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  1. MowerMike

    1st gen Kobalt 80v circuit board (not self propelled)

    The fuse is probably integrated into the removable safety key. If the key is missing, the mower will not run. If the key is present, remove it and check it with an ohmmeter for continuity (zero resistance). The relay coil is 24 Vdc, so it does not operate directly from the 80 volt battery. The...
  2. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Don’t bother answering a question on the GreenworksTools website that corrects an erroneous answer by the official Greenworks tech staff. They will refuse to post your answer, stating that it did not meet their website guidelines. No foul language, no insults, just a statement that they are...
  3. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Security Alert Back in March I bought a 60 volt blower from the Greenworks Tools website using my credit card. Approximately two weeks later my card number was used fraudulently on another website, requiring me to cancel the card and go through the tedious process of assigning a new card to...
  4. MowerMike

    Replacement blower?

    Right now Amazon has the blower/vac on sale for $70.97 >>>...
  5. MowerMike

    Replacement blower?

    This is about the only choice you have if you want a Greenworks 40 volt, variable speed, brushless and lightweight blower >>> https://www.greenworkstools.com/40v-cordless-brushless-blower-2400302 I don't think that you can buy one tool only. My own experience with the brushed version of this...
  6. MowerMike

    New EGO 56 Volt Li-Ion Battery garden tools at Home Depot

    Actually, Lowe's now sells the EGO lawn mowers as well, although you do have to purchase them online. For example >>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/EGO-21-IN-PUSH-MOWER-SELECT-CUT/1003130740 As to why they don't seem to sell that many, it's simply because they cost a lot more than other brands such...
  7. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    DEAL ALERT !!! https://www.lowes.com/pd/Greenworks-Pro-60-volt-Brushless-Lithium-Ion-Push-21-in-Cordless-Electric-Lawn-Mower/1000179065 This is 50% off MSRP, and one of the best deals I've ever seen on a full sized cordless mower with a steel deck. Update on 9/12/2020 - The sale is over...
  8. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    I did a search on eBay, and the only thing I could find was the Greenworks 82 volt commercial bare tool for $259. CPO doesn't even carry Greenworks 60 volt tools.
  9. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    So, today I visited the greenworkstools website and discovered that the 60 volt edger is no longer listed. It is also no longer to be found on the Lowe's website. Instead, it has been replaced with a more expensive 80 volt version that is the same price as the 80 volt Kobalt version being sold...
  10. MowerMike

    What is the shelf life for lithium-ion batteries ?

    So, today the seller of the defective battery agreed to issue a refund w/o having to return the battery. Since it was a free return, the seller would incur the return shipping cost and it makes sense not to waste money on something that they could not resell. Since I did not need to return it, I...
  11. MowerMike

    What is the shelf life for lithium-ion batteries ?

    It’s 10 cells in a 20 volt battery, so wouldn’t it be 2 volts. Perhaps you didn’t see my edited post. Anyway, I’m trying to get the eBay seller to accept a return.
  12. MowerMike

    What is the shelf life for lithium-ion batteries ?

    I think these batteries have about 20 cells, so I would need at least three of those laptop batteries, right ? All this assumes they are the correct physical size, voltage and capacity. How much does a good quality OEM laptop battery, not a cheap Chinese knockoff, cost ? If the total cost is...
  13. MowerMike

    What is the shelf life for lithium-ion batteries ?

    I’ve opened these particular batteries, and it’s not easy to replace the battery cells. They are encased in a framework with elaborate metal connectors that are destroyed when you separate them. Also, soldering directly to lithium-ion batteries can be very dangerous, as they can ignite and even...
  14. MowerMike

    What is the shelf life for lithium-ion batteries ?

    I've always wondered how long lithium-ion batteries could sit on the shelf before they self-discharged to such a low level that they became bricked. I've bought old stock batteries before, but never more than five years old based on their date codes at the time of purchase. Well, I now have one...
  15. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    So, today I looked at some images of this pressure washer, and it looks like the hose was actually supposed to include a velcro strap for storage. Just another example of crappy quality control.
  16. MowerMike

    New Greenworks warranty policy

    When I first bought Greenworks cordless electric tools with Li-Ion batteries, the warranty policy was 4 years on tools and 2 years on batteries. Recently, I bought some new Greenworks 60 volt tools and batteries, and discovered that the warranty policy had changed to 4 years on both the tools...
  17. MowerMike

    How can I test a 40v Li-Ion battery for a Greenworks 25292 cordless mower?

    I doubt it would be a fire hazard when charging, as long as the charger shuts off when it reaches the max voltage setpoint or if it overheats. I have experienced SLA batteries overheating and leaking acid when their chargers failed to shut off and overcharged them. I've never seen this happen...
  18. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Right now you can pick up a new Greenworks Gen II 60 volt 4 Ah battery for $143.99 with free shipping and no state sales tax >>> https://www.greenworkstools.com/shop-by-voltage/60v/60v-batteries-accessories Also, Lowe's has a sale on the new Greenworks Gen II 60 volt 21" self-propel lawn mower...
  19. MowerMike

    How can I test a 40v Li-Ion battery for a Greenworks 25292 cordless mower?

    You got a bad one, it happens. Quality control on Chinese li-ion cells can be spotty. It only takes a couple of weak cells to take down the entire battery. Unfortunately, you are outside the Greenworks 2 year warranty. The new generation Greenworks 60 volt batteries now carry a 4 year warranty...
  20. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Well, according to Greenworks, it is a 60 volt system, but the behavior suggests that they are wired in series as you suggest. And, no, it definitely won't run with only one battery installed in either compartment. Also, remember that this is a hybrid system, that also runs on 120 Vac, so it...
  21. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Today I used the 60 volt pressure washer for a second time, and determined that it definitely needs two batteries to operate. It also drains both batteries at the same rate, so if different capacity batteries are used, then the lower capacity battery is depleted first and the pressure washer...
  22. MowerMike

    Snapper xd 82v blade speed

    With all this COVID-19 and China trade war stuff going on right now, it may be a long wait before the unicorn blade is once again a reality. :(
  23. MowerMike

    Snapper xd 82v blade speed

    Funny thing is that there are also items that are listed as "In Stock" with the green "ADD TO CART" button highlighted, that also have the "No Longer Available" banner beneath them. For example: https://greenworks.ordertree.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=36305847
  24. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    So, last Friday I received the hybrid pressure washer, and eagerly assembled it. At first everything seemed fine, but then I noticed something strange. The pressure washer pump was resting on top of the detergent tank filler cap, and when I inspected it the entire motor/pump assembly was...
  25. MowerMike

    Snapper xd 82v blade speed

    I have a Greenworks 60 volt 21” deck mower with a heavy duty blade that does exactly what you are saying. As soon as the mower senses any load, it kicks into high speed mode and stays there even when the load is removed. The blade has chevron shaped detents, so if your blade is like that, then...
  26. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    According to the specs for the Honda GCV160 engine, it produces 6.9 lb-ft of torque at 2500 rpm, which doesn't seem all that wimpy to me. What is the torque rating of your B&S engine ? Is it push or self-propel ? In any event, I mow my lawn every two weeks, the grass never gets close to a foot...
  27. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Well, I guess we live in different worlds, because my experience is quite different. I used to own a Husqvarna push mower with a Honda GCV160 engine, and it struggled and stalled out in longer grass when I set the deck height to its lower positions. The cordless electric mowers that I’ve owned...
  28. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Either that, or he's trying to mow foot long grass with the mower set to its lowest cutting height. That will stall out any lawn mower, electric or gas.
  29. MowerMike

    Interesting new cordless electric lawn mowers from EGO and Greenworks

    You can order the 6 Ah right now directly from greenworkstools online for just $169.99 with free UPS shipping and no sales tax if you order it today with the MERRYJULY 15% discount. Their MSRP is $199.99, which is $30 less than Lowe's.
  30. MowerMike

    Interesting new cordless electric lawn mowers from EGO and Greenworks

    @riverguy - It looks like you got a great deal on that mower. Did you get the new 610 CFM model blower ?
  31. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Great idea ! Actually, the maximum flow is only 1.1 GPM, so a 5 gallon tank would last about 4-1/2 minutes.
  32. MowerMike

    Interesting new cordless electric lawn mowers from EGO and Greenworks

    Another consideration is whether @riverguy even needs a self-propel mower for its intended purpose. It's going to be used for trimming where the tractor can't go, which is probably a lot of forward and reverse motion where a self-propel is more of a hindrance than help. Unless the terrain is...
  33. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    So, Greenworks has just introduced another innovative 60 volt OPE. This time it's a hybrid AC/DC pressure washer that uses their 60 volt batteries for DC operation. There are two battery ports, but I don't know if the pressure washer uses them sequentially or concurrently. If it's the former...
  34. MowerMike

    Interesting new cordless electric lawn mowers from EGO and Greenworks

    @dougmacm - Just to be clear, @riverguy was considering the Greenworks 21” single blade dual battery port 60 volt lawn mower, and not the 25” dual blade model.
  35. MowerMike

    Interesting new cordless electric lawn mowers from EGO and Greenworks

    The controls seem fine to me, but I’ve never owned a self-propelled lawn mower, so I can’t really comment on them. If this is for your wife, perhaps you might consider a smaller lighter mower that is easier to handle.
  36. MowerMike

    Interesting new cordless electric lawn mowers from EGO and Greenworks

    Well, the Greenworks battery weighs about 4-1/2 lbs, whereas the overall weight of the mower including battery is over 70 lbs. So, the battery is a small percentage of the overall weight, and I doubt you would notice the difference with the battery position. The mower comes with only one...
  37. MowerMike

    Kobalt 80V 5Ah Battery problem ...

    So, you got a dud, no doubt a few weak cells. This is not typical of most Li-Ion batteries. I’m not sure about the quality of Kobalt batteries, but I’ve had excellent luck with my Greenworks batteries that are made by the same Chinese conglomerate. As to long term storage, I’d recommend...
  38. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Sometimes when things go wrong they end up going righter. So, I noticed that Lowe's had this battery for sale on July 8, and placed the order. At that time Greenworks did not show this battery as being available on their website. The total cost including state sales tax was $247.89, and it was...
  39. MowerMike

    Modding the eGo battery powered trimmer

    The problem with the EGO string trimmer is that you can't rotate the string head 90 degrees on the shaft, so that the trigger grip and auxiliary handle remain vertical. This makes operation as an edger very awkward. The WORX and all trimmer/edgers allow you to rotate the head 90 degrees on the...
  40. MowerMike

    Moving from FWD Gas to RWD Electric Dealing with Walking/Turning

    If you have a flat lawn, you really don't need self-propel, because the mower is very lightweight. You can buy a push version of the EGO mower.
  41. MowerMike

    New cordless blower from Snapper that is a cross between a handheld and a backpack style

    Snapper has introduced a new 82 volt Li-Ion cordless blower that is a cross between a handheld and backpack style. The battery is separate from the blower, but sits in a holder on a waist belt instead of a back harness. The blower controls are backpack style with a top mount joystick and a strap...
  42. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    You are confusing Watts with Watt-Hours. It’s a measure of capacity, not power. Think gallons of gasoline, not horsepower. I’m not sure what you mean by a nice sized city yard, but a single 6 Ah battery should be capable of mowing a 1/4 acre lawn. As to cost, there is no question that battery...
  43. MowerMike

    New Greenworks Pro 60 volt outdoor tools

    Two months ago I reported that a new 6 Ah (324 Wh) version of the Gen II 60 volt battery was on the horizon. Well, Lowe’s now lists this battery on their website with a $229 pricetag. It is currently shown as out of stock along with the 5 Ah version with a $199 pricetag. Recharge time for the 6...
  44. MowerMike

    Problem with Kobalt 210 electric cord Lawn mower

    If you look at the motor, the brushes are near the top and the grass is far away at the bottom sitting on top of the mower deck. It is a real stretch to think that any sparks created by the brushes rubbing against the rotor could ignite the grass. The housing is far more likely to catch fire...
  45. MowerMike

    Problem with Kobalt 210 electric cord Lawn mower

    Why would you run the mower inside the garage ?
  46. MowerMike

    Problem with Kobalt 210 electric cord Lawn mower

    I'm not quite sure what is wrong if anything. It works, correct ? It is normal to see sparks inside a brushed motor as the brushes rub against the rotor. As long as you keep the cover on it, there is no danger of fire or electric shock.
  47. MowerMike

    Greenworks 25302 cordless mower won't start

    Did you try the battery in both compartments ? Do you see a red key inserted in the small compartment ? There is no fuse in there, but there is an elaborate circuit board that can go bad. Also, that 4 terminal switch that the cable attaches to can cause problems. You can test it by detaching the...
  48. MowerMike

    Trying to fix a Worx WA0032 24v mower battery

    See my previous post #2. You can buy a set of new batteries for just $100, and they will be better than the original ones. I gave you a link to Amazon where you can buy them.
  49. MowerMike

    Greenworks 25302 cordless mower won't start

    That mower runs on just one battery. If it doesn’t start with the battery installed in one compartment, try it in the other compartment. If it still doesn’t start, then it’s dead. Also, first press and hold the start button, then pull back on the bail bar. Once the mower starts, you can release...
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