Carb for HRX217K6HZA

Chris Parman

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Classic surge, won't idle. Doing this for my daughter's boyfriend, he bought the mower last season, put it away without draining the fuel or using sta-bil. I'm sure the inside is totally gacked and sounds like it's cheaper and easier just to replace the carb. Small engine carbs are so cheap now, doesn't make sense to mess with them.

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On the contrary, At around $60 (OEM part) its more cost effective to dissemble and clean it up for free (at first try). If you have Skills and you are careful you can by a Ultrasonic cleaner (harbor fright) use that to clean all the parts. Think of it this way, if you at least try to rebuild it you will learn something about the Carburetor. I don't think the mower is that old it just needs a good cleaning. It just takes a little more effort and skill to go beyond just being a parts changer. There are plenty of U-tube videos out there and read the post by robert@honda called "How To Clean A Honda Carburetor" that pertains to carburetor cleaning in case you choose this route. I've been rebuilding these type of carburetors for years, mostly the commercial grade carburetors which are slightly more complicated. One note to mention, you will have to take out the Jet and emulsion tube prior to cleaning to do the job right. The key areas are the passage ways in the main body, Jet and Emulsion tube. Those single areas or a combination of all three lead to surging issues in one form or another.
 
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On the contrary, At around $60 (OEM part) its more cost effective to dissemble and clean it up for free (at first try). If you have Skills and you are careful you can by a Ultrasonic cleaner (harbor fright) use that to clean all the parts. Think of it this way, if you at least try to rebuild it you will learn something about the Carburetor. I don't think the mower is that old it just needs a good cleaning. It just takes a little more effort and skill to go beyond just being a parts changer. There are plenty of U-tube videos out there and read the post by robert@honda called "How To Clean A Honda Carburetor" that pertains to carburetor cleaning in case you choose this route. I've been rebuilding these type of carburetors for years, mostly the commercial grade carburetors which are slightly more complicated. One note to mention, you will have to take out the Jet and emulsion tube prior to cleaning to do the job right. The key areas are the passage ways in the main body, Jet and Emulsion tube. Those single areas or a combination of all three lead to surging issues in one form or another.

Hi Chris,

Based on your previous post an ultrasonic clean will set me back X amount of dollars, carb cleaner another X amount of dollars plus the time invested and still not be guaranteed the engine is going to run correctly. If I was doing small engine repair for a living it would be logical to try to clean/rebuild carbs before replacing. Based on the "How to clean a Honda carb" article, the author even cites that if the pilot screw is gone, it's cheaper to replace than rebuild.

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monkman CoMo, Heh, that almost never happens unless the Carburetor is sooo old and neglected as hell. I never typed that you "Had" to buy a Ultrasonic cleaner. Just buy some carburetor cleaner and have at it. So you are out $3 to $5 if it doesn't work right....What the F%$k, Dude. And if you slay the Surge monster you'll have self gratification and a notch on your belt.
 
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I'll give it a whirl this weekend, worst case scenario is a few minutes of time and if it does work, I'll just send the new one back. Supposed to rain all weekend here and with NASCAR on hold, what the heck!

I'll keep you posted, thanks Chris!
 

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I'll give it a whirl this weekend, worst case scenario is a few minutes of time and if it does work, I'll just send the new one back. Supposed to rain all weekend here and with NASCAR on hold, what the heck!

I'll keep you posted, thanks Chris!

Best of luck you, Sir. If you need assistance hit me up I'm pretty much on this forum from time to time. If you need to talk by other means just let me know. Or send it to me and I'll rebuild it for less. I kinda like doing these things it keeps me busy and I don't mind helping people out and giving back to society.
 
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Thanks Chris!

Back in my younger days I rebuilt more carbs than I could count both for lawn mowers and cars. You're right, there is a sense of accomplishment after you tear something apart and make it functional again. We'll see how this works out and I'll keep you posted.

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Hi Chris,

Got it knocked out today. Had to soak all of the parts in carb cleaner for an hour because of varnish build up. The other thing I learned was once I got the card off, it is actually the J61 A model carb which was put on newer models of this mower. She now purrs like a kitten both at high and low speed. It worked out good also because the boyfriend was over when I took it apart and I think he learned a good lesson about how to prep your lawn care equipment for the off season. Needless to say the new carb will be going back.

Thank you again for your knowledge and support, stay healthy!
 

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Rock on, Brother. I'd like to see a video of that mower running after the cleaning.
 
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