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exotion

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Napa gold is one if the best filters to use.
I got a good deal on a case of them last month.

I get a discount on them. I set up a commercial account with them. The more you buy the more you save. I think for my mower the filter is $3 my jeep its $4 the Titan is $3.

If you are really that concerned with not changing the filter than simply change it everytime it doesn't take very long, it doesn't cost much , just do it
 

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My Toro MX5060 manual says to change oil every 50 hrs, but not the filter until you hit 100 and continue to alternate like that. I guess they figure a filter is good for 100 hours, but I'm kinda leery of not changing the filter with every change.

Anyone understand this approach?

I would not alternate filters like that myself, if your oil is dirty when you change it you know your filter is dirty as well, so to be safe just change it with your oil.
 

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It makes more sense to change the filter once more between oil changes and leave to oil in longer
 

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I would not alternate filters like that myself, if your oil is dirty when you change it you know your filter is dirty as well, so to be safe just change it with your oil.

Same here. Did the same thing with my lawn tractor one day to try to save money. Oil turned black the moment I cranked the engine.
 

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I get a discount on them. I set up a commercial account with them. The more you buy the more you save. I think for my mower the filter is $3 my jeep its $4 the Titan is $3.

If you are really that concerned with not changing the filter than simply change it everytime it doesn't take very long, it doesn't cost much , just do it

Soooo!,..how many do you have to buy to get them for free? :laughing:
 

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It appears some of would rather spend the little extra money and effort with a new filter with every change.

I would be interested in knowing what the engineer or whoever's thoughts are why he/she thinks a new filter is not required with every change. Certainly, the old filter contains at least 2 ounces of old/dirty oil which will contaminate the new...

But, maybe a little speculation might go something like this: "what's the big deal with a little dirty oil left in the old filter" when most of it's clean and yeah, the old filter is only somewhat clogged with contaminants, but will continue to filter, though not as efficiently as a new one?

I also wonder if this "only have to change oil filter every other change" is now suggested by most mower mfg's or is it exclusive to Toro?
 

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It appears some of would rather spend the little extra money and effort with a new filter with every change. I would be interested in knowing what the engineer or whoever's thoughts are why he/she thinks a new filter is not required with every change. Certainly, the old filter contains at least 2 ounces of old/dirty oil which will contaminate the new... But, maybe a little speculation might go something like this: "what's the big deal with a little dirty oil left in the old filter" when most of it's clean and yeah, the old filter is only somewhat clogged with contaminants, but will continue to filter, though not as efficiently as a new one? I also wonder if this "only have to change oil filter every other change" is now suggested by most mower mfg's or is it exclusive to Toro?

Do you change the filter on your car every 50 hours? No

The same filter that is on some small engines is the same filter that is on a car engine. On my trucks I change oil and filter every 6000 miles that's a lot more then 50 hours.

How much trash do you really think a briggs 18hp single cyl that holds a quart and a half of oil gets into a filter compared to a truck engine that holds 8 quarts of oil.

If the oil filter is getting stopped up after 2 oil changes then you have other problems you need to fix.
If you get right down to it the filter should last 5 or 6 oil changes.
 

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My Titan litterly uses the same filter as my toro proline :) lol
 

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Carscw,

You make a good point about the hours, but what about the contaminated oil left in the filter? Am I over thinking it regarding the old oil still in the unchanged filter?

If that doesn't present a problem, I'll follow the advice of leaving the old filter on for every other oil change as the manual suggests.

And, thanks for your perspective, I appreciate it.

I'm still learning...
 
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Do you change the filter on your car every 50 hours? No The same filter that is on some small engines is the same filter that is on a car engine. On my trucks I change oil and filter every 6000 miles that's a lot more then 50 hours. How much trash do you really think a briggs 18hp single cyl that holds a quart and a half of oil gets into a filter compared to a truck engine that holds 8 quarts of oil. If the oil filter is getting stopped up after 2 oil changes then you have other problems you need to fix. If you get right down to it the filter should last 5 or 6 oil changes.
Agree with this 100%. This is not exclusive to Toro whatsoever as my Ferris manual says the same thing. The engineers or whoever wouldn't put it that way if it was risky. As Carscw said you likely could use it 5 or 6 times.
 
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