Have you been to a Lowe's or Home Depot lately? There are way more battery mowers on the floor than ICE models. The government IS pushing this.
Oh, I didn't know The Government tells Lowes and Home Depot what to do!
They still have ICE mowers? Haven't doubled the prices due to demand? Perhaps the demand isn't there?
Mandates is what's at the end of the path they're on. And what CA does often trickles to the rest of the country eventually. No, I'm not being forced to go battery powered yet, but the Democrats were clearly moving in that direction.
So one political party believes in making everyone do as they say? Then stop voting for them. Oh, we did stop voting for them.
I never said it was easy or cheap to repair. But it IS possible to get such a deal since: there are a lot of used ICE mowers out there, many have not been properly maintained, ICE engines, once repaired, retain their power levels and run times, and parts are still available. It was a commercial mower that had been ridden hard, and put away wet. It was a business asset that was sold and written off as a business expense.
How is it a deal if it is not "easy or cheap to repair?
I SERIOUSLY doubt that any battery powered mowers on the market would have stood up as long as this one did.
So you are relying on touchy feely feelings and conjecture? Isn't that how Democrats operate?
You have fallen into the fallacy of believing something that breaks that you can repair is better than something that doesn't break.
I know you haven't seen a commercial battery-electric lawn mower.
The parts of it that were broken make me think that it had been used like a bush hog. Every so often, I'll watch a review of a battery mower. They tend to be designed for light duty so they can be light. If you need more than a light duty mower, battery mowers are probably not for you. If you just need to mow 400 sq ft of lawn, then sure, a battery mower will work.
Once again you are making statements about that which you do not really know, and based on 3rd hand old data.
I agree motor-on-spindle is a bad idea but push mowers have used this for decades. When consumer EV riding mowers get serious the blades will be driven by belt to protect the blade motor.
I had hopes Bad Boy would make a serious battery ZTR but they wimped out using cheap Chinese Greenworks parts and batteries. I have seen a serious commercial Greenworks ZTR with 60" or 72" deck, 8-10 hour mow time at full speed, and J1772 charging port.
EGo says they have commercial products, and a commercial ZTR is forthcoming:
PGX™ Commercial Charging is the new standard. It charges up to 70 batteries overnight and flexibly scales with landscape businesses.
www.egocommercial.com
I hate to break it to you, but a 52" residential mower will not keep up with a 54" commercial mower.
It's either 25HP or it's 25HP, commercial or residential.
So I'll estimate that my yard would take 2hrs with that mower. 4hrs for both yards I mentioned. I checked that link. And then went to the EGo store to check battery prices. The 12Ah batteries are $500 ea. That $6000 mower has $3000 worth of batteries. So it's a $3000 mower with a $3000 fuel tank. So to do the 2 yards I mentioned, I'd need $3000 worth of batteries.
That is the retail price of the batteries. And you are playing fast and funny with your math casually discounting the speed the EGo can mow or the acreage.
As an engineer you should be aware of "corner conditions". You are picking corners to argue from. You don't know that EGo can not mow both lawns on one charge, you have chosen situation created to fail, and when an example is cited which beats your previous goalposts you move the goalposts.
Unless I wanted the batteries to last more than 3 yrs. If these batteries are run to empty every time, they will degrade much faster.
Again, saying things you do not know. Go read about LiFePO4 battery technology.
Even my Li-ion 7.5Ah EGo battery was still going strong at 8 years. Gave it to my sister, haven't asked about it lately.
My 2013 Tesla Model S had 93% at 10 years.
It's better to have more capacity than needed. So if you need to mow for an hour, get 2 hrs of capacity, and run the batteries down to no lower than 50% every time. The batteries will last more than twice as long. Now I'm back to needing $6000 worth of batteries for my situation.
And once again you demonstrate you don't even know how to cycle a Li-ion battery for maximum life.
And you don't know what the manufacturer's full charge limit is the same 100% as your Indisputable Google Fact 100% charge. Or that empty is the same 0%. Betcha never thought of that.
I'll agree that battery tools are quieter. Not sure about weight. I DO know that EV's weigh way more than their ICE counterparts. A Tesla Model 3 weighs more than an F150.
These things are so easy to look up these days rather than play on touchy-feeling thinking.
A Model 3 Long Range Dual Motor can be 4030 pounds. The lightest stripped aluminum F-150 is 4021 ranging up to 5697 pounds.
My F-150 (4627 pounds) barely weighs less than my (former) Model S (4647 pounds) but more than my Model Y (4363 pounds). And have already documented the heaviest Model 3 is 600 pounds lighter than my modest XLT F-150.
My commercial mower is not designed for light weight. It's made with heavy gauge steel, and is designed to be used hard. Makes me wonder how the previous owner managed to abuse it so badly. As for battery hand tools, you must have missed that I have those. I admitted that battery powered tools make sense in some cases, but not in every case as the battery evangelists would have you believe.
I clearly understand you have no idea what I believe.
My EGo 21" mower was not designed for light weight, it just so happened to be light weight. And 9 years old without cracked or rusted deck so maybe they did something right?
You missed the opportunity to cite "battery swap" for power tools. But then that would have negated your 15 minutes/day claim. I have often used a fully charged drill battery to empty, swapped, and continued. Having a house built. Battery tools were used extensively. I observed and wrote checks.
Have even done "battery swap" with my EGo mower. EGo has free extra battery promotions these days if one doesn't already know everything and bothers to look. I have a blower and string trimmer, each came with batteries which also work in the mower. And vice versa.
Just as one acquires batteries for hand tools, having a common battery design made accumulation of EGo batteries practical and useful. If you have a $6000 EGo mower then you are very likely to purchase an EGo string trimmer, hedge trimmer, blower, etc, all of which are available without battery, or with battery for very little extra. That is how I built my collection.
Not interested in battery swap for the Tesla when I can charge 160 miles into the battery in 15 minutes. Not even a decent amount of time for a biobreak. But then again with over 300 miles of range I almost never need to charge away from home. Those darn pesky corner conditions again! My Tesla won't tow 10,000 pounds either so it must be totally useless. It won't even mow two lawns. Or one lawn for that matter!
