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317 won't turn over

#1

Mwh0428

Mwh0428

My 317 won't turn over all that i hear is the solenoid click and that's it i'm getting about 13 volts at the post on the starter. Im pretty sure its the starter but would john deere have all the parts to rebuild it or should i buy a new one.


#2

R

Rivets

You don't say the make and model numbers of the engine. That would help us a lot. I have rebuilt starters for year and sometimes it is cheaper to replace. Have you tried jumping directly to the starter. If the starter spins the engine over when jumping, you may have a bad solenoid or are losing power due to bad wires or ground.


#3

I

ILENGINE

The 317 should have a Kohler KT17 engine. Make sure that you have good connections on both ends of the ground wire. If after jumping directly to the starter and it still doesn't crank the engine then I would replace the starter.


#4

Mwh0428

Mwh0428

It is a 317 with a 18 hp kohler magnum heres the numbers
Model m18
Spec 24541
Serial 2012205916

Today i ran a wire from the negative post on the battery to the motor mount and another wire from positive post to the post on the starter and it would not turn over.
And i also engaged the pto after i did this and was able to turn the motor by hand.


#5

EngineMan

EngineMan

You may just need a set of brush's.......some info to help you. and if you need more help, just call out..!

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#6

Mwh0428

Mwh0428

Will john deere or kohler have the brushes? If not then who


#7

Mwh0428

Mwh0428

And how can i tell that that's what's wrong?


#8

R

Rivets

The brushes will be a Kohler part. You will be able to see it when you open the starter up. Have you ever done this before? Putting the starter back together is not easy and you may want to have a mechanic do this job.


#9

EngineMan

EngineMan

And how can i tell that that's what's wrong?


If you are asking this question then you hav'nt done it before. like post#8 find someone who has.


#10

BKBrown

BKBrown

Not sure if this could be it, but I had a 318 that would occasionally not return (pull them back off the flywheel) the starter gears that engaged the flywheel.

The solenoid kept the gears engaged with the flywheel. I found that the solenoid/starter shaft needed some lube and once that moved freely the problem went away for a while.

The 317 / 318 are great tractors and if I did not need 4WD and lower center of gravity for my hills - I would probably still have that tractor.

Hope you don't need a new starter - they are not fun to work on in that tractor.

Keep us informed ! :thumbsup:


#11

Mwh0428

Mwh0428

I am going to call around and see if I could get it rebuilt or get a new one.

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#12

Mwh0428

Mwh0428

got the starter rebuilt for $100 a kohler repair shop wanted $250 and they were going for $200 on eBay


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