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Carb for HRX217K6HZA

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monkman CoMo

I need a replacement carb for my Honda mower. It is one of the newer GCV200 engines. I found 2 part numbers and not sure which one to order. The options are:

1. 16100-Z9M-811 (BB76G A)
2. 16100-Z9M-J61 (BB76L A)

I have no idea what the difference is, but want to get the correct one.

Any help would be great appreciated!


#2

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Chris Parman

Here is what you can do. Provide me the Model number and VIN of your Lawn mower.

Here's the deal if the VIN is:

MAMA-1000001-1158895 -> 16100-Z9M-811
MAMA-1158896-9999999 -> 16100-Z9M-J61


#3

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monkman CoMo

Hi Chris,

Thank you for the quick response. I am at work right now but will reply with the VIN when I get home tonight. What is the difference between the 2 carbs?

Be safe!


#4

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Chris Parman

monkman CoMo said:
Hi Chris,

Thank you for the quick response. I am at work right now but will reply with the VIN when I get home tonight. What is the difference between the 2 carbs?

Be safe!
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I do not know what the differences are. I'm good but not that good. If you need to be that granular, you can always call Honda Power Equipment headquarters in Atlanta and ask to speak to a Engineer per the differences.


#5

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monkman CoMo

LOL! And wait on hold for 2 hours, no thanks. It's weird that for an engine that isn't that old that they have 2 different carbs. Thanks again for your help!


#6

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bertsmobile1

Not really
A problem that was not apparent when testing was done appears when the engines ae used so a new one is designed.
The manufacturer of the early one could not keep up supply
Lots of reasons to have more than one carb
L while back the Californian engines had a better, ( much more expensive ) carb than the rest of the USA, or the world for that matter.


#7

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mechanic mark

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#8

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monkman CoMo

VIN MAMA-1139696 so the 811 it is. Anything I need to watch out for swapping this?

Thanks once again for all of the help!


#9

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Chris Parman

monkman CoMo said:
VIN MAMA-1139696 so the 811 it is. Anything I need to watch out for swapping this?

Thanks once again for all of the help!
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Can I ask you this (I didn't ask this before), how did you determine that the Carburetor is faulty?


#10

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monkman CoMo

Classic surge, won't idle. Doing this for my daughter's boyfriend, he bought the mower last season, put it away without draining the fuel or using sta-bil. I'm sure the inside is totally gacked and sounds like it's cheaper and easier just to replace the carb. Small engine carbs are so cheap now, doesn't make sense to mess with them.

Cheers, be safe everyone!


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Chris Parman

monkman CoMo said:
Classic surge, won't idle. Doing this for my daughter's boyfriend, he bought the mower last season, put it away without draining the fuel or using sta-bil. I'm sure the inside is totally gacked and sounds like it's cheaper and easier just to replace the carb. Small engine carbs are so cheap now, doesn't make sense to mess with them.

Cheers, be safe everyone!
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On the contrary, At around $60 (OEM part) its more cost effective to dissemble and clean it up for free (at first try). If you have Skills and you are careful you can by a Ultrasonic cleaner (harbor fright) use that to clean all the parts. Think of it this way, if you at least try to rebuild it you will learn something about the Carburetor. I don't think the mower is that old it just needs a good cleaning. It just takes a little more effort and skill to go beyond just being a parts changer. There are plenty of U-tube videos out there and read the post by robert@honda called "How To Clean A Honda Carburetor" that pertains to carburetor cleaning in case you choose this route. I've been rebuilding these type of carburetors for years, mostly the commercial grade carburetors which are slightly more complicated. One note to mention, you will have to take out the Jet and emulsion tube prior to cleaning to do the job right. The key areas are the passage ways in the main body, Jet and Emulsion tube. Those single areas or a combination of all three lead to surging issues in one form or another.


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mechanic mark

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#13

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monkman CoMo

Chris Parman said:
On the contrary, At around $60 (OEM part) its more cost effective to dissemble and clean it up for free (at first try). If you have Skills and you are careful you can by a Ultrasonic cleaner (harbor fright) use that to clean all the parts. Think of it this way, if you at least try to rebuild it you will learn something about the Carburetor. I don't think the mower is that old it just needs a good cleaning. It just takes a little more effort and skill to go beyond just being a parts changer. There are plenty of U-tube videos out there and read the post by robert@honda called "How To Clean A Honda Carburetor" that pertains to carburetor cleaning in case you choose this route. I've been rebuilding these type of carburetors for years, mostly the commercial grade carburetors which are slightly more complicated. One note to mention, you will have to take out the Jet and emulsion tube prior to cleaning to do the job right. The key areas are the passage ways in the main body, Jet and Emulsion tube. Those single areas or a combination of all three lead to surging issues in one form or another.
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Hi Chris,

Based on your previous post an ultrasonic clean will set me back X amount of dollars, carb cleaner another X amount of dollars plus the time invested and still not be guaranteed the engine is going to run correctly. If I was doing small engine repair for a living it would be logical to try to clean/rebuild carbs before replacing. Based on the "How to clean a Honda carb" article, the author even cites that if the pilot screw is gone, it's cheaper to replace than rebuild.

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Cheers,


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Chris Parman

monkman CoMo, Heh, that almost never happens unless the Carburetor is sooo old and neglected as hell. I never typed that you "Had" to buy a Ultrasonic cleaner. Just buy some carburetor cleaner and have at it. So you are out $3 to $5 if it doesn't work right....What the F%$k, Dude. And if you slay the Surge monster you'll have self gratification and a notch on your belt.


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monkman CoMo

I'll give it a whirl this weekend, worst case scenario is a few minutes of time and if it does work, I'll just send the new one back. Supposed to rain all weekend here and with NASCAR on hold, what the heck!

I'll keep you posted, thanks Chris!


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Chris Parman

monkman CoMo said:
I'll give it a whirl this weekend, worst case scenario is a few minutes of time and if it does work, I'll just send the new one back. Supposed to rain all weekend here and with NASCAR on hold, what the heck!

I'll keep you posted, thanks Chris!
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Best of luck you, Sir. If you need assistance hit me up I'm pretty much on this forum from time to time. If you need to talk by other means just let me know. Or send it to me and I'll rebuild it for less. I kinda like doing these things it keeps me busy and I don't mind helping people out and giving back to society.


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monkman CoMo

Thanks Chris!

Back in my younger days I rebuilt more carbs than I could count both for lawn mowers and cars. You're right, there is a sense of accomplishment after you tear something apart and make it functional again. We'll see how this works out and I'll keep you posted.

Cheers,


#18

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monkman CoMo

Hi Chris,

Got it knocked out today. Had to soak all of the parts in carb cleaner for an hour because of varnish build up. The other thing I learned was once I got the card off, it is actually the J61 A model carb which was put on newer models of this mower. She now purrs like a kitten both at high and low speed. It worked out good also because the boyfriend was over when I took it apart and I think he learned a good lesson about how to prep your lawn care equipment for the off season. Needless to say the new carb will be going back.

Thank you again for your knowledge and support, stay healthy!


#19

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Chris Parman

Rock on, Brother. I'd like to see a video of that mower running after the cleaning.


#20

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monkman CoMo

Here you go Chris!



#21

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Chris Parman

Sounds very good Sir. I like the RPM meter right there so you can see it. That's one of those polymer decks I didn't know they flex like that. I just got in from doing some media blasting on a HR214 aluminum deck, now I need to shower this coal slag off me. :)


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monkman CoMo

The RPM meter is going back on my Toro, I only hooked it up to make sure the the rpm's were within specs :). Have a great night Chris!


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