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Dec 29, 2012#1

metz12

are echo chainsaws any good? i have never used one but i have always been curious because they make great trimmers and blowers.

Dec 29, 2012#2

lawn mower fanatic

metz12 said:
are echo chainsaws any good? i have never used one but i have always been curious because they make great trimmers and blowers.

I have never used one, but I have heard good things about them. From what I heard I would think they are right there with Husqvarna, and maybe just below Stihl. Look at these links:

I think you would be happy with an Echo chainsaw! :thumbsup:

Dec 29, 2012#3

metz12

lawn mower fanatic said:
I have never used one, but I have heard good things about them. From what I heard I would think they are right there with Husqvarna, and maybe just below Stihl. Look at these links:

Echo chainsaws - Tool Shed Forum - GardenWeb

http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/16268.htm

Chainsaws, Professional-Grade Chain Saws, Top Handle Chain Saws | ECHO USA

I think you would be happy with an Echo chainsaw! :thumbsup:
View attachment 10578

after looking at them, the bars look really weak and small. i would probably put an oregon or something else besides the echo bar. but i usually do that anyways since oregon is a great brand. but they look pretty solid.

Dec 29, 2012#4

lawn mower fanatic

metz12 said:
after looking at them, the bars look really weak and small. i would probably put an oregon or something else besides the echo bar. but i usually do that anyways since oregon is a great brand. but they look pretty solid.

Yeah, they do seem solid (other than the bar).

Dec 29, 2012#5

metz12

lawn mower fanatic said:
Yeah, they do seem solid (other than the bar).
View attachment 10579

I held one in home depot and it felt alot like holding a husqvarna. they are alot similar.

Dec 29, 2012#6

Kodie's Lawn Service

They lack a little in power the bars are not that bad the are good for smaller trees and branches though

cutting bigger than a 20 inch tree try a stihl instead

Dec 29, 2012#7

lawn mower fanatic

K-Pro-Mowing said:
They lack a little in power the bars are not that bad the are good for smaller trees and branches though cutting bigger than a 20 inch tree try a stihl instead

No chainsaw will beat a Stihl!

Dec 29, 2012#8

Kodie's Lawn Service

lawn mower fanatic said:
No chainsaw will beat a Stihl!

This is very true

Dec 30, 2012#9

metz12

K-Pro-Mowing said:
This is very true

yeah, your right, but i do love my husqvarnas:laughing:

Dec 30, 2012#10

Ric

metz12 said:
I held one in home depot and it felt alot like holding a husqvarna. they are alot similar.

How much did the Echo at Home Depot cost? Do you remember the model number?

Dec 30, 2012#11

pugaltitude

lawn mower fanatic said:
No chainsaw will beat a Stihl!

Dont always believe in brand names.
The home consumer Stihl chainsaw produced in china is awful. Unreliable, and expensive for the so called quality.
Iv started selling a chinese 2 stroke product which is half the price and better quality.
Husqvarna is the same with there poulan factory product.
Now spend a lot of money on a stihl or Husqvarna and you are getting quality.
Can you get Efco or Emak product?

Dec 30, 2012#12

Ric

pugaltitude said:
Dont always believe in brand names.
The home consumer Stihl chainsaw produced in china is awful. Unreliable, and expensive for the so called quality.
Iv started selling a chinese 2 stroke product which is half the price and better quality.
Husqvarna is the same with there poulan factory product.
Now spend a lot of money on a stihl or Husqvarna and you are getting quality.
Can you get Efco or Emak product?

I purchased the MS 181 Stihl Home Owner Chain saw and it's never givin me any trouble in the two years that I've used it. Most of STIHL chain saws and there other products are built in the United States using domestic and foreign parts and components much like everything else that you buy today.
The big problem with people and chain saws at there time of purchase is that the majority spend and waste a lot of money on overkill.

Dec 30, 2012#13

pugaltitude

Ric said:
I purchased the MS 181 Stihl Home Owner Chain saw and it's never givin me any trouble in the two years that I've used it. Most of STIHL chain saws and there other products are built in the United States using domestic and foreign parts and components much like everything else that you buy today.
The big problem with people and chain saws at there time of purchase is that the majority spend and waste a lot of money on overkill.

Not what iv been told by a Stihl rep.
They are producing certain product and assembling certain product in china. nobody can afford not to be in china due to cheap labour.
Also its what I see come through my workshop but if you look after your equipment it usually looks after you.
Not many people know and even taught by dealers how to sharpen chain and look after guide bars which if not done properly will be hard on a chainsaw.

Dec 30, 2012#14

metz12

Ric said:
How much did the Echo at Home Depot cost? Do you remember the model number?

it was this one. exactly like my husqvarna 345

Dec 30, 2012#15

lawn mower fanatic

metz12 said:
it was this one. exactly like my husqvarna 345

Which one? Is there supposed to be a picture?

Dec 30, 2012#16

Ric

pugaltitude said:
Not what iv been told by a Stihl rep.
They are producing certain product and assembling certain product in china. nobody can afford not to be in china due to cheap labour.
Also its what I see come through my workshop but if you look after your equipment it usually looks after you.
Not many people know and even taught by dealers how to sharpen chain and look after guide bars which if not done properly will be hard on a chainsaw.

This comes from the Stihl site.

STIHL chain saws are German-engineered and built in America.* And were the only gasoline-powered chain saw manufacturer that designs and manufactures its own bars and chains to ensure they meet our exacting standards in design and performance. Standards that have made STIHL the clear choice for professionals and homeowners alike. And have made STIHL the #1 selling brand of chain saws worldwide.
Most of STIHL chain saws and there other products are built in the United States using domestic and foreign parts and components much like everything else that you buy today.

Dec 30, 2012#17

metz12

lawn mower fanatic said:
Which one? Is there supposed to be a picture?

18 in. 40.2 cc Gas Chainsaw-CS-400-18 at The Home Depot

Dec 30, 2012#18

R

Rivets

Sorry pug, but I have to agree with Ric on this one. In my opinion, Stihl and Echo are the top two chain saws out there today. Our sales rep says the same as Ric quoted, American build.

Dec 30, 2012#19

lawn mower fanatic

metz12 said:
18 in. 40.2 cc Gas Chainsaw-CS-400-18 at The Home Depot

Oh, the one I posted a picture of. :ashamed: I have never used a Husqvarna chainsaw so I don't have any opinion on if they feel the same as the Echo CS-400.

Dec 30, 2012#20

metz12

they seem pretty sturdy. i like husqvarnas, but i have heard alot of things like they are almost the same things as poulans? i wouldnt think they were the same since poulan is a lower budget company?

Dec 30, 2012#21

pugaltitude

Ric said:
This comes from the Stihl site.

STIHL chain saws are German-engineered and built in America.* And we羆*e the only gasoline-powered chain saw manufacturer that designs and manufactures its own bars and chains to ensure they meet our exacting standards in design and performance. Standards that have made STIHL the clear choice for professionals and homeowners alike. And have made STIHL the #1 selling brand of chain saws worldwide.
Most of STIHL chain saws and there other products are built in the United States using domestic and foreign parts and components much like everything else that you buy today.

And Stihl being the company that they are will not print on there website that they produce in china.
I dont go by what is said on a marketing site but from the horses mouth.
As far as im aware the quality pro equipment is German and usa production but the bottom end is chinese as thats how they have to compete with that market.
I wouldnt say they are no 1. Again Brand names come into it.
Originally back in the 70-80s you picked 2 kinds of saws.
Stihl made the best big saws as their background is sawmills.
Husqvarna made the best small saws as their background is in the forest.
Yes Stihl make the best saw chain and guide bars but can be expensive.
Oregon think they invented saw chain but basically bought the history.
Windsor if i remember rightly researched and developed saw chain.
A canadian called Walt Galer was the man.

Dec 30, 2012#22

Ric

metz12 said:
they seem pretty sturdy. i like husqvarnas, but i have heard alot of things like they are almost the same things as poulans? i wouldnt think they were the same since poulan is a lower budget company?

Electrolux was Husqvarna's parent company. Husqvarna was spun off but Electrolux is still the majority stock or stakeholder. Husqvarna Outdoor Products, HOP, bought out American Yard Products, APY. The same company manufactures both Poulan and Craftsman. Now does that Help? Sure confuses :confused2: the He** out of me. :smile:

Dec 30, 2012#23

pugaltitude

metz12 said:
they seem pretty sturdy. i like husqvarnas, but i have heard alot of things like they are almost the same things as poulans? i wouldnt think they were the same since poulan is a lower budget company?

Basically its badged engineering.
Make a product, paint it different colours, give them different names and prices.
Confuses everyone :confused2:

Dec 30, 2012#24

metz12

pugaltitude said:
Basically its badged engineering.
Make a product, paint it different colours, give them different names and prices.
Confuses everyone :confused2:

so, what would YOU choose as your choice in chainsaw? i am looking to buy another one. i was thinking about the poluan 5020, but what would you recommend?

Dec 30, 2012#25

pugaltitude

What I would choose is not available for you too buy over there.
I would buy a chinese product Mitox which is imported by one of our distrubuters which is good hobby user to farm user.
As for pro it would be Stihl, Husqvarna, Echo,Efco.
Efco (brand) or Emak as a company make 2 stroke engines which they supply to different manufacturers like Stihl and Husqvarna.
To R&D an engine costs money so they buy a production line from a company who does.
Depends what the customer is looking for.
The reason why i dont buy poulan, mcculloch etc bottom end is by the time vat, import tax etc is put on then the price of that saw over here ends up being about $300 to $400 which is not worth it.

Dec 30, 2012#26

Ric

pugaltitude said:
And Stihl being the company that they are will not print on there website that they produce in china.
I dont go by what is said on a marketing site but from the horses mouth.
As far as im aware the quality pro equipment is German and usa production but the bottom end is chinese as thats how they have to compete with that market.
I wouldnt say they are no 1. Again Brand names come into it.
Originally back in the 70-80s you picked 2 kinds of saws.
Stihl made the best big saws as their background is sawmills.
Husqvarna made the best small saws as their background is in the forest.
Yes Stihl make the best saw chain and guide bars but can be expensive.
Oregon think they invented saw chain but basically bought the history.
Windsor if i remember rightly researched and developed saw chain.
A canadian called Walt Galer was the man.

Andreas Stihl designed and hand built the first chain saw in 1926. The saw was electric powered, and weighed in at 140 pounds. The Stihl name soon became popular, and also became synonymous with professional grade chain saws and would soon become the number one selling chain saw company in the world, a title that the company retains to this day.

Dec 30, 2012#27

ILENGINE

Ric said:
This comes from the Stihl site.

STIHL chain saws are German-engineered and built in America.* And were the only gasoline-powered chain saw manufacturer that designs and manufactures its own bars and chains to ensure they meet our exacting standards in design and performance. Standards that have made STIHL the clear choice for professionals and homeowners alike. And have made STIHL the #1 selling brand of chain saws worldwide.
Most of STIHL chain saws and there other products are built in the United States using domestic and foreign parts and components much like everything else that you buy today.

I have talked to Stihl reps and been told that Stihl makes there own chain and bars. Have talked to Oregon chain reps and been told "for all practical purposed Stihl makes there own chain." What I find interesting is Stihl and Oregon had the exact same chain description in the 2010 catalog. the current catalog shows the same metal patent with the same "X-grind technology used on both chains. So in my opinion I cannot totally believe that Stihl makes there on chain.

Dec 30, 2012#28

Ric

metz12 said:
18 in. 40.2 cc Gas Chainsaw-CS-400-18 at The Home Depot

If your looking at the Echo CS-400 You may want to look at the MS-250 it's a 18" bar and a 45.4cc engine for the same $299.95

MS 250 Chain Saw - High Performance Compact Chainsaw | STIHL USA

Dec 30, 2012#29

metz12

Ric said:
If your looking at the Echo CS-400 You may want to look at the MS-250 it's a 18" bar and a 45.4cc engine for the same $299.95

MS 250 Chain Saw - High Performance Compact Chainsaw | STIHL USA

this one is nice! i saw it in ace hardware and that is the one i would want. i like the 18inch bar. not to big and not to small.

Dec 30, 2012#30

lawn mower fanatic

metz12 said:
this one is nice! i saw it in ace hardware and that is the one i would want. i like the 18inch bar. not to big and not to small.

Why wouldn't you want a bar on your chainsaw like this one?? :laughing::laughing:

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/vagpr1961/big-chainsaw.jpg)

Dec 30, 2012#31

metz12

lawn mower fanatic said:
Why wouldn't you want a bar on your chainsaw like this one?? :laughing::laughing:
View attachment 10661
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/vagpr1961/big-chainsaw.jpg)

imagine the kickback on that baby if it caught on the wood? shew, that would NOT be fun! (that chain must be expensive too!!!)

Dec 30, 2012#32

Ric

metz12 said:
this one is nice! i saw it in ace hardware and that is the one i would want. i like the 18inch bar. not to big and not to small.

I've got the 16" bar and I really like mine, like you said not to big, not to small.

Dec 30, 2012#33

lawn mower fanatic

metz12 said:
(that chain must be expensive too!!!)

Yeah, seriously! :redface:

Dec 30, 2012#34

metz12

Ric said:
I've got the 16" bar and I really like mine, like you said not to big, not to small.

that size is whats on my homelite. I like it for a ground saw. i dont like taking it to jobs though since i usually run my husqvarna 345(18" bar) and thats a 50:1 ratio when my homelite runs on 32:1 ratio.

Dec 31, 2012#35

Ric

metz12 said:
that size is whats on my homelite. I like it for a ground saw. i dont like taking it to jobs though since i usually run my husqvarna 345(18" bar) and thats a 50:1 ratio when my homelite runs on 32:1 ratio.

The Stihl's are all 50.1 ratio's and I know what you mean, it's nice to have everything the same ratio's, less fuel combinations to carry on the trailer. Does your Husqvarna except different size bars and blades?

Dec 31, 2012#36

pugaltitude

lawn mower fanatic said:
Why wouldn't you want a bar on your chainsaw like this one?? :laughing::laughing:
View attachment 10661
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/vagpr1961/big-chainsaw.jpg)

Imagine how long it would take to sharpen!!! :laughing:

Dec 31, 2012#37

metz12

Ric said:
The Stihl's are all 50.1 ratio's and I know what you mean, it's nice to have everything the same ratio's, less fuel combinations to carry on the trailer. Does your Husqvarna except different size bars and blades?

it does pretty well with a 20inch bar, my friend borrowed it and was dropping a tree (with the 18inch bar) and the tree pinched the bar on him, and it bent it. he put an extra 20inch bar and chain on it since he wrecked the other one, and it did pretty well with it. i have an 18inch on it now though. and like you said, it is nice having everything on the same ratio. my trimmers and my blower are both 40:1

Dec 31, 2012#38

lawn mower fanatic

metz12 said:
it does pretty well with a 20inch bar, my friend borrowed it and was dropping a tree (with the 18inch bar) and the tree pinched the bar on him, and it bent it. he put an extra 20inch bar and chain on it since he wrecked the other one, and it did pretty well with it. i have an 18inch on it now though. and like you said, it is nice having everything on the same ratio. my trimmers and my blower are both 40:1

Everything I use is one 2.6 oz. bottle of oil for 1 gallon of gas (50:1). As you said, it is nice having everything the same ratio.
This is the 2.6 oz. bottle of PowerBlend oil I use:

Jan 1, 2013#39

Kodie's Lawn Service

Ric said:
I purchased the MS 181 Stihl Home Owner Chain saw and it's never givin me any trouble in the two years that I've used it. Most of STIHL chain saws and there other products are built in the United States using domestic and foreign parts and components much like everything else that you buy today.
The big problem with people and chain saws at there time of purchase is that the majority spend and waste a lot of money on overkill.

I agree I have the 180 mini boss and it has never had anything go wrong

Jan 2, 2013#40

Briana

Welcome to LawnMowerForum!

I moved your thread to the Echo forum. :smile:

Jan 2, 2013#41

Ric

lawn mower fanatic said:
Everything I use is one 2.6 oz. bottle of oil for 1 gallon of gas (50:1). As you said, it is nice having everything the same ratio.
This is the 2.6 oz. bottle of PowerBlend oil I use: View attachment 10692

I'm not trying to tell you to change oil or anything because the Echo Power blend is good oil, but you know that Stihl sells oil in that size container also and you mite want to give it a try once, I think you'll find it runs a lot cleaner. I don't know how much oil you use but if you're buying your oil in that size container your spending about ten times as much money as you need to spend.

Jan 2, 2013#42

lawn mower fanatic

Ric said:
I'm not trying to tell you to change oil or anything because the Echo Power blend is good oil, but you know that Stihl sells oil in that size container also and you mite want to give it a try once, I think you'll find it runs a lot cleaner. I don't know how much oil you use but if you're buying your oil in that size container your spending about ten times as much money as you need to spend.

OK I might try that in the spring....thanks! I don't use that much oil, but now with my edger, I will be using more.

Jan 2, 2013#43

Ric

lawn mower fanatic said:
OK I might try that in the spring....thanks! I don't use that much oil, but now with my edger, I will be using more.

Just so you know buying by the 2.6oz bottle your paying like $145.53 a gallon, that's using the HD price of $2.97 per bottle. You can buy a gallon of the Echo Power blend for like $40 and it would probable last you all season and you would save a bunch of money. The Stihl I just picked up was $52 a gallon.

Jan 2, 2013#44

lawn mower fanatic

Ric said:
Just so you know buying by the 2.6oz bottle your paying like $145.53 a gallon, that's using the HD price of $2.97 per bottle. You can buy a gallon of the Echo Power blend for like $40 and it would probable last you all season and you would save a bunch of money. The Stihl I just picked up was $52 a gallon.

WOW that's a lot of :2cents::2cents::2cents::2cents: saved! :thumbsup:

Jan 2, 2013#45

Ric

lawn mower fanatic said:
WOW that's a lot of :2cents::2cents::2cents::2cents: saved! :thumbsup:

Yea it's saves you a lot of money if you can buy bulk, say nothing about all those trips to the store that you'll save gas on. Yea you wold have to buy 49 bottles at $2.97 a bottle to equal a gallon. That's a lot of trips to the store even if you buy it by the six pack.

Jan 19, 2013#46

F

Fastshivy

I have had all 3 Stihl, Echo, Husqvarna Echo always started and ran good did not cut as well as the other 2 Always had problems with Stihl oilers and starting, cases seem to leak....cutting was good...I kept my husky, love it balanced better, cuts better. All but echo are pro models I cut at least 1x per week. With Husky and Stihl it is really Ford or Chevy. Parts are easier to find on the Husky if you buy on the internet. Echo is a good brand for a home owner

Jan 19, 2013#47

H

hrvata

I have a Stihl about 4 years old with hardly more than 10 hours on it. It stopped oiling the chain, so I took it in to the dealer. He told me it would be better to buy a new one, that the repair costs are estimated to be about $170.00 I e-mailed Stihl, but have yet to hear from them. Never again will I buy a Stihl product.

Jan 19, 2013#48

lawn mower fanatic

hrvata said:
I have a Stihl about 4 years old with hardly more than 10 hours on it. It stopped oiling the chain, so I took it in to the dealer. He told me it would be better to buy a new one, that the repair costs are estimated to be about $170.00 I e-mailed Stihl, but have yet to hear from them. Never again will I buy a Stihl product.

What brand would you consider buying since it won't be Stihl?

Jan 19, 2013#49

metz12

hrvata said:
I have a Stihl about 4 years old with hardly more than 10 hours on it. It stopped oiling the chain, so I took it in to the dealer. He told me it would be better to buy a new one, that the repair costs are estimated to be about $170.00 I e-mailed Stihl, but have yet to hear from them. Never again will I buy a Stihl product.

get a husqvarna. they have dealersm all around. i loved mine (until my buddy dropped a tree on the thing). i think i will purchase another one at the end of winter. or try to get a used one.

Jan 19, 2013#50

R

rms61moparman

Man!!!

There sure is a lot of mis-information in this thread!!!

To the Original Poster...the CS-400 Echo is a real nice saw for homeowner use and is a much better design than anything Stihl has in that class.

Mike

Jan 19, 2013#51

M

ModernMode

I'm an amateur Stihl 017 owner for about 11 years. I've been very satisfied with it, though the spark arrester screen clogs out at the worst times. I would say if you're going to buy a cheaper brand, make sure it has vibration control. My father bought one without it and it made my hand go numb. I absolutely hated sharpening or having my chains sharpened so I switched over to Oregon Powersharp bar and chain. Now I sharpen it with the clip-on attachment and it only takes 3 seconds. When you do buy a new chain, a new sharpening stone comes with it. I'll never go back to a traditional chain.

Jan 19, 2013#52

H

hrvata

I'm still using the Homelite XL-2 that I bought in 1969. I changed the fuel lines and rebuilt the carb, but the saw still runs and very good I might add. It is the model with a 12" bar and the double throttle trigger. I basically bought the Stihl for a bigger saw (16"). I might check to see if someone else can make the necessary repairs for less. Supposedly it needs oil line replacement and carb work.
That seems awful expensive to repair just those items. I'll wait to see if Stihl gets back to me. I could always put a "JUNK" sign on it and set it out on the front lawn.

Jan 20, 2013#53

D

dehli farms

do they still make a two cylinder saw, they used to make them for john deere?

Jan 20, 2013#54

Kodie's Lawn Service

dehli farms said:
do they still make a two cylinder saw, they used to make them for john deere?

I have never seen a 2 cylinder one would be cool though :thumbsup:

Jan 21, 2013#55

H

hrvata

Fastshivy said:
I have had all 3 Stihl, Echo, Husqvarna Echo always started and ran good did not cut as well as the other 2 Always had problems with Stihl oilers and starting, cases seem to leak....cutting was good...I kept my husky, love it balanced better, cuts better. All but echo are pro models I cut at least 1x per week. With Husky and Stihl it is really Ford or Chevy. Parts are easier to find on the Husky if you buy on the internet. Echo is a good brand for a home owner

I heard that Stihl had oiler problems, but I guess I hoped to be lucky. Well it didn't happen and now I have a worthless saw since the dealer suggested buying a new one.

Jan 21, 2013#56

Kodie's Lawn Service

hrvata said:
I heard that Stihl had oiler problems, but I guess I hoped to be lucky. Well it didn't happen and now I have a worthless saw since the dealer suggested buying a new one.

To fix that problem take and run a thiner oil

Jan 21, 2013#57

Hand2ThePlow

I've owned a Husqvarna 142 for about 3 years and probably wouldn't buy another. It was replaced once and repaired twice under warrenty for leaking bar oil like the Exxon Valdez. It's currently in the shop again for the oil leak.

My son bought a EFCO at a local box store on clearance and I thought he'd make a mistake. I'd never heard of EFCO and was surprised at how well this saw performed. When it comes down to it we own chain saws to cut wood and this saw cut tree for tree, limb for limb with my brother in law's Stihl 025. It never lacked power and runs very smoothly.

I'm not suggesting that the EFCO is an equal to the Stihl,when it comes to chain adjustment or replacement, field repairs and the sort, it's hard to beat a Stihl. Not to mention their dealer network. But if price is an issue, the EFCO is a better alternative to the Stihl than a Husq or other "name" brands I've owned or operated.

My 2 cents worth :smile:

Jan 21, 2013#58

M

ModernMode

I own an stihl 017 with carrying case. I've always had to keep a paper towel under the saw when in the case because the bar oil leaks. Since this is the only saw I've ever owned I assumed that was normal. Is it?

Jan 21, 2013#59

pugaltitude

Hand2ThePlow said:
I've owned a Husqvarna 142 for about 3 years and probably wouldn't buy another. It was replaced once and repaired twice under warrenty for leaking bar oil like the Exxon Valdez. It's currently in the shop again for the oil leak.

My son bought a EFCO at a local box store on clearance and I thought he'd make a mistake. I'd never heard of EFCO and was surprised at how well this saw performed. When it comes down to it we own chain saws to cut wood and this saw cut tree for tree, limb for limb with my brother in law's Stihl 025. It never lacked power and runs very smoothly.

I'm not suggesting that the EFCO is an equal to the Stihl,when it comes to chain adjustment or replacement, field repairs and the sort, it's hard to beat a Stihl. Not to mention their dealer network. But if price is an issue, the EFCO is a better alternative to the Stihl than a Husq or other "name" brands I've owned or operated.

My 2 cents worth :smile:

Efco are an Italian brand made by a company called Emak.
The Emak name comes from when Efco and Oleomac joined together to make Emak in the 70s.
Some of their product is on par if not better than certain stihl and husqvarna product.

Emak also own an engine company called tecomec.
Stihl use tecomec engines in some of their product.
Very reliable but is getting is expensive considering some production is in china like all manufacturers.

Jan 21, 2013#60

Hand2ThePlow

After use you should expect some oil to seap out but I've never owned a saw (other than my Husq) that starts draining the tank everytime you set the saw down

. I owned a Craftsman saw for 20 years and it never leaked a drop. My BIL owns 3 Stihls and my boy's EFCO don't leak either. So I guess my experience is that no, leaking oil isn't "normal"

Jan 22, 2013#61

R

RacinJason

Hi guys (and girls?)
I bought a Husquevarna Rancher 460 from Lowes last summer. I have been bucking Ash, Beech, Yellow Birch (several cords). I put a 24" bar on it and have been ripping lumber with my Alaskan Mill that I purchased from Bailey's. It works fine. A little underpowered for milling 2 foot logs, but a bigger (more axpensive) saw is recommended for doing that.
For you guys looking for a small homeowners saw, Bailey's is selling the last of the Echo 12" Top Handle saws. You may still be able to get one in the Big Box store. For a homeowner with yard duty, who needs more than 12"? Can't wait for the replies to that!

My Craftsman 2.0 that I bought from my friend back during the 1970's oil crisis served me well till last year, when I seized the wristpin while ripping the edge of an Elm log with a Harbor Freight attachment. No fault of the saw (made by Poulan), as I was runnung it at extreme RPMs, due, I found out, to a slipped reed causing it to run erratically. I found one on ebay for $60 with a 14" bar and put a new 12" bar and chain on it. Hard to find that size. I caried my original saw in my Jeep for years, clearing trails of trees and branches often larger than 12 inches. I even ran over it with the Jeep and cracked one of the housings.
Arborists, and myself, love the top handle saws up in the trees, as you can saw with one hand. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!

Sorry for the long post. racinjason1@verizon.net

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