"Well if you are referring to the cheap little things sold at the Big Box Stores I do not even regard those as true John Deere's"
But they are sold as real John Deeres, and you can get them at the John Deere dealerships - I almost did, until I saw reviews like these: John Deere L130 Review, Price, Information
"I think JD made a mistake trying to compete with MTD"
I would agree with you.
Problem is most manufacturers are doing this now, and (within the price range most people can afford) there is no real way to be sure that you wont be throwing money away whatever you buy.
There is no "just buy brand x and you'll be happy" - which is how I read your post. Maybe I read it wrong.
When I was looking at Deeres, after doing some homework on them, I prodded the salesmen at the John Deere dealerships and they admitted that the machines in the price range I was looking at (under $2000) were not made with the same kind of quality that most people associate with the brand.
When I asked what I should be looking at, I was steered to an X300 - for $3000. Did some research on that machine and found that it was not completely in the next level, for example it still uses the same transmission as the entry level machines. If you want an improved tranny, well you're up around $4000.
And if I drop four grand, am I going to be sure to have a very good machine, or am I going to find out that I got some mediocre motor, or frame, etc, and that I should've upgraded to model "Y"? :confused2:
When you buy a John Deere, you pay a premium for the brand. If you have the money to spend, that's fine. But it is not always the best value for the money.
To get a new John Deere that most would agree is an absolutely solid machine, I'd have to pay about what I paid for my last three cars - for a lawn mower?!?
That's just not practical for me, and I don't think it is for most people.
Good luck!
Bruce.
But they are sold as real John Deeres, and you can get them at the John Deere dealerships - I almost did, until I saw reviews like these: John Deere L130 Review, Price, Information
"I think JD made a mistake trying to compete with MTD"
I would agree with you.
Problem is most manufacturers are doing this now, and (within the price range most people can afford) there is no real way to be sure that you wont be throwing money away whatever you buy.
There is no "just buy brand x and you'll be happy" - which is how I read your post. Maybe I read it wrong.
When I was looking at Deeres, after doing some homework on them, I prodded the salesmen at the John Deere dealerships and they admitted that the machines in the price range I was looking at (under $2000) were not made with the same kind of quality that most people associate with the brand.
When I asked what I should be looking at, I was steered to an X300 - for $3000. Did some research on that machine and found that it was not completely in the next level, for example it still uses the same transmission as the entry level machines. If you want an improved tranny, well you're up around $4000.
And if I drop four grand, am I going to be sure to have a very good machine, or am I going to find out that I got some mediocre motor, or frame, etc, and that I should've upgraded to model "Y"? :confused2:
When you buy a John Deere, you pay a premium for the brand. If you have the money to spend, that's fine. But it is not always the best value for the money.
To get a new John Deere that most would agree is an absolutely solid machine, I'd have to pay about what I paid for my last three cars - for a lawn mower?!?
That's just not practical for me, and I don't think it is for most people.
Good luck!
Bruce.