Briggs 16 hp. Is it worth salvaging?

Rivets

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I agree, but if he has a mic, he can measure it himself and we can tell him how to proceed and save him a bit of $$$.
 

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Thanks guys for that discussion on the crank, it helps a lot. I have a digital caliper and that is it. It might help with the crank measurement, but not the cylinder.

I was just looking at the parts on the bench and noticed that both valves are closed tight. I didn't think they should be closed at the same time. If you look at the photos above, you can probably spot it in the picture where the push rods are pointing strait up into the air. I wonder if they got smacked by the piston pushing them both closed. They are jammed in there pretty tight. No signs of a hit on the piston tho.

I have been doing up a parts list for the rebuild and will check prices before I order anything. I can buy a brand new 19 hp motor for about $500 that comes with a two year warranty, so I can't see me investing more than a couple hundred in parts for a rebuild. Just not worth it.
 

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valves are sometimes closed at the same time like the compression stroke and the power stroke but the reason both of yours is closed is because you have the head off so the push rods can't hold the valves open so thats normal
 

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If you can get a new engine for $500 go for it. Rebuilding will not be worth yours or our time.
 

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Thanks again guys. I have a parts list done up and will check prices on line tomorrow. I think I will watch the listings as well and see if I can get a used motor to put in. Just missed one last Friday a guy was giving away his tractor with a 15 hp motor because the transmission was shot. Never know, maybe I could have used his motor and it was free. I hate missing out on those.
 

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Post the list for us.
 

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Post the list for us.

Attached is my parts list. Sorry it didn't format too well I did it as a spreadsheet then copied it into Notepad to get the proper formatting (.txt file) allowed for uploading to the site.

The crankshaft is shown as no longer available, so I used a price from a similar model just so I could arrive at a representative price range. I also included a carb kit because I would not put it back together without overhauling the carb. I suspect there may be a few additional parts, feel free to suggest anything I have missed.

At this price, I would not go ahead with the rebuild, simply not worth it given I have no experience and could easily mess things up. I am disappointed because it would have been fun. If I could get the cost down, I would love to give it a try.
 

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i think you can probably look around and find a used crank then it may be worth it but your right at that price find another engine
 

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i think you can probably look around and find a used crank then it may be worth it but your right at that price find another engine

I am trying to find a local boneyard to pick over and will watch for used parts on the local listings. I haven't given up yet, but have to keep the cost down. It is just not worth too much money to put into a ten year old tractor. I just might go with my original idea and part it out and save the mower deck. We will see.
 

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I have found a 14 hp motor to replace my 16 hp. The 16 hp was Mod. 311777, Type 0209-E1, Code 011211ZD. The 14 hp replacement is Mod. 287707, Type 0224-01, Code 97011ZD.

So, the replacement is a little older, but said to be in good shape. I cannot locate much on the web to compare the two models, I can only find info on the newer motors on the Briggs site.

Any opinions on whether or not the 14 hp is a suitable replacement to the 16. I can't get the 14 hp till next Monday.
 
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