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23hp on a Gravely ztr.
I'm trying to find the right carb for this, but I'm not finding any numbers anywhere. I can see where the sticker used to be. Does Kawasaki stamp anything on the engines?

PTmowerMech said:

23hp on a Gravely ztr.
I'm trying to find the right carb for this, but I'm not finding any numbers anywhere. I can see where the sticker used to be. Does Kawasaki stamp anything on the engines?

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It depends on how old this eng/mower is but, Kaw has started putting another eng ID sticker inside the air filter area.

Can you find the Gravely model number and serial number? If so, go to the Ariens or Gravely website and plug it the numbers. That should give you any information that you need.

Mower King said:

It depends on how old this eng/mower is but, Kaw has started putting another eng ID sticker inside the air filter area.

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Must be older than that. The only sticker is Kawasaki label on top. And only gives the FR691V.

Might have to clean the block to find it. Could be covered up under an oil slick.

MParr said:

Can you find the Gravely model number and serial number? If so, go to the Ariens or Gravely website and plug it the numbers. That should give you any information that you need.

Ariens | Lawn & Snow Equipment | Zero Turn Mowers & Snow Blowers

Ariens Lawn & Snow Equipment: Snow Blowers, Zero Turn Mowers, Riding Lawn Tractors. Check out our lawn and snow product lines and find a local dealer.

www.ariens.com

https://partsradar.partsmartweb.com/scripts/EmpartISAPI.dll?MF&app=ariens&lang=EN&TF=Empartweb&loginID=ariensc&loginpwd=consumer

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I can't find a place to add the serial number. Am I blind? Or is it hid?

You go thru this link on that page.


or just use this link.
https://www.ariens.com/en-us/manualsdownload

and you get a page like this:

StarTech said:

You go thru this link on that page.
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or just use this link.
https://www.ariens.com/en-us/manualsdownload

and you get a page like this:
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Yeah, that doesn't really give me the actual engine number from this particular mower. Just a list of engines that was used on these mowers. (and a few others). Putting the M# and Serial #, gave me two different manuals. Neither of which had my specific engine. Nor did it give me a part listing for anything on this engine. Mainly parts diagrams and parts list for this mower.
Good info though. A ton of good info.

PTmowerMech said:

Yeah, that doesn't really give me the actual engine number from this particular mower. Just a list of engines that was used on these mowers. (and a few others). Putting the M# and Serial #, gave me two different manuals. Neither of which had my specific engine. Nor did it give me a part listing for anything on this engine. Mainly parts diagrams and parts list for this mower.
Good info though. A ton of good info.

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Give us the model number and serial number and see if we can help you.

MParr said:

Give us the model number and serial number and see if we can help you.

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M# 991082


S# 030659

Walbro LMF-26?
I put in the numbers and it only gave me the engine number. We already knew that. Lists as part unavailable. Maybe this will help.

MParr said:

Walbro LMF-26?
I put in the numbers and it only gave me the engine number. We already knew that. Lists as part unavailable. Maybe this will help.

https://www.mowersdirect.com/manuals/ariens-4495fb4cff0703992010f79df60b5720.pdf

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I'm not sure how this happened. But I put in the same numbers and didn't get any specific engines at all. It went to Gravely ZTR, not to Kawasaki.

Thank you.

PTmowerMech said:

I'm not sure how this happened. But I put in the same numbers and didn't get any specific engines at all. It went to Gravely ZTR, not to Kawasaki.

Thank you.

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I meant to say a Gravely part number for that engine. The Gravely part number for the engine is #08200717

MParr said:

I meant to say a Gravely part number for that engine. The Gravely part number for the engine is #08200717

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Looks like the Kawasaki # is 15004-0985

PTmowerMech said:

Looks like the Kawasaki # is 15004-0985

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I saw that earlier but, I wasn’t sure. There should be a number on that carburetor somewhere. On the mounting flange?

Bingo. It is a FR691V-AS15

Here is the source for the cross of the PN.

2021 LAWN & GARDEN - Ariens

StarTech said:

Bingo. It is a FR691V-AS15

Here is the source for the cross of the PN.

2021 LAWN & GARDEN - Ariens

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Thanks man.

Who ever come up with the idea of putting stickers on engine covers should be shot.

MParr said:

I saw that earlier but, I wasn’t sure. There should be a number on that carburetor somewhere. On the mounting flange?

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There are:

26A
Mexico 339
40829

PTmowerMech said:

There are:

26A
Mexico 339
40829

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Looks like you’re in business. ?

PTmowerMech said:

Thanks man.

Who ever come up with the idea of putting stickers on engine covers should be shot.

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I would definitely second that but I think more of a good lashing at least. Those missing decals stickers do cause me a lot problems. I am lucky at times to have had the equipment in the shop before they got lost and I had recorded them.

Now as for the carburetor PT it is a Walbro LMF-26-1.

StarTech said:

Now as for the carburetor PT it is a Walbro LMF-26-1.
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About $120 with tax. That's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I was just guessing a few days ago when I started looking this up, found one that was over $340. WOW!!!!!! The customer said the same thing. We just stood there saying wow, back and forth to each other.

Then came the awkward silence.

StarTech said:

Now as for the carburetor PT it is a Walbro LMF-26-1.
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Yep

PTmowerMech said:

About $120 with tax. That's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I was just guessing a few days ago when I started looking this up, found one that was over $340. WOW!!!!!! The customer said the same thing. We just stood there saying wow, back and forth to each other.

Then came the awkward silence.

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Buy the Ariens/Gravely part and you will pay $250.

Hate to do this but through my distributor that Walbro is only $45.42 but they don't it in stock. As for the 15004-1063 it is $269.57 and they have 7 of those in stock. So you know which they are pushing.

StarTech said:

through my distributor that Walbro is only $45.42 but they don't it in stock. As for the 15004-1063 it is $269.57 and they have 7 of those in stock. So you know which they are pushing.

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You just had to do it, didn't cha?

PTmowerMech said:

You just had to do it, didn't cha?

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PTmowerMech said:

You just had to do it, didn't cha?

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Yelp...

MParr said:

Genuine Kawasaki 15004-0985 Carburetor FR691V FS691V replaces 15004-0829

Genuine Kawasaki 15004-0985 Carburetor FR691V FS691V replaces 15004-0829 Brand New Genuine Kawasaki Carburetor Assembly… · Carburetor Assembly · Genuine Kawasaki Part # 15004-0985 · Fits Specific Kawasaki FR691V & FS691V Engine Models (Depends on Model, Spec & Serial Numbers) · Genuine OEM...

npwparts.com

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MParr that not the carburetor that the FR691V-AS15 is showing as to be used so jetting may be wrong.

StarTech said:

Yelp...

MParr that not the carburetor that the FR691V-AS15 is showing as to be used so jetting may be wrong.
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I imagine that you’re right. There’s no telling how many times Kawasaki has updated that part since the engine in question was built. The AS15 suffix denotes the Kawasaki FR691 Ariens Service number. There’s a good chance that calling a Walbro parts dealer and giving the numbers off of the carburetor will get you a correct part cheaper.

StarTech said:

Yelp...

MParr that not the carburetor that the FR691V-AS15 is showing as to be used so jetting may be wrong.
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Going to the Kawasaki engine site and plugging in the FR691V-AS15, you get #15004–0985.

Now that is confusing as I was using the EU website. But this might put thing in perspective as this is from my Kawasaki distributor as PN appears to be superseded to the PN I gave.

StarTech said:

Now that is confusing as I was using the EU website. But this might put thing in perspective as this is from my Kawasaki distributor as PN appears to be superseded to the PN I gave.
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Yeah, they keep updating the part numbers and the price. Has anything really changed other than the part number? I doubt it.

Jacks Small Engine shows that as an FR73. Are you the original owner?

MParr said:

Yeah, they keep updating the part numbers and the price. Has anything really changed other than the part number? I doubt it.

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Personally, I would purchase the earlier part numbers, if available. Or, contact a Walbro distributor, give them the numbers off of the carburetor and get a replacement.

@PTmowerMech
Update please.

MParr said:

@PTmowerMech
Update please.

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It's ordered. Customer wanted to go the cheap route. So I ordered the amazon one, and the Walbro one. If the amazon one works, I just ate $120. And it'll sit on the shelf for a year. But chances are, the Amazon one will be junk, like most of them are.

Customers are always wanting to go the cheap route. Here if the cheap carb is failure they still pay for it plus the one that works.

StarTech said:

Customers are always wanting to go the cheap route. Here if the cheap carb is failure they still pay for it plus the one that works.

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That's what I told her, initially. When I first cleaned this original carb, I told her the float bowl was rusty and it'll need to be replaced petty soon. So after a couple of months, it's running rough. I checked the float bowl and it's rusting faster than I expected. So I told her I wouldn't charge her labor for the R & R this time. (only the part) But if the cheap carb didn't work, then she'd have to pay for the part and labor on the OEM carb.
She was fine with that. So it's all good. She'll be a regular customer. Any loss, I'll make it up over time.
Plus she's my landlord. And reduces my rent $100 each time I mow her 5 acre yard. (with her mower). I'm thinking If I fertilize her yard, I may not have to pay rent til winter. lol

You still recover the old carburetor if it is only the fuel bowl as you can use one of the following.

Briggs 495933 (easier to find)
Walbro 20-149

I Just looked up FR69RV and found https://www.amazon.com/Carburetor-S...ocphy=1015426&hvtargid=pla-628868475549&psc=1

StarTech said:

You still recover the old carburetor if it is only the fuel bowl as you can use one of the following.

Briggs 495933 (easier to find)
Walbro 20-149

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There was other things wrong with this one. The coating on the needle was pealing off. Customer was opposed to me rebuilding this, vs just getting a new one.

I'll see if I got a briggs bowl for this though. If so, then I'll just rebuild it and have two (to sit on the shelf for a year or more). Better to have and not need, than to need and not have. Right?

PTmowerMech said:

There was other things wrong with this one. The coating on the needle was pealing off. Customer was opposed to me rebuilding this, vs just getting a new one.

I'll see if I got a briggs bowl for this though. If so, then I'll just rebuild it and have two (to sit on the shelf for a year or more). Better to have and not need, than to need and not have. Right?

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Really how they move. I still got starters that I brought back in 2009 sitting on the shelf.