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cub cadet xt1 46inch. Leaves blowing out under the deck vs bagged

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lma

Hi, Bought one of these about a month ago. Have been pleased with it till now. With the leaves down, decided to use the bagger (which I always have done), and although it seems to have really good lift, it blows many more leaves out the bottom of the deck (primarily to right) than I expected. I'd say 50/50 on bagging vs blowing leaves!
Have never owned a cub cadet, so I dont know if this is typical or not. I've own and MTD and more recently a craftsman, which, although clogged easier, it didn't blow nearly as many out under the deck. . I have the blades that came with it.

Does this sound right to you guys? any recommendations?

thanks.


#2

gotomow

gotomow

I'm confused. Do you have high lift bagging blades on now?


#3

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lma

yes. the ones that came with the tractor, which I was/am told are the high lift bagging blades


#4

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Rivets

Did those high lift blades come with the tractor or the bagging unit? Can you post the part number on the blade, so we can check if they are actually high lift blades? Also please post the model and serial numbers for both the tractor and the bagging unit. It’s not that we don’t believe what you are telling us, but we like to double check everything to give you the most accurate repair Suggestions.


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lma

yes. they came with the tractor. I was assured they by cub cadet they were high lift. I'll post those part numbers tomorrow.


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Raymon1943

lma said:
Hi, Bought one of these about a month ago. Have been pleased with it till now. With the leaves down, decided to use the bagger (which I always have done), and although it seems to have really good lift, it blows many more leaves out the bottom of the deck (primarily to right) than I expected. I'd say 50/50 on bagging vs blowing leaves!
Have never owned a cub cadet, so I dont know if this is typical or not. I've own and MTD and more recently a craftsman, which, although clogged easier, it didn't blow nearly as many out under the deck. . I have the blades that came with it.

Does this sound right to you guys? any recommendations?

thanks.
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This problem has nothing to do with the blades. The problem is in the design of the mower deck; the air flow is faulty. They make a deflector for the 50" deck; part number is 703-05783-0637. I have a 46' deck and I am currently trying to find the part number for a deflector that fits my deck. I formerly has CC model 2130 with a bagger; the bagger worked perfectly. I have had numerous discussions with CC with no help.

This bagger is not near the quality of my old bagger.; cheaply made. Every time I use this bagger I regret buying it. I cannot believe Cub Cadet would sell such an inferior product and put their name on it. I have been a loyal CC customer for 30 years. Most likely, this will be my last CC product.


#7

gotomow

gotomow

I have a ton of leaves all in my yard. When I was shopping for my tractor I read the reviews of the cub bagger. The reviews seemed very polarized, either love or hate. That's why I went with the Deere.


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Rivets

The old CC were built by Cub, but what you purchased is probably a Yardmachine, painted yellow built by MTD.


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Raymon1943

gotomow said:
I have a ton of leaves all in my yard. When I was shopping for my tractor I read the reviews of the cub bagger. The reviews seemed very polarized, either love or hate. That's why I went with the Deere.
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I do not know any thing about the quality for the John Deere baggers. They surely cannot be any worse than the CC baggers.


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PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

Do you have to bag? Because mulching is very good for your yard. From what I understand, it adds 25% of free fertilizer to the grass.


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bertsmobile1

Unless the mower has some sort of extra fan on it no multi purpose deck bags properly
Add to that most only work really well when set very low which is bad for the lawn .

To get really good bagging you need to to to some thing like a Walker


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Raymon1943

bertsmobile1 said:
Unless the mower has some sort of extra fan on it no multi purpose deck bags properly
Add to that most only work really well when set very low which is bad for the lawn .

To get really good bagging you need to to to some thing like a Walker
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I think the reason the newer baggers don't work as well as the older baggers is due to the use of less quality materials and cheaper designs. My old bagger worked exceptionally well. It was a much more high quality unit. Even the mounting/lifting mechanism was far superior on my old tractor. CC needs to completely redesign the new mower deck and bagger. I am a mechanical engineer and designed many types of equipment working in plant engineering in a large factory that employed 2800 people. I know what a cheap design looks like. This tractor and bagger are cheaply designed. CC has to lower costs to compete with all the other cheaper competitors. I should have made a more thorough inspection of the tractor. I never saw the bagger until I took it out of the box to assemble. I trusted CC to sell a quality product. My mistake.


#13

gotomow

gotomow

My JD x350 bags great, mulches great. I especially love the mulch on demand feature. That said I have the 42". JD recommendation on the 48" is for blower assist


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bertsmobile1

As an engineer you should appreciate the different air flow requirements of the different types of decks
As I have been trying to make people understand "universal" generally means "just as bad at everything" .
But Joe Public would rather save $ 100 and get a universal deck than buy a product that actually works properly .
So the mower companies stopped making them .
As for quality again you should know that good is never cheap and cheap is seldom good .
But while he bulk of the buying public continue to buy trash then factories will make cheaper trash every year.
If you visit this site frequently you will regularly see cheapskates posting the question along the lines of
"Which tractor under $ 1000 is the better "
or
"my budget is $ 2000 & I need a 60" deck to mw my x acres what should I buy "

Give them an honest answer will generally result in abuse either on the forum or via a PM .

In the USA as far as I can see from the limited ones we get down here it is either Toro or JD for tractors everything else is land fill temporarily diverted to your grass .


#15

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Raymon1943

bertsmobile1 said:
As an engineer you should appreciate the different air flow requirements of the different types of decks
As I have been trying to make people understand "universal" generally means "just as bad at everything" .
But Joe Public would rather save $ 100 and get a universal deck than buy a product that actually works properly .
So the mower companies stopped making them .
As for quality again you should know that good is never cheap and cheap is seldom good .
But while he bulk of the buying public continue to buy trash then factories will make cheaper trash every year.
If you visit this site frequently you will regularly see cheapskates posting the question along the lines of
"Which tractor under $ 1000 is the better "
or
"my budget is $ 2000 & I need a 60" deck to mw my x acres what should I buy "

Give them an honest answer will generally result in abuse either on the forum or via a PM .

In the USA as far as I can see from the limited ones we get down here it is either Toro or JD for tractors everything else is land fill temporarily diverted to your grass .
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Good post! I like a bargain, but I always say "you pay for what you get". Buy cheap; get junk. I do not buy because of price. When I bought my old CC tractor I paid $250 more than a comparable JD. The CC had more good features such as an hour meter and I thought was the best value at that time. Things do change.


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bertsmobile1

CC were part of International tractors
When Case ( ? ) bought inter they flogged off all of the non agricultural bits .
Trucks became Aveco and Cub launched as a stand alone
MTD eventually gobbled them up and from that day on they slowly slid down the rubbish slope into the cess pool to become just another MTD painted in different colours


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Raymon1943

bertsmobile1 said:
CC were part of International tractors
When Case ( ? ) bought inter they flogged off all of the non agricultural bits .
Trucks became Aveco and Cub launched as a stand alone
MTD eventually gobbled them up and from that day on they slowly slid down the rubbish slope into the cess pool to become just another MTD painted in different colours
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Unfortunately, the same whith most things now days.


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