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1554 keeps throwing deck belt when first engaged

#1

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jarbalojim

Every time I engage the PTO belt drive it throws the belt. What's weird is it's only the first or maybe 2nd time. I put the belt back on and it works fine until I shut it down for several minutes or overnight, then it throws it again. I put a new spring on it but that didn't help. Any ideas?


#2

StarTech

StarTech

I have seen bearings to seize while sitting under tension. I know sounds dumb a bad place in a bearing may only show up on the initial startup. I have seen this to snap Kevlar belts on Husqvarna where the customer lost several belts before I found the idler pulley that was causing. I have learned to check these bearings by feel. If I feel even the slight catch I replace them.


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Rivets

I have to agree with Star on this one. I’ve seen this more than once where the spindle bearing start out tight, but after they warm up no problems.


#4

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slomo

Agree on the worn parts. Replace all the bearings, idlers and spindles you have. If one is going the rest are not far away. Also use the OEM belt/s.


#5

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jarbalojim

Very
I have seen bearings to seize while sitting under tension. I know sounds dumb a bad place in a bearing may only show up on the initial startup. I have seen this to snap Kevlar belts on Husqvarna where the customer lost several belts before I found the idler pulley that was causing. I have learned to check these bearings by feel. If I feel even the slight catch I replace them.
Very good! I never thought of that, I will check all the bearings! Thank you!


#6

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jarbalojim

I have to agree with Star on this one. I’ve seen this more than once where the spindle bearing start out tight, but after they warm up no problems.
Excellent, thanks!


#7

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jarbalojim

Agree on the worn parts. Replace all the bearings, idlers and spindles you have. If one is going the rest are not far away. Also use the OEM belt/s.
The engine shroud has been pulled, everything cleaned, thanks. It has a new OEM belt and spring.


#8

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jarbalojim

The engine shroud has been pulled, everything cleaned, thanks. It has a new OEM belt and spring.
The blade head splindles are $100- a piece if not more, I know for sure the outside 2 are fine but will check the tension pulley and inside spindle.


#9

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slomo

The blade head splindles are $100- a piece if not more, I know for sure the outside 2 are fine but will check the tension pulley and inside spindle.
$100 each? That is less than a half tank of gas these days. Get all of them and a couple spares.


#10

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bertsmobile1

When I have one of these mystery problems , I grab the Go-Pro knock off camera , clamp it to the mower frame then go mow or in your case turn the PTO on & off till the belt comes off
then pop the memory card in the computer & play it back full speed to find where the belt jumped off , then rewind just that section and go through it a 1/2 speed
Don't be tempted to do it in single frame mode as 15 minutes in single frame takes about 10 hours to step through.
Some times I need to make a couple of videos if it looks like the problem was out of frame the first time.

Of course an assistant can be used to man the mower & in that case just be careful around the discharge side of the deck .


#11

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jarbalojim

$100 each? That is less than a half tank of gas these days. Get all of them and a couple spares.
Idk, I fill my vehicles all the time and it's less than $70 a fill up, anywho from what I can tell it's not the spindles, they all spin freely as do the tension pulleys. I made sure everything was spinning freely before I started today and it still threw the belt. Thanks for you input however.


#12

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jarbalojim

Every time I engage the PTO belt drive it throws the belt. What's weird is it's only the first or maybe 2nd time. I put the belt back on and it works fine until I shut it down for several minutes or overnight, then it throws it again. I put a new spring on it but that didn't help. Any ideas?
Before I started today I made sure everything was spinning freely and it still threw the belt. I put it back on and mowed pretty much non stop for 4hours. I'll pull the deck soon and double check every spindle and tension pulley but I don't think that's the problem. I put a new OEM belt and spring on, nothing helps. It might just be something I will have to live with until I buy a new mower. I do appreciate your input and help!


#13

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waltn

I have a 1054. After replacing worn belt, the new one would occasionally come off
on engagement. After putting up with this a couple months, went looking. Discovered a belt
guard on an idler pulley was put on incorrectly. Put in correct place and has not came off sense.
By the way , had no one blame but me.


#14

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slomo

Something is foul because a new machine doesn't do this. Difference is your machine has wear and tear right?

Like the other guys stated, you need to listen and feel the bearings. Get a stethoscope if you have to and listen to each bearing. A visual glance is not sufficient.

Either something is not installed proper, missing parts or you have Chinese parts not working like OEM parts.......

V-belts - You can buy 6 of the same size and brand. Six supposed identical belts. Don't care what brand you buy. Put them on your pulleys. None of them are the same length/size. Little smidge here and a little there. Belt sizing makes a difference.

Are you mowing with a belt cover installed? If yours has one? Maybe grass and junk are getting inside the pulleys and tossing a belt? Are you cutting tall pasture grass or a manicured lawn? Do you have a ton of clippings on top of the deck all the time? If so you need to cut more often.


#15

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jarbalojim

I had a friend watch while I engaged the PTO, he said it looked like it jumped from the tensioner pulley. We noticed the bracket seemed to be loose. I removed the deck, took the bracket off, found stripped threads where it went thru the deck. I put a couple of washers to keep the nut away from the stripped threads, tighten it up, reinstalled and no more problems! Thanks guys for all you input!


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