Kohler’s EFI engine technology was first put into action by mower-maker Walker Manufacturing in 1998. Today, Kohler’s EFI System is available on seven different brands of commercial lawnmowers, and that number could grow to 19 by the end of this year.first off i dont believe kohler made EFI engines in 07...they still made DAS coils...Digital Advanced Spark...with external control box on the commands and electronics buried in the coils of the courage engines...if you have a 3 prong plug going to your coil its a DAS setup...the fix is to go back to conventional coils...kohler sells a kit to do this...the commands requires both the coils and flywheels to change and the courage just needs the coils changed out...the DAS was done to get more hp at the top end from a smaller engine...OEM Engines sells these kits
i did say i dont believe...didnt say it was a fact...was pointing out another possibility to the problem at hand...Kohler’s EFI engine technology was first put into action by mower-maker Walker Manufacturing in 1998. Today, Kohler’s EFI System is available on seven different brands of commercial lawnmowers, and that number could grow to 19 by the end of this year.
So yes it is possible that the DC has an EFI setup. But do need the model and spec numbers off the engine to be sure.
whats the actual male of the engine.. take a photo of the model no.and post it here...The engine # is ( 3611516501). I know the mower was made in 10/06 and sold in spring of 07. The model mower is XWF2700-60 Quad Loop . I say it's an EFI electronic fuel injected motor because I do not see a carb on it. I am leaning towards a coil going out because of the symptoms. Seems to start acting up after it warms up about 30 min. into cutting and the more strain or full cut or higher grass. It usually slows to about 1/2 throttle then speeds up to full throttle but does not hold 30 seconds then slows back down again. I hate to cut grass at 1/2 throttle or 1600 rpm. as I know that's hard on the engine. So far I have changed the fuel filter, cleaned air filter and tried no air filter momentarily, cleaned both spark plugs on one the tip was corroded cleaned that and pulled 1 spark plug at a time when running and each had an effect on engine speed so I think both cyls. are firing. Problem seems to arise when mower is at operating temp. and under load. It got so bad last time cutting the mower stopped problem seems to be getting worse with every use. I think I would like to get either a spark plug or a coil checker under load tester but do not know what brand is good.
It is a Kohler enginewhats the actual male of the engine.. take a photo of the model no.and post it here...
Thank-you for all that information HLW I will try to see if it has any codes. Never knew there was a way to read codes or that it had an ECM if I knew that I would have never bought it. I like old stuff that never breaks. Never knew that just dirt build up on an engine could put you in limp mode which is what I think it's doing. Maybe it could be as simple as washing the motor would cure it ?You are right with the engine serial no. it is a 2006. But first off if you suspect the spark plugs why would you try and clean them just replace them. Next read the blink codes. Beside the ignition switch there is a small light that lights up while the engine is running. To read the codes you turn the ign. switch on and off three times and leave it on the third time and it will blink a code. The trick to it is 10 flashes is 0. So say you have a code 0031 you would have 10 flashes a one second pause 10 flashes and a one second pause 3 flashes a one second pause and 1 flash. If you have multiple codes you would have a 3 second delay after the first code and them the next code. After it has flashed all the codes it will flash a code 61. This is telling you it has flashed all the codes or if it flashes 61 first it has no stored codes to read Those things did not give much trouble as long a no one messed with them and screwed things up. The biggest problem with them was the O2 sensor and that was rare. They run in open loop until the engine warms up them go to closed loop mode and that is where they run. That is unless you have a problem and then they will run in limp mode which is half throttle and it is only to get you back to the house or garage. Not to finish mowing the yard. By the way code 0031 is an O2 sensor code. Try unplugging the O2 sensor and see if it clears up. If so it is the O2 sensor. Here is a list of the codes does not list them like it should but I have double spaced between codes.
Diagnostic Fault Code Summary Fault Code Connection or Failure Description 0031 Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Low Voltage 0032 Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit High Voltage 0107 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP or TMAP) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage or Open 0108 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP or TMAP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage 0112 Intake Air Temperature (IAT or TMAP) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage 0113 Intake Air Temperature (IAT or TMAP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage or Open 0117 Coolant/Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit Low Voltage 0118 Coolant/Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit High Voltage or Open 0122 Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Low Voltage or Open 0123 Throttle Position Sensor Circuit High Voltage 0131 Oxygen Sensor 1 Circuit Low Voltage, or Open 0132 Oxygen Sensor 1 Circuit High Voltage 0171 Maximum Adaptation Limit Exceeded 0172 Minimum Adaptation Limit Exceeded 0174 Lean Fuel Condition at High Load (Open Loop) 0201 Injector 1 Circuit Malfunction 0202 Injector 2 Circuit Malfunction Hope this helps.
Well the engine's serial number posted comes comes back as a carbureted engine. (Single Barrel Carburetor PN 24 853 92-S superseded to 24 853 317-S)The engine # is ( 3611516501). I know the mower was made in 10/06 and sold in spring of 07. The model mower is XWF2700-60 Quad Loop . I say it's an EFI electronic fuel injected motor because I do not see a carb on it. I am leaning towards a coil going out because of the symptoms. Seems to start acting up after it warms up about 30 min. into cutting and the more strain or full cut or higher grass. It usually slows to about 1/2 throttle then speeds up to full throttle but does not hold 30 seconds then slows back down again. I hate to cut grass at 1/2 throttle or 1600 rpm. as I know that's hard on the engine. So far I have changed the fuel filter, cleaned air filter and tried no air filter momentarily, cleaned both spark plugs on one the tip was corroded cleaned that and pulled 1 spark plug at a time when running and each had an effect on engine speed so I think both cyls. are firing. Problem seems to arise when mower is at operating temp. and under load. It got so bad last time cutting the mower stopped problem seems to be getting worse with every use. I think I would like to get either a spark plug or a coil checker under load tester but do not know what brand is good.
What did it say when you tried? Picture is too large? Crop it or reduce file size then repost.Star Tech you are right the engine is not EFI I think I do see a carb buried in there. I tried to take a picture of it and post it and it will not let me says file is too big for server how do I post the picture on here?
What did it say when you tried? Picture is too large? Crop it or reduce file size then repost.
More pictures the better. Already a huge confusion on what the engine actually was. On page 2 now and haven't started fixing anything yet.
What did it say when you tried? Picture is too large? Crop it or reduce file size then repost.
More pictures the better. Already a huge confusion on what the engine actually was. On page 2 now and haven't started fixing anything yet.
I would not wash it with water electrical parts don't like water.Thank-you for all that information HLW I will try to see if it has any codes. Never knew there was a way to read codes or that it had an ECM if I knew that I would have never bought it. I like old stuff that never breaks. Never knew that just dirt build up on an engine could put you in limp mode which is what I think it's doing. Maybe it could be as simple as washing the motor would cure it ?
Yes sounds frustrating I don't think I'm going to mess with that at this point yet because I really don't think a carb could go back and forth so often like clogged not clogged. I think I will use it some more and next time the engine slows down to half throttle I will pull a spark plug wire one at a time and see if the engine stops or not. I will update next time I use it.Definitely carburetor there. It is kinda a pain to get off too as it is setup like the Exmark I did recently. The air filter has to be take a loose just to get the air cleaner to carburetor adapter off due breather hose adapter. Then the two carburetor studs has to be removed to get the carburetor off. Not hard to do; just time assuming aggravating setup.
Where are they located is it 1 one or 2 seems like only the left rear side is cutting out.Remove the kill wires on the coils and see what it does
Thx! I'll look into that! I'll let you know if it improves!Have you checked the levers travel. There are stop bolts that limit the travel of the levers so you can set the tracking. The bolts are on a bracket behind the pivot point of the levers. The heads of the bolts stop the levers and have a jam nut on the back side of the bracket. Back the bolts off so they don't touch, then turn them back in until they just stop the levers before they stop on there own. They don't need to bottom out in the pumps. Then set the tracking from there. If you are going say to the left slow down the right side by turning the bolt in to limit the travel. going to the right slow down the left side. Have you checked the engine rpm's. Those engines set at 3750 top no load speed.