after talking more to the guys running the mowers. They are reusing the old fiber washers or just not using them at all. found that the cup washers are all flat. so we will be changing all the cup washers. the spindle threads all look to be in ok shape, was told to get at least one more season out of the spindles before we change them management has put a stop to the crew working on there own equipment, so i will be very busy.