why they had to go kill people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Especially after Osama was killed.
PTmowerMech
as soon as im old enof air force for me
For what? So you can let the government convince you that you need to go kill people you don't even know? For reasons you'll never really know?
You should really have a chat with a combat vet and ask him/her how they felt about killing people they didn't even know. Many of them from the latest wars in the middle east, are still pretty pissed about being lied to about why they had to go kill people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Especially after Osama was killed.
#42
StarTech
StarTech
Some people just like killing their fellow man, woman, and child. Personally it is the reason I stay out of the military service per say other than supporting locally the procurement service end by keeping their equipment repaired.
And think Putin is sitting in nice secure office ordering young men to go out and murder civilians [men, women, and children and of those soldiers are also being killed too. Just a total waste of life just please a**hole leader of a country that is so afraid to be on the front lines himself.
Yes sometimes we must defend those that can't defend themselves but it is still a waste of lives. But I don't ask someone to do something that I won't do myself.
And think Putin is sitting in nice secure office ordering young men to go out and murder civilians [men, women, and children and of those soldiers are also being killed too. Just a total waste of life just please a**hole leader of a country that is so afraid to be on the front lines himself.
Yes sometimes we must defend those that can't defend themselves but it is still a waste of lives. But I don't ask someone to do something that I won't do myself.
#43
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1 Lucky Texan
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1 Lucky Texan
"War is when Old Fools act like Children, and send Boys to die like Men"
That said, there is certainly nothing wrong with defending your own nation, or helping a close neighbor defend theirs.
That said, there is certainly nothing wrong with defending your own nation, or helping a close neighbor defend theirs.
#44
redneck mechinics shop mi
redneck mechinics shop mi
thx"War is when Old Fools act like Children, and send Boys to die like Men"
That said, there is certainly nothing wrong with defending your own nation, or helping a close neighbor defend theirs.
#45
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Problem is P'tech that we don't know where Putin will stop .
He still thinks in terms of the greater Russia which includes everything to the west probably as far as the Atlantic.
Stopping him in his tracks right now & destroying his army is the best thing that could be done for humanity & the planet & the Russian population.
Just like Hitler , the more territory he acquired the more resources at his disposal to build more gun, planes tanks & bombs
And all of this could be done with little more than some stealth attacks on the rows of tanks as the Ukranians want to fight , unlike the Afgahns who had no cause to fight for as it was just a case of which overlord .
A decisive defeat would also be politically good as it would show both Korea & China that expansionist government will not be tollerated .
Boots on the ground is always a bad idea
Air support of the locals is the best away to go .
A totally defeated Russia could then be treated the same as post WWII Japan which would allow the West to remove all of the nukes and the population to attain a much higher standard of living .
Hopefully it would also make China thing twice about an invasion of Taiwan where the US ( & OZ ) have nailed their colours to the mast so if we don't respond with military support then our word becomes worthless & every tin pot dictator will see a green light .
Politics are a tricky business .
He still thinks in terms of the greater Russia which includes everything to the west probably as far as the Atlantic.
Stopping him in his tracks right now & destroying his army is the best thing that could be done for humanity & the planet & the Russian population.
Just like Hitler , the more territory he acquired the more resources at his disposal to build more gun, planes tanks & bombs
And all of this could be done with little more than some stealth attacks on the rows of tanks as the Ukranians want to fight , unlike the Afgahns who had no cause to fight for as it was just a case of which overlord .
A decisive defeat would also be politically good as it would show both Korea & China that expansionist government will not be tollerated .
Boots on the ground is always a bad idea
Air support of the locals is the best away to go .
A totally defeated Russia could then be treated the same as post WWII Japan which would allow the West to remove all of the nukes and the population to attain a much higher standard of living .
Hopefully it would also make China thing twice about an invasion of Taiwan where the US ( & OZ ) have nailed their colours to the mast so if we don't respond with military support then our word becomes worthless & every tin pot dictator will see a green light .
Politics are a tricky business .
#46
PTmowerMech
Who knows where he's going to stop. But at the moment, he's only taking what's owed to him. We can think of Putin as someone like Hitler, who really didn't want to stop til he took over all of Europe. So assuming Putin will be the same as Hitler, is a bit far fetched at the moment. I have reason to believe he will stop before getting to NATO countries. That would be WWIII. Put doesn't have the military to fight WWIII, without China, India & Iran backing him. And since he has no legit reason to take over Poland or Germany, then there's no reason for China, India or Iran to back him.
He just wants NATO to stop trying to put missiles in Ukraine. For Ukraine to pay him back. And for Ukraine to stop trying to mess with Russia's oil getting to Europe. Ukraine charging him $4 billion per year for Russian oil to flow through Russian pipelines (through Ukraine) is ridiculous. Especially after the decades of Russia helping Ukraine stay afloat.
And then there's that whole Donbas mess. IMO, Putin is just tired of Ukraine and their entitled attitude.
PTmowerMech
Problem is P'tech that we don't know where Putin will stop .
He still thinks in terms of the greater Russia which includes everything to the west probably as far as the Atlantic.
Stopping him in his tracks right now & destroying his army is the best thing that could be done for humanity & the planet & the Russian population.
Just like Hitler , the more territory he acquired the more resources at his disposal to build more gun, planes tanks & bombs
And all of this could be done with little more than some stealth attacks on the rows of tanks as the Ukranians want to fight , unlike the Afgahns who had no cause to fight for as it was just a case of which overlord .
A decisive defeat would also be politically good as it would show both Korea & China that expansionist government will not be tollerated .
Boots on the ground is always a bad idea
Air support of the locals is the best away to go .
A totally defeated Russia could then be treated the same as post WWII Japan which would allow the West to remove all of the nukes and the population to attain a much higher standard of living .
Hopefully it would also make China thing twice about an invasion of Taiwan where the US ( & OZ ) have nailed their colours to the mast so if we don't respond with military support then our word becomes worthless & every tin pot dictator will see a green light .
Politics are a tricky business .
Who knows where he's going to stop. But at the moment, he's only taking what's owed to him. We can think of Putin as someone like Hitler, who really didn't want to stop til he took over all of Europe. So assuming Putin will be the same as Hitler, is a bit far fetched at the moment. I have reason to believe he will stop before getting to NATO countries. That would be WWIII. Put doesn't have the military to fight WWIII, without China, India & Iran backing him. And since he has no legit reason to take over Poland or Germany, then there's no reason for China, India or Iran to back him.
He just wants NATO to stop trying to put missiles in Ukraine. For Ukraine to pay him back. And for Ukraine to stop trying to mess with Russia's oil getting to Europe. Ukraine charging him $4 billion per year for Russian oil to flow through Russian pipelines (through Ukraine) is ridiculous. Especially after the decades of Russia helping Ukraine stay afloat.
And then there's that whole Donbas mess. IMO, Putin is just tired of Ukraine and their entitled attitude.
#47
StarTech
StarTech
If military is as disorganize as it seems. Some idiot in it will just start lobbing bombs in a NATO protected area at anytime. Apparently they have no honor when they start blowing up children hospitals. And they cant even honor their own military leaders crease orders.
#48
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bertsmobile1
The Ukrane has been raped & pillaged for centuries
You statement is like saying India has a debt to the UK for all the years of occupation .
If you check the set up in the USA you will find every state charges for pipelines that pass through them.
At one time every state charged tax on freight that flew over the state even if it never landed there.
I used to be required to generate better than 100 pages of various customs declariations to get stock from Sydney to NY
The way it works is Putin sends in trouble makers & stirrers who build up anti government sentiment
Then they start a movement to remove the government or find a reason why they should be an independent country.
Then insurgents get sent in to start a civil war
Then Russia moves in to protect the freedoms of the insurgents that they sent in originally.
They did this with Georgia and right now the Goergians are protesting their Russian puppet government
Similar thing is happening in Belurussia
Who owns what piece of real estate just depends on where you draw the base line
The Monguls owned the Ukrane
Turkey owned the Ukrane
The Ching Dynesty owned the Ukrane
The Tsar owned the Ukrane
the USSR owned the Ukrane
And I am sure there are more than what I know from my limited knowledge of European history .
And every one of them had different borders so it also depends upon what you consider the Ukrane actually is and who would be called a Ukranian .
America was a continent occupied by natives that belonged to a variety of nations .
No country ever became a country voluntarily
They all have their origins in conquest and a foreign person determining totally artificial borders .
The net result of that is perfectly reflected in the middle east which would be called bad at the best and a disaster at worst and most of the problems now have their roots in borders decided by a bunch of western generals post WWII for the benefit of their own countries, not the conquered natives .
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bertsmobile1
OWES HIM ?Who knows where he's going to stop. But at the moment, he's only taking what's owed to him. We can think of Putin as someone like Hitler, who really didn't want to stop til he took over all of Europe. So assuming Putin will be the same as Hitler, is a bit far fetched at the moment. I have reason to believe he will stop before getting to NATO countries. That would be WWIII. Put doesn't have the military to fight WWIII, without China, India & Iran backing him. And since he has no legit reason to take over Poland or Germany, then there's no reason for China, India or Iran to back him.
He just wants NATO to stop trying to put missiles in Ukraine. For Ukraine to pay him back. And for Ukraine to stop trying to mess with Russia's oil getting to Europe. Ukraine charging him $4 billion per year for Russian oil to flow through Russian pipelines (through Ukraine) is ridiculous. Especially after the decades of Russia helping Ukraine stay afloat.
And then there's that whole Donbas mess. IMO, Putin is just tired of Ukraine and their entitled attitude.
The Ukrane has been raped & pillaged for centuries
You statement is like saying India has a debt to the UK for all the years of occupation .
If you check the set up in the USA you will find every state charges for pipelines that pass through them.
At one time every state charged tax on freight that flew over the state even if it never landed there.
I used to be required to generate better than 100 pages of various customs declariations to get stock from Sydney to NY
The way it works is Putin sends in trouble makers & stirrers who build up anti government sentiment
Then they start a movement to remove the government or find a reason why they should be an independent country.
Then insurgents get sent in to start a civil war
Then Russia moves in to protect the freedoms of the insurgents that they sent in originally.
They did this with Georgia and right now the Goergians are protesting their Russian puppet government
Similar thing is happening in Belurussia
Who owns what piece of real estate just depends on where you draw the base line
The Monguls owned the Ukrane
Turkey owned the Ukrane
The Ching Dynesty owned the Ukrane
The Tsar owned the Ukrane
the USSR owned the Ukrane
And I am sure there are more than what I know from my limited knowledge of European history .
And every one of them had different borders so it also depends upon what you consider the Ukrane actually is and who would be called a Ukranian .
America was a continent occupied by natives that belonged to a variety of nations .
No country ever became a country voluntarily
They all have their origins in conquest and a foreign person determining totally artificial borders .
The net result of that is perfectly reflected in the middle east which would be called bad at the best and a disaster at worst and most of the problems now have their roots in borders decided by a bunch of western generals post WWII for the benefit of their own countries, not the conquered natives .
#49
PTmowerMech
Who's to say who's right or wrong about all this, really? All we know is what we get online. The MSM lies about everything. Ukraine's ancient history, even back to the 1990's, means nothing to me. All I know for sure, is that it's about $4 per gallon at the pump now. And we still have the same oil companies with the same producing wells, the same pumping pipelines that we had 2 years ago. Even some new wells that were drilled and producing AFTER Biden took office. Biden can't get American oil companies to ramp up production, just like he can't get OPEC to.
And Biden stopping Russian oil is just BS.
My only beef with the oil companies is how much control they have over our livelihoods. They have the power to make or break almost everyone's economy. IMO, that's too much control for any industry to have.
PTmowerMech
OWES HIM ?
The Ukrane has been raped & pillaged for centuries
You statement is like saying India has a debt to the UK for all the years of occupation .
If you check the set up in the USA you will find every state charges for pipelines that pass through them.
At one time every state charged tax on freight that flew over the state even if it never landed there.
I used to be required to generate better than 100 pages of various customs declariations to get stock from Sydney to NY
The way it works is Putin sends in trouble makers & stirrers who build up anti government sentiment
Then they start a movement to remove the government or find a reason why they should be an independent country.
Then insurgents get sent in to start a civil war
Then Russia moves in to protect the freedoms of the insurgents that they sent in originally.
They did this with Georgia and right now the Goergians are protesting their Russian puppet government
Similar thing is happening in Belurussia
Who owns what piece of real estate just depends on where you draw the base line
The Monguls owned the Ukrane
Turkey owned the Ukrane
The Ching Dynesty owned the Ukrane
The Tsar owned the Ukrane
the USSR owned the Ukrane
And I am sure there are more than what I know from my limited knowledge of European history .
And every one of them had different borders so it also depends upon what you consider the Ukrane actually is and who would be called a Ukranian .
America was a continent occupied by natives that belonged to a variety of nations .
No country ever became a country voluntarily
They all have their origins in conquest and a foreign person determining totally artificial borders .
The net result of that is perfectly reflected in the middle east which would be called bad at the best and a disaster at worst and most of the problems now have their roots in borders decided by a bunch of western generals post WWII for the benefit of their own countries, not the conquered natives .
Who's to say who's right or wrong about all this, really? All we know is what we get online. The MSM lies about everything. Ukraine's ancient history, even back to the 1990's, means nothing to me. All I know for sure, is that it's about $4 per gallon at the pump now. And we still have the same oil companies with the same producing wells, the same pumping pipelines that we had 2 years ago. Even some new wells that were drilled and producing AFTER Biden took office. Biden can't get American oil companies to ramp up production, just like he can't get OPEC to.
And Biden stopping Russian oil is just BS.
My only beef with the oil companies is how much control they have over our livelihoods. They have the power to make or break almost everyone's economy. IMO, that's too much control for any industry to have.
#50
StarTech
StarTech
Like Fox don't...I view/read all of the news sources as to compared the reporting of the news and avoid the opinion pieces.
As for stopping the Russian oil it is only 2% of what we in the US buys but our oil companies makes out like it is nearly all of the oil being produced and sold.
I think you might be realizing that Biden can only asked for things to be done. He is not an absolute ruler where his word is law.
As yes Bert things taxed way too much. Since I run my shop out of the two car garage here customers are calling everytime I turn around and reporting me for collecting sales tax saying I am not a licensed business. When I was in Alabama I even a sales tax inspector to come to my shop using a con to try to catch me charging sales tax without a license, boy was he fooled for not doing his research. I double his repair bill for just for trying the con job.
Bert I just don't how you guys make it because of how high the shipping charges are over there. But that is probably just a relative issue.
As for stopping the Russian oil it is only 2% of what we in the US buys but our oil companies makes out like it is nearly all of the oil being produced and sold.
I think you might be realizing that Biden can only asked for things to be done. He is not an absolute ruler where his word is law.
As yes Bert things taxed way too much. Since I run my shop out of the two car garage here customers are calling everytime I turn around and reporting me for collecting sales tax saying I am not a licensed business. When I was in Alabama I even a sales tax inspector to come to my shop using a con to try to catch me charging sales tax without a license, boy was he fooled for not doing his research. I double his repair bill for just for trying the con job.
Bert I just don't how you guys make it because of how high the shipping charges are over there. But that is probably just a relative issue.
#51
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Fuel prices have almost nothing to do with governments apart from any taxes that are levied on fuels.
Petrol refineries & chemical plants buy oil futures just sufficient to cover their projected future output .
Speculators then move in a buy the excess futures in the hope that refineries will run short so the speculators can charge them a motza
However it is illegal for the oil producers to sell directly to the refineries , it all has to go through the futures exchanges so when there looks like being a problem with supply the speculators move in and push the price up in order to make massive short term profits .
So it is hedge funds, investment funds & pension funds that jack up the price .
The refineries are always trying to get crude for the lowest possible price so for them in times like this they drop futures & buy on the spot market on a daily basis.
During covid the speculators all got burned and had to pay for oil that they could not on sell and could not store either as all of the storeage space availible was full .
As with a lot of things it is all of the middle men and screen jockies that are setting the price .
The oil producers want to get the highest price they can for their oil because it is a finite resource so once it is all pumped, there is no more ,
A command driven economy will always exploit fear & panic .
If you owned 10 rental properties & the next town got flooded so hundreds of people were looking for accomodation while they rebuilt, do you offer them a discount because they are needy or jack the price up because 90 of them will miss out so will be willing to pay more ?
Petrol refineries & chemical plants buy oil futures just sufficient to cover their projected future output .
Speculators then move in a buy the excess futures in the hope that refineries will run short so the speculators can charge them a motza
However it is illegal for the oil producers to sell directly to the refineries , it all has to go through the futures exchanges so when there looks like being a problem with supply the speculators move in and push the price up in order to make massive short term profits .
So it is hedge funds, investment funds & pension funds that jack up the price .
The refineries are always trying to get crude for the lowest possible price so for them in times like this they drop futures & buy on the spot market on a daily basis.
During covid the speculators all got burned and had to pay for oil that they could not on sell and could not store either as all of the storeage space availible was full .
As with a lot of things it is all of the middle men and screen jockies that are setting the price .
The oil producers want to get the highest price they can for their oil because it is a finite resource so once it is all pumped, there is no more ,
A command driven economy will always exploit fear & panic .
If you owned 10 rental properties & the next town got flooded so hundreds of people were looking for accomodation while they rebuilt, do you offer them a discount because they are needy or jack the price up because 90 of them will miss out so will be willing to pay more ?
#52
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bertsmobile1
In fact I have gone with then to throw rotten eggs over the walls of the Russian embassy ( actually it was the USSR embassy back then ) and this was in the 70's .
Like Star , I do not watch nor listen to opinion pieces , which are usually about the opinions of some one elses opinions .
Al Jazeera have been giving excellent coverage including pulling apart the BS being posted on line .
Over 60% of the footage shown on mainstream TV was not from the conflict & most had been pulled off the wen and they showed where it came from .
Some scenes of devistation were from Syria , one of the bomber formations was actually a US air show & another was from a French air show & another from a May Day Parade.
Some of the tank footage came from Afghanistan
better than 90% of what had been posted from places other than the Ukrane were also faked
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bertsmobile1
You obviously have never worked with any Ukranian refugees , I have .Who's to say who's right or wrong about all this, really? All we know is what we get online. The MSM lies about everything. Ukraine's ancient history, even back to the 1990's, means nothing to me. All I know for sure, is that it's about $4 per gallon at the pump now. And we still have the same oil companies with the same producing wells, the same pumping pipelines that we had 2 years ago. Even some new wells that were drilled and producing AFTER Biden took office. Biden can't get American oil companies to ramp up production, just like he can't get OPEC to.
And Biden stopping Russian oil is just BS.
My only beef with the oil companies is how much control they have over our livelihoods. They have the power to make or break almost everyone's economy. IMO, that's too much control for any industry to have.
In fact I have gone with then to throw rotten eggs over the walls of the Russian embassy ( actually it was the USSR embassy back then ) and this was in the 70's .
Like Star , I do not watch nor listen to opinion pieces , which are usually about the opinions of some one elses opinions .
Al Jazeera have been giving excellent coverage including pulling apart the BS being posted on line .
Over 60% of the footage shown on mainstream TV was not from the conflict & most had been pulled off the wen and they showed where it came from .
Some scenes of devistation were from Syria , one of the bomber formations was actually a US air show & another was from a French air show & another from a May Day Parade.
Some of the tank footage came from Afghanistan
better than 90% of what had been posted from places other than the Ukrane were also faked
#53
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bertsmobile1
Lazy finance companies will invest in real estate happily but no chance to get money for manufacturing
Add to that a government that actually believes than manufacturing is a low end economy and a services based economy is the sign of a mature sofisticated economy
Highly racist to imply that the Chinese can not count, teach or argue a case in court .
it costs $ 5000 ( aus ) to get a container from China dock to dock
It costs $ 7,000 to get one from Longbeach
It cost $ 2000 to send one to China & $ 4,000 to send one to longbeach
The biggest manufactured export from Australia is empty containers going back to China
B
bertsmobile1
The problem is too many people trying to make too much money from too small a turnoverBert I just don't how you guys make it because of how high the shipping charges are over there. But that is probably just a relative issue.
Lazy finance companies will invest in real estate happily but no chance to get money for manufacturing
Add to that a government that actually believes than manufacturing is a low end economy and a services based economy is the sign of a mature sofisticated economy
Highly racist to imply that the Chinese can not count, teach or argue a case in court .
it costs $ 5000 ( aus ) to get a container from China dock to dock
It costs $ 7,000 to get one from Longbeach
It cost $ 2000 to send one to China & $ 4,000 to send one to longbeach
The biggest manufactured export from Australia is empty containers going back to China
#54
D
deck~dragger
D
deck~dragger
Yes, the Ezekiel prophesies and Revelation.We can be ready to go when that time comes. Put our trust in God and believe in him and he will save us. No matter the out come.
#55
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MowManWV
Um no. It's NATO that's been expanding, not the Warsaw Pact. In fact, NATO's stated mission ended when the Soviet Union collapsed.
Also, where was the world reaction and banning of us when we invaded a soverign nation and killed 1 million of its people? Remember the invasion of Iraq in 2003? We invaded a nation, on the (later proven) false pretext that "they helped on 911" and "had weapons of mass destruction" (that we never found). Literally 1 million civilians were killed and Iran gained a proxy state when "free elections" deposed the moderate Suni Muslims and replaced them with majority (Iranian) Shiites. Good going USA!
Here's my take. NATO should have been dissolved when the Soviet Union collapsed. It's nothing more than a cash cow that uses the USA as a strong man. USA supplies the bulk of "NATO forces" and has been for some time. When the last President tried to get Europe to pay their minimum NATO fees it was called "racist."
Europe buys most of its energy from Russia. THEY DO NOT "FEAR PUTIN." If they did Germany would not have shut down its nuke plants a few years ago. When a nation fears another neighbor, they don't remain dependent on them for energy and they expand their military. Europe did neither.
Mass media is straight up pushing for a war with Russia. One of my two idiot state senators straight up called for a "no fly zone" WITH A NUCLEAR ARMED POWER. You can bully little countries like Iraq with that but you can't do that with a country that can ERASE your nation. Just one US city nuked and our fake currency would collapse that day. How much food you got stored up? You have access to your own water and sewer?
I hate that Russia invaded Ukraine and if I was still a young man I'd have made my way there by now. Anyone that wants to fight can actually do just that. Go to Poland, walk across the border, swear your allegiance to Zelensky and stay until he says you can go home (and that's exactly how it works). A close friend of mine has former coworkers literally in Ukraine, fighting right now. Go join them.
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MowManWV
Putin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert.
If this is so our governments are inching ever closer to nuclear war with Russia. Damn fools on both sides. Looks like the Russian president is hell bent on destroying the world if he don't get his way. I say we're less than half a second before Midnight right now.
Um no. It's NATO that's been expanding, not the Warsaw Pact. In fact, NATO's stated mission ended when the Soviet Union collapsed.
Also, where was the world reaction and banning of us when we invaded a soverign nation and killed 1 million of its people? Remember the invasion of Iraq in 2003? We invaded a nation, on the (later proven) false pretext that "they helped on 911" and "had weapons of mass destruction" (that we never found). Literally 1 million civilians were killed and Iran gained a proxy state when "free elections" deposed the moderate Suni Muslims and replaced them with majority (Iranian) Shiites. Good going USA!
Here's my take. NATO should have been dissolved when the Soviet Union collapsed. It's nothing more than a cash cow that uses the USA as a strong man. USA supplies the bulk of "NATO forces" and has been for some time. When the last President tried to get Europe to pay their minimum NATO fees it was called "racist."
Europe buys most of its energy from Russia. THEY DO NOT "FEAR PUTIN." If they did Germany would not have shut down its nuke plants a few years ago. When a nation fears another neighbor, they don't remain dependent on them for energy and they expand their military. Europe did neither.
Mass media is straight up pushing for a war with Russia. One of my two idiot state senators straight up called for a "no fly zone" WITH A NUCLEAR ARMED POWER. You can bully little countries like Iraq with that but you can't do that with a country that can ERASE your nation. Just one US city nuked and our fake currency would collapse that day. How much food you got stored up? You have access to your own water and sewer?
I hate that Russia invaded Ukraine and if I was still a young man I'd have made my way there by now. Anyone that wants to fight can actually do just that. Go to Poland, walk across the border, swear your allegiance to Zelensky and stay until he says you can go home (and that's exactly how it works). A close friend of mine has former coworkers literally in Ukraine, fighting right now. Go join them.
#56
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MowManWV
M
MowManWV
A world war would do one BIG thing and that is cover up the absolute fail of the fiat currency America has had since the early 1970's. At least the Russia ruble has real value........it's literally worth what the dollar used to be worth, which is gold.
Also, notice how quickly "Covid" went away? And the ones that pushed the hardest for lockdowns and forced vaccinations are the same ones calling for a world war with Russia. It's almost like their minds are controlled by mass media or something. Huh.
Also, notice how quickly "Covid" went away? And the ones that pushed the hardest for lockdowns and forced vaccinations are the same ones calling for a world war with Russia. It's almost like their minds are controlled by mass media or something. Huh.
#57
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bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
NATO has been expanding because the countries around Russia do not trust the Russian government, for good reason.
Putin is trying to reinvent to grand old Soviet Union just like Hitler was trying to "return Germany to it's former glory"
The only difference is he invades to "protect the Russians " then after committing genoside on a massive scale installs a puppet government on the proviso they do what they are told or else.
Look at the situation in Belaruse , population hate the president yet he got voted in with a massive majority ,, smells funny ?
Then Georgia was just the same
Putin wants the Donbas because that is where the mineral wealth is
They exterminated just about all of the indigenous Tartars who were Jewish then replaced them Russian immigrants who of course need to be protected from nasty Nazi Ukranian government .
Same thing that China did toTibet .
And yes the Ukrane did side with Hitler as he was a lesser of two evils , murdered by a facist dictator or murdered by a communist dictator .
As for Iraq, that was all about protecting the US dollar
Saddam had already put some trial futures on the Munich oil futures exchange & threatened to move all of them over to Munich.
He released the second bunch which accounted for 75% of Iraq's output and the US invaded within a week.
If Iraq remained on the Munich exchange the US dollar could have dropped near 30% which would have sent the USA into recession because the main thing that holds the US dollar value is the oil that the whole world buys on the NY futures exchange.
However the big difference to the Ukrane is the population wanted Saddam gone so to a large extent the population was already behind the USA ( and Australia ) . However the arrogant attitude of the US to the population & the absence of any plan about what to do after Saddam was gone ( points towards the invasion not being a forward planned event ) quickly turned the hearts & minds of the population against the occupiers .
Driving around in armoured vehicles in a Islamic country flying christian cross flags was never going get the population on side and installing a puppet president who was kicked out because the population hated him was never going to work either .
The only reason the Ruble is worth anything right now is because China is buying them at a rate of knots and because from the day the USSR was dissolved Russia had been buying gold at breakneck speed along with China .
China has also set up an oil futures market . Part & parcel of accepting financial aid from China is to shift your oil purchases from the USA to China .
And Covid has not gone away
It has done what all successful viruses do .
The variants that killed the host died out because we isolated them to prevent this happening.
The more contageous variants with fewer deaths are now flourishing which is exactly the same as influenza has done
And like flue we have vaccines that counter the worst infections and lower the infection rate .
When Coid was killing hundreds of people down here it was the ONLY news story
Now the daily death rates are 10 to 30 and not considered to be newsworthy compared to thousands of deaths in the Ukrane & of course all the ghoulish photos of destruction with the stories of mass atrosities .
You need to remember that the prime objective of mass media is to sell advertising .
Advertising results get measured all day every day
Your mind is most receptive to information is an anxious or depressed state
So mass media deliberately reports on things that will make you angry or depressed over things that are likely to make you feel happy .
Or as Rupet was reported to have said when Fox predicted ( correctly ) a Biden victory
"I don't want you to broadcast the truth, I want you to broadcast what our subscribers pay to hear "
Apparently near 80% of the Fox subscribers are Republicans so they ran with the story that republicans wanted to hear, President Trump was re-elected and Bidon stole the election by fraudilent means .
Where the simple truth was that postal voting had allowed voters who would be intimidated by attending a polling booth could cast a free vote for the first time.
And this is not a shot at Repubicans , both parties actively rig the vote because the USA does not have an Electorial Commission to run elections that are in fact free & fair so booth are placed where the population is likely to vote the way the State governor want them to and those who are not likely to are discoursged by fewer polling places or placing obsticales to prevent voter registrations .
By and large , pre-polling down here heavily favours conservative parties , polling booths generally follow the predictions according to the demography of the voters in that area and postal votes heavily support the Labour party ( sort of close to your Democrats )
So from down here the results were almost text book about what would be expected .
But of course all this is uncharted waters to USA citizens and a conspiracy is always more acceptable to who ever lost than the fact they lost fair & square .
If you have postal votes in your next election you will see the results will be very similar to the last election .
If you think about it , it makes perfect sense
Those too busy making money to line up at a booth will vote early some where that has no que
Those who have things that make it difficult to attend a booth are very likely to be on some sort of benefit thus likely to vote Democrat
Individual booths will favour the demography of the booths site.
So if for instance the Democrats control the state there will be a lot of booths where they are likely to win and very few where they are likely to loose
Because the potential winning booths will have fewer votes to count per booth ( because there are more of them ) their count will be completed earlier than the booth where a lot more voters had to attend in the hope they would get bored & go away so the booths that take longer to count will tend to favour the Republicans . Thus when 75% or more of the booths have been counted and the Democrat candidate has a clear win with 65% of the vote then when the final few booths are finished counting suddenly the Republican candidate takes the seat with 55% of the vote the natural tendency is to call foul play because it is hard to comprehend how some one with a lead of 15% can end up being 5% behind .
Putin is trying to reinvent to grand old Soviet Union just like Hitler was trying to "return Germany to it's former glory"
The only difference is he invades to "protect the Russians " then after committing genoside on a massive scale installs a puppet government on the proviso they do what they are told or else.
Look at the situation in Belaruse , population hate the president yet he got voted in with a massive majority ,, smells funny ?
Then Georgia was just the same
Putin wants the Donbas because that is where the mineral wealth is
They exterminated just about all of the indigenous Tartars who were Jewish then replaced them Russian immigrants who of course need to be protected from nasty Nazi Ukranian government .
Same thing that China did toTibet .
And yes the Ukrane did side with Hitler as he was a lesser of two evils , murdered by a facist dictator or murdered by a communist dictator .
As for Iraq, that was all about protecting the US dollar
Saddam had already put some trial futures on the Munich oil futures exchange & threatened to move all of them over to Munich.
He released the second bunch which accounted for 75% of Iraq's output and the US invaded within a week.
If Iraq remained on the Munich exchange the US dollar could have dropped near 30% which would have sent the USA into recession because the main thing that holds the US dollar value is the oil that the whole world buys on the NY futures exchange.
However the big difference to the Ukrane is the population wanted Saddam gone so to a large extent the population was already behind the USA ( and Australia ) . However the arrogant attitude of the US to the population & the absence of any plan about what to do after Saddam was gone ( points towards the invasion not being a forward planned event ) quickly turned the hearts & minds of the population against the occupiers .
Driving around in armoured vehicles in a Islamic country flying christian cross flags was never going get the population on side and installing a puppet president who was kicked out because the population hated him was never going to work either .
The only reason the Ruble is worth anything right now is because China is buying them at a rate of knots and because from the day the USSR was dissolved Russia had been buying gold at breakneck speed along with China .
China has also set up an oil futures market . Part & parcel of accepting financial aid from China is to shift your oil purchases from the USA to China .
And Covid has not gone away
It has done what all successful viruses do .
The variants that killed the host died out because we isolated them to prevent this happening.
The more contageous variants with fewer deaths are now flourishing which is exactly the same as influenza has done
And like flue we have vaccines that counter the worst infections and lower the infection rate .
When Coid was killing hundreds of people down here it was the ONLY news story
Now the daily death rates are 10 to 30 and not considered to be newsworthy compared to thousands of deaths in the Ukrane & of course all the ghoulish photos of destruction with the stories of mass atrosities .
You need to remember that the prime objective of mass media is to sell advertising .
Advertising results get measured all day every day
Your mind is most receptive to information is an anxious or depressed state
So mass media deliberately reports on things that will make you angry or depressed over things that are likely to make you feel happy .
Or as Rupet was reported to have said when Fox predicted ( correctly ) a Biden victory
"I don't want you to broadcast the truth, I want you to broadcast what our subscribers pay to hear "
Apparently near 80% of the Fox subscribers are Republicans so they ran with the story that republicans wanted to hear, President Trump was re-elected and Bidon stole the election by fraudilent means .
Where the simple truth was that postal voting had allowed voters who would be intimidated by attending a polling booth could cast a free vote for the first time.
And this is not a shot at Repubicans , both parties actively rig the vote because the USA does not have an Electorial Commission to run elections that are in fact free & fair so booth are placed where the population is likely to vote the way the State governor want them to and those who are not likely to are discoursged by fewer polling places or placing obsticales to prevent voter registrations .
By and large , pre-polling down here heavily favours conservative parties , polling booths generally follow the predictions according to the demography of the voters in that area and postal votes heavily support the Labour party ( sort of close to your Democrats )
So from down here the results were almost text book about what would be expected .
But of course all this is uncharted waters to USA citizens and a conspiracy is always more acceptable to who ever lost than the fact they lost fair & square .
If you have postal votes in your next election you will see the results will be very similar to the last election .
If you think about it , it makes perfect sense
Those too busy making money to line up at a booth will vote early some where that has no que
Those who have things that make it difficult to attend a booth are very likely to be on some sort of benefit thus likely to vote Democrat
Individual booths will favour the demography of the booths site.
So if for instance the Democrats control the state there will be a lot of booths where they are likely to win and very few where they are likely to loose
Because the potential winning booths will have fewer votes to count per booth ( because there are more of them ) their count will be completed earlier than the booth where a lot more voters had to attend in the hope they would get bored & go away so the booths that take longer to count will tend to favour the Republicans . Thus when 75% or more of the booths have been counted and the Democrat candidate has a clear win with 65% of the vote then when the final few booths are finished counting suddenly the Republican candidate takes the seat with 55% of the vote the natural tendency is to call foul play because it is hard to comprehend how some one with a lead of 15% can end up being 5% behind .
#58
sgkent
sgkent
If someone believes genocide is acceptable then the war can be acceptable to them. But,for most people, they realize that genocide is unacceptable, and when a bully attacks someone it is just a matter of time before they are next, regardless how much of a friend they think they are with the bully. What puzzles me is that every photo of Putin sitting with his staff, there is a huge table with a quarter mile between him and his staff. I almost expect to see a bull horn next to him so he can talk to them. What is up with that?
#59
StarTech
Oh Covid is still, just not much as we learn to take precautions. I actually been healthier because of the precautions that I take.
Personally there is a lot people that more afraid of the vaccine because of all the lies on the internet. I am for one that I think am better trying to protect myself against the virus by getting the vaccine. Everybody can make their own choice when it comes to this.
And do you really believe that China is calling for a war with Russia? They are one of the countries with the tightest Covid lock downs in the world yet it still spreads because the people are so resistance to getting the vaccine that can at least reduce the spread. But yes the internet (one of the mass media sources) is just full of lies from those that wants to do more harm than good. Most people will believe a lie before the truth. They get basically brainwashed by these sources because they are too lazy to think for themselves.
All of the world's currency is shrinking value. It is the people own fault in one sense as they want more and more for their product. This includes labor. This becomes a vicious cycle as if someone has pay more than they pass those costs along to next person. As currency valve it all depends on demand for it. Right now most of the world don't want the ruble which is why it has hit rock bottom value wise.
Right now I can see my costs going up daily with me having to pass it along to the next customer. Some my tools for example have nearly double in cost in the last three years. Just yesterday I was looking at two jaw pullers that can spread nearly 10 inches. Boy have they gotten expensive.
As voting as I know I am fighting a losing battle but I still go and vote hoping that by some miracle the person I vote for actually wins. I vote just to have the valid reason to complain as I see those that don't vote has not the right to complain as they did not do their part. It is still very big challenge to weed through all the lies to pick someone that I think that would actually do what they say will do. But if we don't have free and fair elections then there is no true election; just a fake election. Some of the governments out there is just like this by changing the election result to suit their setup.
StarTech
Must be one of those that don't Covid-19 is real. Well several my customers and at least two of my competitors has died from it. My machinist nearly died from it because some idiot at his work place had it and came to work to intentionally spread it. Over half of the shop came down with it. I was lucky as I am loner and even then I was cautious when customers came around as well as they were.A world war would do one BIG thing and that is cover up the absolute fail of the fiat currency America has had since the early 1970's. At least the Russia ruble has real value........it's literally worth what the dollar used to be worth, which is gold.
Also, notice how quickly "Covid" went away? And the ones that pushed the hardest for lockdowns and forced vaccinations are the same ones calling for a world war with Russia. It's almost like their minds are controlled by mass media or something. Huh.
Oh Covid is still, just not much as we learn to take precautions. I actually been healthier because of the precautions that I take.
Personally there is a lot people that more afraid of the vaccine because of all the lies on the internet. I am for one that I think am better trying to protect myself against the virus by getting the vaccine. Everybody can make their own choice when it comes to this.
And do you really believe that China is calling for a war with Russia? They are one of the countries with the tightest Covid lock downs in the world yet it still spreads because the people are so resistance to getting the vaccine that can at least reduce the spread. But yes the internet (one of the mass media sources) is just full of lies from those that wants to do more harm than good. Most people will believe a lie before the truth. They get basically brainwashed by these sources because they are too lazy to think for themselves.
All of the world's currency is shrinking value. It is the people own fault in one sense as they want more and more for their product. This includes labor. This becomes a vicious cycle as if someone has pay more than they pass those costs along to next person. As currency valve it all depends on demand for it. Right now most of the world don't want the ruble which is why it has hit rock bottom value wise.
Right now I can see my costs going up daily with me having to pass it along to the next customer. Some my tools for example have nearly double in cost in the last three years. Just yesterday I was looking at two jaw pullers that can spread nearly 10 inches. Boy have they gotten expensive.
As voting as I know I am fighting a losing battle but I still go and vote hoping that by some miracle the person I vote for actually wins. I vote just to have the valid reason to complain as I see those that don't vote has not the right to complain as they did not do their part. It is still very big challenge to weed through all the lies to pick someone that I think that would actually do what they say will do. But if we don't have free and fair elections then there is no true election; just a fake election. Some of the governments out there is just like this by changing the election result to suit their setup.
#60
StarTech
StarTech
Kinda reminds me of a person afraid of germs. It also appears he is afraid even of his own support staff. Either that or he farting all the time and his staff just can't stand the stink.If someone believes genocide is acceptable then the war can be acceptable to them. But,for most people, they realize that genocide is unacceptable, and when a bully attacks someone it is just a matter of time before they are next, regardless how much of a friend they think they are with the bully. What puzzles me is that every photo of Putin sitting with his staff, there is a huge table with a quarter mile between him and his staff. I almost expect to see a bull horn next to him so he can talk to them. What is up with that?
#61
KM Richards
KM Richards
Can you imagine parents with the last name Pootin naming their kid Glad I'm Here?
When he introduces himself to people, it sounds like he's saying "I'm glad I'm here pootin"
No wonder this guy is an angry man!
When he introduces himself to people, it sounds like he's saying "I'm glad I'm here pootin"
No wonder this guy is an angry man!
#62
KM Richards
KM Richards
Quote - ""But,for most people, they realize that genocide is unacceptable""
Yeah, so this time around lets let the rest of the world go fight the nutjob... the US has been covering the world's backside for a long, long time... we need to start taking care of our own country before it is lost
Yeah, so this time around lets let the rest of the world go fight the nutjob... the US has been covering the world's backside for a long, long time... we need to start taking care of our own country before it is lost
#63
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
Sounds different when you speak Russian.Can you imagine parents with the last name Pootin naming their kid Glad I'm Here?
When he introduces himself to people, it sounds like he's saying "I'm glad I'm here pootin"
No wonder this guy is an angry man!
#64
B
bertsmobile1
A difficult problem & President Putin has been planning this for decades.
He has gone a long way to divide & destroy the USA by his support for President Trump knowing how President rump would split the nation.
Then he has been selling oil & wheat very cheaply for a long while by supressing the value of the Ruble ( same thing China is doing ) .
Then he has been acquiring a massive amount of Gold ( same as China) so as the Ruble drops in value and the dollar takes a dive he can fall back on the gold reserves .
HE really is a long term player & rat cunning.
The only reason he did not susceed is he ignored the good intelligence he was getting from his department in favour of the B S that the seperatist he sent into the Ukrane had been telling him in order for them to get more money & support .
he Ukrane will eventually become part of Russia , Putin needs the minerals in the Donbas and President Putin does not care how many people are killed .
He has 155,000,000 in hand and loosing 50,000,000 or so is not problem to him in fact it would be an advantage as the Russian economy is basically a resources economy and you don't need a big population to sell gas, oil, petrolium derrived fertalizers wheat & soy to the rest of the world .
The Ukrane will run out of soldiers well before Russia will so the rest of the world is going to decide what to do when that happens , because it will happen .
B
bertsmobile1
While I don't think he will pull the big ref trigger remember his "nut job" is sitting on the second largest arsonal of nuclear weapons on the planet .Quote - ""But,for most people, they realize that genocide is unacceptable""
Yeah, so this time around lets let the rest of the world go fight the nutjob... the US has been covering the world's backside for a long, long time... we need to start taking care of our own country before it is lost
A difficult problem & President Putin has been planning this for decades.
He has gone a long way to divide & destroy the USA by his support for President Trump knowing how President rump would split the nation.
Then he has been selling oil & wheat very cheaply for a long while by supressing the value of the Ruble ( same thing China is doing ) .
Then he has been acquiring a massive amount of Gold ( same as China) so as the Ruble drops in value and the dollar takes a dive he can fall back on the gold reserves .
HE really is a long term player & rat cunning.
The only reason he did not susceed is he ignored the good intelligence he was getting from his department in favour of the B S that the seperatist he sent into the Ukrane had been telling him in order for them to get more money & support .
he Ukrane will eventually become part of Russia , Putin needs the minerals in the Donbas and President Putin does not care how many people are killed .
He has 155,000,000 in hand and loosing 50,000,000 or so is not problem to him in fact it would be an advantage as the Russian economy is basically a resources economy and you don't need a big population to sell gas, oil, petrolium derrived fertalizers wheat & soy to the rest of the world .
The Ukrane will run out of soldiers well before Russia will so the rest of the world is going to decide what to do when that happens , because it will happen .
#65
KM Richards
We can prepare for what happens to us after death... which is something every one should be doing anyway since we're all going to die eventually whether there is nuclear war or not.
KM Richards
This is true but, there is nothing you & I can do about it....
We can prepare for what happens to us after death... which is something every one should be doing anyway since we're all going to die eventually whether there is nuclear war or not.
#66
B
bertsmobile1
1) shot , arrived DOA at casulty
2) electrocuted , revived on site by night watchman
3) road accident & bled out on the side of the road & again revived in casulty .
I can definately say , nothing happens after you die, if you can not be revived then you are dead & it all ends there .
What happens while you are dieing is riveting interesting but also perfectly logical if you have an open mind and a basic understanding of biology.
When you don't understand things you make up stuff to explain it
If you want to believe otherwise and that makes you feel good then you are welcome to do it .
Humans are just another species of animal on the planet
And the only one that is not necessary for the planet to continue to function
And also the only one that is actively & wilfully destroying the planet for the short term financial gain of a tiny fraction of the population .
B
bertsmobile1
Having been "dead" on 3 separate occasions .We can prepare for what happens to us after death... which is something every one should be doing anyway since we're all going to die eventually whether there is nuclear war or not.
1) shot , arrived DOA at casulty
2) electrocuted , revived on site by night watchman
3) road accident & bled out on the side of the road & again revived in casulty .
I can definately say , nothing happens after you die, if you can not be revived then you are dead & it all ends there .
What happens while you are dieing is riveting interesting but also perfectly logical if you have an open mind and a basic understanding of biology.
When you don't understand things you make up stuff to explain it
If you want to believe otherwise and that makes you feel good then you are welcome to do it .
Humans are just another species of animal on the planet
And the only one that is not necessary for the planet to continue to function
And also the only one that is actively & wilfully destroying the planet for the short term financial gain of a tiny fraction of the population .
#67
KM Richards
But, you're still here... so obviously you did NOT actually die.
Dying is when you don't come back.
You were just unconscious and they told you your body was not functioning for a few seconds.
One day you will actually die and never come back... and you will be Shocked!
KM Richards
nothing happens after you die
But, you're still here... so obviously you did NOT actually die.
Dying is when you don't come back.
You were just unconscious and they told you your body was not functioning for a few seconds.
One day you will actually die and never come back... and you will be Shocked!
#68
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
All depends upon what you call dead
When a machine is doing your breathing & pumping your blood, clinically you are in fact dead .
A comma is a dead body that can no longer run itself which may or may not still have electrical brain activity .
My father died during a failed stent surgery .
He was kept in ICU for 14 days so his death would be attributed to the hospital and not the surgical team .
We was warm to the touch and responded to things like holding his hand but he was as dead as the DoDo .
If we had the money he could have stayed in that situation forever
I had to under go Near Death counciling after two of them before I could get a return to work certificate.
There was a markedly difference between the deeply religious & the non religious in these sessions .
The bulk of the non religious accepted the reasoning behind every thing they experienced , the "out of body" experience can be recreated with drugs and some had to under go this therapy before they came good .
The only thing that was not explained to my satisfaction was the death chimes.
Everyone heard the same chords , regardless of their age , race or religious beliefs .
This means it is a body architecture thing but it makes no sense as sounds are generated by your brain in response to stimulations in your ears .
However mostly it was the deeply religious who really got their heads messed up.
Some had been in counceling for years but were still not able to function mentally
And the deeper they were in religion the worse their heads were .
And this was regardless of which deity they believed in .
The buddists seemed to be far worse than any other religion as they seemed to have a rejection / failure complex .
When a machine is doing your breathing & pumping your blood, clinically you are in fact dead .
A comma is a dead body that can no longer run itself which may or may not still have electrical brain activity .
My father died during a failed stent surgery .
He was kept in ICU for 14 days so his death would be attributed to the hospital and not the surgical team .
We was warm to the touch and responded to things like holding his hand but he was as dead as the DoDo .
If we had the money he could have stayed in that situation forever
I had to under go Near Death counciling after two of them before I could get a return to work certificate.
There was a markedly difference between the deeply religious & the non religious in these sessions .
The bulk of the non religious accepted the reasoning behind every thing they experienced , the "out of body" experience can be recreated with drugs and some had to under go this therapy before they came good .
The only thing that was not explained to my satisfaction was the death chimes.
Everyone heard the same chords , regardless of their age , race or religious beliefs .
This means it is a body architecture thing but it makes no sense as sounds are generated by your brain in response to stimulations in your ears .
However mostly it was the deeply religious who really got their heads messed up.
Some had been in counceling for years but were still not able to function mentally
And the deeper they were in religion the worse their heads were .
And this was regardless of which deity they believed in .
The buddists seemed to be far worse than any other religion as they seemed to have a rejection / failure complex .
#69
KM Richards
I covered that... dead is when you do not return to planet earth...
KM Richards
All depends upon what you call dead
I covered that... dead is when you do not return to planet earth...
#70
B
bertsmobile1
Ashes to ashes dust to dust
B
bertsmobile1
You never leave itI covered that... dead is when you do not return to planet earth...
Ashes to ashes dust to dust
#71
KM Richards
KM Richards
When the future gets here... you'll see!
#72
M
MowManWV
M
MowManWV
Saw today that only 40% of US funds sent to Ukraine go to buying arms.
My gut tells me most of the funding for Ukraine goes into someone's pocket, likely the pockets of those whose idea it was to send the money!
My gut tells me most of the funding for Ukraine goes into someone's pocket, likely the pockets of those whose idea it was to send the money!
#73
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
AFAIK the government to government aid is in hard goods
I know we have sent a lot of Bushmasters and several hundred thousand rounds of ammo.
I think what you are seeing is a breakdown of the cash sent to Ukranian relief funds purchases.
According to Al-Geezra news ( which seems to be the most accurate & least biased ) the bulk of the US aid is again in hard weapons & ammo
Now weather congress is authorising X billion $ in aid and that money goes to US weapons makers but the value of the weaponary sent is only 40% of X , that is a different matter
I know we have sent a lot of Bushmasters and several hundred thousand rounds of ammo.
I think what you are seeing is a breakdown of the cash sent to Ukranian relief funds purchases.
According to Al-Geezra news ( which seems to be the most accurate & least biased ) the bulk of the US aid is again in hard weapons & ammo
Now weather congress is authorising X billion $ in aid and that money goes to US weapons makers but the value of the weaponary sent is only 40% of X , that is a different matter
#74
KM Richards
KM Richards
Yeah, something is hinky about spending all this money on Ukraine... they need to send me a few million.
They'll never miss it!
They'll never miss it!
#75
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
It is a lot cheaper to sent people who want to fight weapons than sending in troops .
In the long run it will probably be futile because Putin is fighting a traditional Russian war
Just keep on sending in troops till the other side is all dead or runs out of ammo
And that is how Russia has fought every war from the time of Peter the Great.
In the long run it will probably be futile because Putin is fighting a traditional Russian war
Just keep on sending in troops till the other side is all dead or runs out of ammo
And that is how Russia has fought every war from the time of Peter the Great.
#76
KM Richards
KM Richards
Yeah, they keep talkin bout "we must protect democracy" as the reason for helping Ukraine.
But, they don't want to help Taiwan which is also a democracy
I( suppose that's a good thing cause China would destroy the US in an all out war. We would be toast with our woke military and no defense for their super sonic missle
But, they don't want to help Taiwan which is also a democracy
I( suppose that's a good thing cause China would destroy the US in an all out war. We would be toast with our woke military and no defense for their super sonic missle
#77
B
bertsmobile1
They learned from history
The Chinese Communists had been fighting the Chinese Republicans for decades before Japan invaded China when they called a truce & fought the Japanese .
China lost more soldiers & people fighting the Japanese than any other country on the planet, It is just that because John Wayne was not in China so no movies got made about it .
The Chinese communist saw that fighting the Japanese with almost no help from any other country on the planet exhausted the Nationalists and bankrupted them
Thus when Japan surrendered the Nationalist & Communists went back to fighting each other but without significant help, the Nationalist collapsed and the Communist took over with significant support from the USSR.
Thus the Communist government realised that wars are not good for the country , the economy or the population.
Without any support apart from the USSR ( which itself was bankrupted by WWII ) China managed to do what no other country on the planet has done.
Modernise & industrialise without massive foreign investment and when they did open up to foreign investment they took a leaf out of the Arab governments book and only allowed a foreign government to have a 50% stake in any business they set up so unlike in countries like Australia the multinationals that set up in China paid proper taxes rather than just exploiting slave labour or mineral deposits .
China is very unlikely to declare war on any one, there is no need to
If they are in conflict with say the USA all they have to do is cut off the supply of manufactured goods to the USA and the USA would be on it's knees in a couple of months because the USA ( and Aust ) is totally dependent upon imports from China, so they have won any war, before it starts.
The only thing that the USA can make without Chinese imports is weapons and bullets do not make good eating .
Despite what the red & blues attribute the current state of the USS economy to, the reality of it is the partial slow down of imports from China due to covid -19 decimated the US economy , and that was just a partial slow down, cut it off altogether and there would be no medical operations & no manufacturing plus all of the processed foods would no longer be available .
Have a walk around the supermarket and check the labels of every thing .
Like OZ you will see that well over 50% are made in PRC or contain ingrediens from the PRC or the cans are made from Chinese Steel or the goods were canned in the PRC.
All of the canned goods that are processed in SE Asia go into cans made from Chinese steel.
So if today China simply stopped exporting to the USA millions of Americas would starve to death before the USA could rebuild it's food processing industry.
Just about every factory would close because they can not get parts needed so millions would be laid off .
With the current state of US politics I could see a second civil war happening between the reds & the blues because the past 5 presidents have all used the "Divide and conquer" method to get and maintain political power so there are 2 Americas now days and the current divisions around President Trump where people were willing to storm the parliament and kill shows just how divided the USA population is.
SO you have no job, no income , no government support to buy any food that is not there anyway because the USA is a net importer of food thus the only food available is fresh and that does not last long because all of the chilling plants need parts made in the PRC, what are you going to do when the only thing you have is the 3 rifles and 2000 rounds ?
B
bertsmobile1
The Chinese government is far more clever than the rest of the governments of the world all added together.Yeah, they keep talkin bout "we must protect democracy" as the reason for helping Ukraine.
But, they don't want to help Taiwan which is also a democracy
I( suppose that's a good thing cause China would destroy the US in an all out war. We would be toast with our woke military and no defense for their super sonic missle
They learned from history
The Chinese Communists had been fighting the Chinese Republicans for decades before Japan invaded China when they called a truce & fought the Japanese .
China lost more soldiers & people fighting the Japanese than any other country on the planet, It is just that because John Wayne was not in China so no movies got made about it .
The Chinese communist saw that fighting the Japanese with almost no help from any other country on the planet exhausted the Nationalists and bankrupted them
Thus when Japan surrendered the Nationalist & Communists went back to fighting each other but without significant help, the Nationalist collapsed and the Communist took over with significant support from the USSR.
Thus the Communist government realised that wars are not good for the country , the economy or the population.
Without any support apart from the USSR ( which itself was bankrupted by WWII ) China managed to do what no other country on the planet has done.
Modernise & industrialise without massive foreign investment and when they did open up to foreign investment they took a leaf out of the Arab governments book and only allowed a foreign government to have a 50% stake in any business they set up so unlike in countries like Australia the multinationals that set up in China paid proper taxes rather than just exploiting slave labour or mineral deposits .
China is very unlikely to declare war on any one, there is no need to
If they are in conflict with say the USA all they have to do is cut off the supply of manufactured goods to the USA and the USA would be on it's knees in a couple of months because the USA ( and Aust ) is totally dependent upon imports from China, so they have won any war, before it starts.
The only thing that the USA can make without Chinese imports is weapons and bullets do not make good eating .
Despite what the red & blues attribute the current state of the USS economy to, the reality of it is the partial slow down of imports from China due to covid -19 decimated the US economy , and that was just a partial slow down, cut it off altogether and there would be no medical operations & no manufacturing plus all of the processed foods would no longer be available .
Have a walk around the supermarket and check the labels of every thing .
Like OZ you will see that well over 50% are made in PRC or contain ingrediens from the PRC or the cans are made from Chinese Steel or the goods were canned in the PRC.
All of the canned goods that are processed in SE Asia go into cans made from Chinese steel.
So if today China simply stopped exporting to the USA millions of Americas would starve to death before the USA could rebuild it's food processing industry.
Just about every factory would close because they can not get parts needed so millions would be laid off .
With the current state of US politics I could see a second civil war happening between the reds & the blues because the past 5 presidents have all used the "Divide and conquer" method to get and maintain political power so there are 2 Americas now days and the current divisions around President Trump where people were willing to storm the parliament and kill shows just how divided the USA population is.
SO you have no job, no income , no government support to buy any food that is not there anyway because the USA is a net importer of food thus the only food available is fresh and that does not last long because all of the chilling plants need parts made in the PRC, what are you going to do when the only thing you have is the 3 rifles and 2000 rounds ?
#78
KM Richards
KM Richards
Well, it's too bad the US didn't help China back then so they would not turn communist.
It's shame cause we had the equipment and manpower right there to jump in, just like we could have saved Europe from Russia.
We should have listened to General Patton!
It's shame cause we had the equipment and manpower right there to jump in, just like we could have saved Europe from Russia.
We should have listened to General Patton!
#79
StarTech
StarTech
Back in the 80's everyone here was worried about the Japanese taking over our country product wise but the stupid American public fell for the cheap Chinese prices and now we are paying the price as we can't get things like use to do. No wonder there is a few American manufacturing companies now.
What worst every Tom, Dick, and Harry just keeps buying the Chinese junk because it is cheap.
What worst every Tom, Dick, and Harry just keeps buying the Chinese junk because it is cheap.
#80
KM Richards
KM Richards
When all American companies are taking their manufacturing to china... one doesn't have much choice but to buy chinese made stuff.
The politicians on both sides failed us by forgetting what communism is.... now we have a pres that is owned by the chinese and continually makes decisions that end up benefiting china!
Oh, we... it's not like we can put the toothpaste back in the tube now.
china will eventually be the world's top super power and the US will be a has been.
The politicians on both sides failed us by forgetting what communism is.... now we have a pres that is owned by the chinese and continually makes decisions that end up benefiting china!
Oh, we... it's not like we can put the toothpaste back in the tube now.
china will eventually be the world's top super power and the US will be a has been.
#81
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
The Nationalist & the Communists had been engaged in a civil war since 1927 when the Great Depression caused the European backers of the Nationalist Government to withdraw their support and the Russian saw a chance to get access to the vast mineral resources in Manchuria , so they stirred up the impoverished feudal peasants to support the various communists / socialists groups to rise against the Nationalist overlords.
Remember Europe & the UK did to China what the UK did to India only on a larger scale .
Thus the Chinese civil war commenced and ran rampant & bitter till the Japanese invaided in 1936 for the same reason as Russia, the mineral deposits in Manchuria so for a while the Communists & Nationalist joined forces to fight the Japanese .
Now the Chinese forces were very much obsolete mostly WW I hand me downs ( at very high prices ) so the USA allowed the Nationalist Government ( not the communists ) to BUY US aircraft & air crews + ammo, again at very favourable terms to the USA .
This was what eventually became known as the Flying Tigers and while they were very successful in halting the Japanese incursion , they were not good enough to push the Japanese out of China all together.
Should this have happened then Pearl Harbour would not have happened because Japan was very resource poor .
Paying for the US help bankrupted the Nationalist Government who were also forced to buy raw materials to compensate for the ones Japan was using to build it arms with to rebuild what Japanese troops ( mainly bombers ) had destroyed
And to the Japanese, they were already at war with the USA so to them Pearl Harbour was a stragetic blow against a country they were already at war with in China , not the unprevoked act of agression that the post WWII US propaganda depicted it as .
Remember the victorious write the history of the vanquished to suit their own needs .
There is real history & the Disney Land version of history we all were brainwashed with .
Large military forces, provide jobs for peasants and make the population feel the government is keeping them safe & secure , a leaf China took from the USSR's play book.
But China has no intention of using them they are to keep the occupants of the cheap seats amused while they take over the movie theatres.
Remember Europe & the UK did to China what the UK did to India only on a larger scale .
Thus the Chinese civil war commenced and ran rampant & bitter till the Japanese invaided in 1936 for the same reason as Russia, the mineral deposits in Manchuria so for a while the Communists & Nationalist joined forces to fight the Japanese .
Now the Chinese forces were very much obsolete mostly WW I hand me downs ( at very high prices ) so the USA allowed the Nationalist Government ( not the communists ) to BUY US aircraft & air crews + ammo, again at very favourable terms to the USA .
This was what eventually became known as the Flying Tigers and while they were very successful in halting the Japanese incursion , they were not good enough to push the Japanese out of China all together.
Should this have happened then Pearl Harbour would not have happened because Japan was very resource poor .
Paying for the US help bankrupted the Nationalist Government who were also forced to buy raw materials to compensate for the ones Japan was using to build it arms with to rebuild what Japanese troops ( mainly bombers ) had destroyed
And to the Japanese, they were already at war with the USA so to them Pearl Harbour was a stragetic blow against a country they were already at war with in China , not the unprevoked act of agression that the post WWII US propaganda depicted it as .
Remember the victorious write the history of the vanquished to suit their own needs .
There is real history & the Disney Land version of history we all were brainwashed with .
Large military forces, provide jobs for peasants and make the population feel the government is keeping them safe & secure , a leaf China took from the USSR's play book.
But China has no intention of using them they are to keep the occupants of the cheap seats amused while they take over the movie theatres.
#82
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bertsmobile1
The President is not in the pocket of the Chinese, he is beholden to Wall St , in fact every President since President Regan has been the same with the sole exception of President O'bahma who got elected with crowd funding so should have been able to clean out the money grubbers but he ended up being just as bad as the rest .
Money has no nationalism and money makes have no national alliances it just has unfulfilled greed.
Perfect example is Rupet Murdoch who sold out his nationality for no reason other than he could make more money by becoming a US citizen a true enemy of the people .
The enemy is Wall St not the other colour party.
It is businesses driven by the USA Management theory of the Triple Bottom Line ( Princeton University ) that drives them to seek the absolute highest possible profit level with the minimum amount of capital investment and no regard for what they destroy along the way.
Nothing to do with the differences between capitalism & communism
It is all about greed and nothing more than greed .
Look at the profits of the listed companies in the USA most running at record levels, but all of it stays in Wall St and very little finds it's way to Poverty Place like President Regan promised it would "trickle down" to .
For a capitalist based economy to work every one has to have the oppertunity to participate on an equal footing and make a reasonable profit, and a reasonable portion of this profit needs to go back to those workers who created the profit .
And it is the duty of the governments to keep the balance with properly enforced regulations
However successive US Governments have abrigated this duty thus allowing the Waltons to decimate local retail with Walmart and then Bezos to kill off the remainder with Amazon then perverted the foundation basis of capitalism by declairing some businesses "too big to be allowed to fail " so bail out badly run businesses, like the banks or McDonald Douglass
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bertsmobile1
Your comments again are based on the divisive Reds vs Blues mentality.When all American companies are taking their manufacturing to china... one doesn't have much choice but to buy chinese made stuff.
The politicians on both sides failed us by forgetting what communism is.... now we have a pres that is owned by the chinese and continually makes decisions that end up benefiting china!
Oh, we... it's not like we can put the toothpaste back in the tube now.
china will eventually be the world's top super power and the US will be a has been.
The President is not in the pocket of the Chinese, he is beholden to Wall St , in fact every President since President Regan has been the same with the sole exception of President O'bahma who got elected with crowd funding so should have been able to clean out the money grubbers but he ended up being just as bad as the rest .
Money has no nationalism and money makes have no national alliances it just has unfulfilled greed.
Perfect example is Rupet Murdoch who sold out his nationality for no reason other than he could make more money by becoming a US citizen a true enemy of the people .
The enemy is Wall St not the other colour party.
It is businesses driven by the USA Management theory of the Triple Bottom Line ( Princeton University ) that drives them to seek the absolute highest possible profit level with the minimum amount of capital investment and no regard for what they destroy along the way.
Nothing to do with the differences between capitalism & communism
It is all about greed and nothing more than greed .
Look at the profits of the listed companies in the USA most running at record levels, but all of it stays in Wall St and very little finds it's way to Poverty Place like President Regan promised it would "trickle down" to .
For a capitalist based economy to work every one has to have the oppertunity to participate on an equal footing and make a reasonable profit, and a reasonable portion of this profit needs to go back to those workers who created the profit .
And it is the duty of the governments to keep the balance with properly enforced regulations
However successive US Governments have abrigated this duty thus allowing the Waltons to decimate local retail with Walmart and then Bezos to kill off the remainder with Amazon then perverted the foundation basis of capitalism by declairing some businesses "too big to be allowed to fail " so bail out badly run businesses, like the banks or McDonald Douglass
#83
StarTech
StarTech
And really the our President is only a scapegoat most times as it is Congress that holds the power. And we really need term limits of them too. This way we can get new uncorrupt blood per say / new thinking and those that are not so behold to the millionaires, billionaires, or other special interest groups.
Currently we will never get any where as the political parties are only looking out for themselves and not the people that put them in office.
Now I do admit the last president did try to be a dictator and would do the same if voted back into office. He has gotten his so brainwashed that they believe anything he say as gospel truth much like Adolf Hitler did.
Personally I judge people by their deeds and not their words.
Currently we will never get any where as the political parties are only looking out for themselves and not the people that put them in office.
Now I do admit the last president did try to be a dictator and would do the same if voted back into office. He has gotten his so brainwashed that they believe anything he say as gospel truth much like Adolf Hitler did.
Personally I judge people by their deeds and not their words.
#84
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hlw49
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hlw49
We have term limits if the people were smart enough to use them. Vote them out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#85
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
While we are getting deep into politics , I do agree with this 100%
Remember the Germans were one of the best educated population on the planet at the time they voted Mr Hitler into power
And the similarities between his methods & president Trumps methods are frightening .
OTOH I can understand why the US population decided to give Mr Trump a try because the choices you were presented with were mirror images of each other and frankly just a pair of slease bag politicians who you would not buy a used mower from let alone a car so a business man who has not lived his entire life sucking money from the public purse did have some appeal .
Luckily down here we have several minor parties so there is a reasonable choice of which lunatics we put in charge and even then we voted a record number of independants into parliament this year because like the US population we were sick & tired of do nothing politicians .
Unfortunately the USA has a constitution that is near impossible to change
It was written to appease the wealth Southerners so there would never be another Civil war so you got life time senators .
Ours do a term that is double the parliament & we only vote for 1/2 at any election so that causes good stability and prevents both side from running amock
Remember the Germans were one of the best educated population on the planet at the time they voted Mr Hitler into power
And the similarities between his methods & president Trumps methods are frightening .
OTOH I can understand why the US population decided to give Mr Trump a try because the choices you were presented with were mirror images of each other and frankly just a pair of slease bag politicians who you would not buy a used mower from let alone a car so a business man who has not lived his entire life sucking money from the public purse did have some appeal .
Luckily down here we have several minor parties so there is a reasonable choice of which lunatics we put in charge and even then we voted a record number of independants into parliament this year because like the US population we were sick & tired of do nothing politicians .
Unfortunately the USA has a constitution that is near impossible to change
It was written to appease the wealth Southerners so there would never be another Civil war so you got life time senators .
Ours do a term that is double the parliament & we only vote for 1/2 at any election so that causes good stability and prevents both side from running amock
#86
StarTech
StarTech
Well back to other subjects.
The Covid is raising its ugly head around here again. One of my customer's wives and him are back in quarantine as she came down with it again plus I lost one of my competitors to Covid recently. Hope he don't get it as with his health problems he surely don't it.
Most people around here have thrown out the window the precautions we should still be taking but it is their health and not mine. But I live in a Republican state and most are following FOX News. I still on the very cautious side myself. I just don't want it as I had enough problems with the last bout with pneumonia that nearly killed me. It took years to fully recover.
And I have read where Russia has turn to their jails for soldiers to fight in Ukraine yet they are saying they haven't lost many soldiers. If true something tells me they are lying again and are getting desperate.
The Covid is raising its ugly head around here again. One of my customer's wives and him are back in quarantine as she came down with it again plus I lost one of my competitors to Covid recently. Hope he don't get it as with his health problems he surely don't it.
Most people around here have thrown out the window the precautions we should still be taking but it is their health and not mine. But I live in a Republican state and most are following FOX News. I still on the very cautious side myself. I just don't want it as I had enough problems with the last bout with pneumonia that nearly killed me. It took years to fully recover.
And I have read where Russia has turn to their jails for soldiers to fight in Ukraine yet they are saying they haven't lost many soldiers. If true something tells me they are lying again and are getting desperate.
#87
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slomo
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slomo
Yes Put Put has nucs. Question is, do they work? I bet they blow prior to launch. No money for maintenance. And most of his fleet is now many decades old.Putin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert.
If this is so our governments are inching ever closer to nuclear war with Russia. Damn fools on both sides. Looks like the Russian president is hell bent on destroying the world if he don't get his way. I say we're less than half a second before Midnight right now.
#88
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1 Lucky Texan
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1 Lucky Texan
Nukes take a backseat to bioweapons. read, The Demon in the Freezer by Richard Preston
#89
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bertsmobile1
It is a virus that is destroyed by sunlight , UV rays, heat over 70 deg C , chlorine, alcohol, caustic soda most strong acids or strong bases, euculiptus oil , tea tree oil and heaven only knows what else .
It can persist in a lab or building with no sunlight for a maximum of 3 days .
So if and that is a massive IF it can become a purely medical issue then it can be eliminated in 1 month
But political parties decided to make it a political problem so they could bash each other with it because on both sides all of them have plenty of money so they and their immediate family will get medical care in order to recover and if 100,000,000 US citizens die then who gives a wrinkled rats rectum , no politicans that is for sure and most of them will be the politically undesireables so it will be a good thing for the country & the party .
As for Ukrane & the way, Russia will eventually win unless some one puts a bullet through Tzar Putins head but Tzar Putin is some what like President Trump and has brainwashed a good percentage of the population into believing he is the saviour of their country and can do no wrong .
As for manning the army, when there is little chance of you getting killed it is a good career move for well educated elite and of course just about the only job for the underclasses where they have a guaranteed income .
As for using prisoners , litterally kills 2 birds with the one stone .
If they are unsuccessful then they are gone so one problem solved and if they are victorious there is always accidential friendly fire so 2 problems solved .
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bertsmobile1
Almost no government was willing to do what was needed to eliminate covid which is DEAD EASY, all you have to do is make every one stay home for 1 month and those who can not have to be isolated from the general population so they can not spread it. Then make every person who travels undergo proper quarantine , not the sham quarantine we did down here .Well back to other subjects.
The Covid is raising its ugly head around here again. One of my customer's wives and him are back in quarantine as she came down with it again plus I lost one of my competitors to Covid recently. Hope he don't get it as with his health problems he surely don't it.
Most people around here have thrown out the window the precautions we should still be taking but it is their health and not mine. But I live in a Republican state and most are following FOX News. I still on the very cautious side myself. I just don't want it as I had enough problems with the last bout with pneumonia that nearly killed me. It took years to fully recover.
And I have read where Russia has turn to their jails for soldiers to fight in Ukraine yet they are saying they haven't lost many soldiers. If true something tells me they are lying again and are getting desperate.
It is a virus that is destroyed by sunlight , UV rays, heat over 70 deg C , chlorine, alcohol, caustic soda most strong acids or strong bases, euculiptus oil , tea tree oil and heaven only knows what else .
It can persist in a lab or building with no sunlight for a maximum of 3 days .
So if and that is a massive IF it can become a purely medical issue then it can be eliminated in 1 month
But political parties decided to make it a political problem so they could bash each other with it because on both sides all of them have plenty of money so they and their immediate family will get medical care in order to recover and if 100,000,000 US citizens die then who gives a wrinkled rats rectum , no politicans that is for sure and most of them will be the politically undesireables so it will be a good thing for the country & the party .
As for Ukrane & the way, Russia will eventually win unless some one puts a bullet through Tzar Putins head but Tzar Putin is some what like President Trump and has brainwashed a good percentage of the population into believing he is the saviour of their country and can do no wrong .
As for manning the army, when there is little chance of you getting killed it is a good career move for well educated elite and of course just about the only job for the underclasses where they have a guaranteed income .
As for using prisoners , litterally kills 2 birds with the one stone .
If they are unsuccessful then they are gone so one problem solved and if they are victorious there is always accidential friendly fire so 2 problems solved .
#90
StarTech
StarTech
I look at this way the governments is using Covid as one way to control the population problem. Another is to have wars to thin the population.
And is always doing as they in the movie "Soylent Green" where they turned people into food and the masses went crazy for it.
And is always doing as they in the movie "Soylent Green" where they turned people into food and the masses went crazy for it.
#92
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hlw49
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hlw49
I will take Trump over the idiots we have in the administration we have in office now, I have never seen so many incompetent people put in Bidens cabinet and secretary of this and that. We are over run at the border have high gas prices food prices inflation run amuck. If we could get ride of Biden his vice president is no better than he is. Nothing she says makes any since. Congress just passed the inflation reduction bill that does nothing but raises taxes and puts an extra burden on the American people. They are hiring 87000 more IRS agents for what purpose. To spy on the people when Biden and his cronies are the most corrupt people in Washington. And who is going to pay for them We the people. God help us and God bless the USA.While we are getting deep into politics , I do agree with this 100%
Remember the Germans were one of the best educated population on the planet at the time they voted Mr Hitler into power
And the similarities between his methods & president Trumps methods are frightening .
OTOH I can understand why the US population decided to give Mr Trump a try because the choices you were presented with were mirror images of each other and frankly just a pair of slease bag politicians who you would not buy a used mower from let alone a car so a business man who has not lived his entire life sucking money from the public purse did have some appeal .
Luckily down here we have several minor parties so there is a reasonable choice of which lunatics we put in charge and even then we voted a record number of independants into parliament this year because like the US population we were sick & tired of do nothing politicians .
Unfortunately the USA has a constitution that is near impossible to change
It was written to appease the wealth Southerners so there would never be another Civil war so you got life time senators .
Ours do a term that is double the parliament & we only vote for 1/2 at any election so that causes good stability and prevents both side from running amock
#93
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slomo
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slomo
Seriously. If you look at Trump, just look at what he did since his first day at bat. Politics aside. The guy did more for "We the People" than any other Pres in history. Roosevelt was close with all the REAL water hydro dam jobs and national parks.
I LOVED my $1.99 a gallon E-0 gas under Trump. Tried to lock down the border with NO help from "crazy Nancy". Brought companies back to the USA. Cracked down on robocalls. First time ever, had a team of 1900 people AUDIT the Pentagon. And where was all our defense money going? Shocking we still don't know but getting better. Illegal immigration and many more.
I LOVED my $1.99 a gallon E-0 gas under Trump. Tried to lock down the border with NO help from "crazy Nancy". Brought companies back to the USA. Cracked down on robocalls. First time ever, had a team of 1900 people AUDIT the Pentagon. And where was all our defense money going? Shocking we still don't know but getting better. Illegal immigration and many more.