love my Stihl equipment. . .

[Bomba]

Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by 4mix?

 

[Ric]

Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by 4mix?

The Stihl 4 mix units are 4 cycle or stroke engine that uses the 2 cycle lubrication. It's basically a 4 stroke engine without the Crankcase. The advantages to the 4 mix are Less emissions, there more fuel efficient than the 2 stroke and there definitely less noisy and weigh less than a conventional 4 stroke.

 

[Bomba]

The Stihl 4 mix units are 4 cycle or stroke engine that uses the 2 cycle lubrication. It's basically a 4 stroke engine without the Crankcase. The advantages to the 4 mix are Less emissions, there more fuel efficient than the 2 stroke and there definitely less noisy and weigh less than a conventional 4 stroke.

Ok thanks for the info. Yes I researched push mowers and I think you were right- the snapper seems to be the best one for the money. At least what I need it for. I have a large 3 acre lot. Use my ZTR for most of it. I need something that will mulch really well, I don't really need to bag. The Ninja sounds like the best right now. My lawn is pretty level also. I use my Stihl BR600 to tidy up any clippings.

 

[Ric]

Ok thanks for the info. Yes I researched push mowers and I think you were right- the snapper seems to be the best one for the money. At least what I need it for. I have a large 3 acre lot. Use my ZTR for most of it. I need something that will mulch really well, I don't really need to bag. The Ninja sounds like the best right now. My lawn is pretty level also. I use my Stihl BR600 to tidy up any clippings.

Are you buying a New Snapper ninja because for that money I'd look at the Honda HRX217VKA. There the best Mulching mower on the Market $599 New with a 5 year Warranty. JMO

Honda HRX2172VKA 21" Self Propelled Mower w/ SmartDrive WiseSales.com

 

[lawn mower fanatic]

Ok thanks for the info. Yes I researched push mowers and I think you were right- the snapper seems to be the best one for the money. At least what I need it for. I have a large 3 acre lot. Use my ZTR for most of it. I need something that will mulch really well, I don't really need to bag. The Ninja sounds like the best right now. My lawn is pretty level also. I use my Stihl BR600 to tidy up any clippings.

As Ric said, if you were planning on buying a new Snapper, a Honda HRX217VKA would be even better! I have the Honda HRX217HYA and absolutely love it! I think it would be better than a new Snapper. Don't get me wrong, older Snappers are good (I did recommend one), but for a new mower, you can't beat the VKA. The mulching is excellent. The first picture isn't with the VKA, but a similar mower. That is how good the HRX line is:


HRX217VKA: Honda Lawn Mowers: HRX217VKA, HRX217K4VKA

(video by johnconroy)

 

[Rivets]

Have to put my two cents in at this point seeing we changed from Stihl products to mowers. Toro mowers are just as good as Honda's and Snappers. I think they mulch better, personal pace is easier to use and repair costs if needed are cheaper. I'm 6'-4" and last year I bought and Echo trimmer Model SRM-266S which has a long shaft and works great for us height challenged guys.

 

[Bomba]

Have to put my two cents in at this point seeing we changed from Stihl products to mowers. Toro mowers are just as good as Honda's and Snappers. I think they mulch better, personal pace is easier to use and repair costs if needed are cheaper. I'm 6'-4" and last year I bought and Echo trimmer Model SRM-266S which has a long shaft and works great for us height challenged guys.

Hey Rivets, who would have thought our height would be a disadvantage? Lol!

 

[Bomba]

Are you buying a New Snapper ninja because for that money I'd look at the Honda HRX217VKA. There the best Mulching mower on the Market $599 New with a 5 year Warranty. JMO

Honda HRX2172VKA 21" Self Propelled Mower w/ SmartDrive WiseSales.com

Ok, everyone keeps mentioning this Honda HRX. keep coming back to it. Yes I'm buying new. Ric, you have been so helpful. I really appreciate u taking the time.

 

[Ric]

I would like to see a 4mix chainsaw...that crap will never sell.. haha

:smile: They said the 4 mix trimmers and edgers and blowers wouldn't sell either. They said the same thing about big outboard motors and now everything is 4 stroke. The 2 stroke engine is going to be obsolete.

 

[pugaltitude]

Toro everytime.

The 22" with a bbc is a great mower. Toro | 21.7" (55 cm) Steel Deck Recycler® (20958)

or you could go for the new 30" Toro | TimeMaster

I just find Toro more reliable than Hondas.
I replace a few transmissions in a year on various models and prefer the Briggs engine.