Front Porch appears to be dead

[twall]

Good for you BK to help your neighbor! Twall I'd sure like to see that Rolex.Even more I'd sure like to have one.I've always said before I croak I'd like to own one....russ

It's a fake, but a really NICE fake. Check out the groups. You'll see the watch one. Go from there.

 

[BKBrown]

The air is a good idea, but there is no way air will touch it. I cleaned some of the fittings by putting them in a vice, with wire brush on a drill and they open up, but the inside is pitted with crud and rust.
Plastic is the only way to go and finding adapters is going to be the problem.... (don't want to tear out everything in the house) most of what we can see above the level of the tank is not as bad. The push and pull pipes to the cystern are the heavy black plastic and are clear. :thumbsup:
I'm surprised at how much JR can still do ! He gets down in there and took some of it apart himself when I was not there. I believe we are going to need to cut the tank apart to get it out. That will mean ear plugs and a few metal cutting jig saw blades after drilling holes to get the blades started.
This is NOT going to be a fun job, but a plumber would cost a fortune !

Good idea there, but take it from me, the deposits that build up harden over time and there is no way any type of air pressure will dislodge the crud. You would basically have to use a sewer snake on a drill to loosen the stuff and unless you got it all out, then rinsed the pipe with a pressure washer, you would end up with the crud in all of your fixtures like faucets, etc. And as far as replacing existing galvanized pope with new, well, if you think copper pipe and fittings are expensive, you would FAINT when you saw what new galvanized costs. And because it's all imported now, I doubt if the quality is as good as the old stuff. One of the reasons old galvanized pipe is so strong and leak free is because of the extra thickness and sealing the deposits give....:laughing::laughing:

 

[JDgreen]

Been spending the last few days working on neighbor (JRs) plumbing (for those who don't know, JR is 85). He has a spring fed cystern and Jet Pump at the house. Everything was plugged and he still has Galvanized pipe and a Galvanized pressure tank - I think we will end up replacing everything. It is a small crawl space and it has been in the 90s with high humidity. :thumbdown:
I check in to see what is going on, but haven't spent much time on the computer recently.

HEY BK, CONGRATULATIONS on getting to be a true, certified MOWER ADDICT and reaching 1,000 posts. I also noticed you didn't make any fanfare about it like I would have. Figures, nice guys like you who take the time to help others don't toot their own horn the way guys like me do....:laughing: :thumbsup:

 

[BKBrown]

Thanks, but I didn't even notice that I had made that # of posts.
You just can't admit that you have a nice streak can you ???? :biggrin: :thumbsup: :laughing:

HEY BK, CONGRATULATIONS on getting to be a true, certified MOWER ADDICT and reaching 1,000 posts. I also noticed you didn't make any fanfare about it like I would have. Figures, nice guys like you who take the time to help others don't toot their own horn the way guys like me do....:laughing: :thumbsup:

 

[RobertBrown]

Good for you BK to help your neighbor!

X2
With a lot of reasons to get discouraged these days......I would like to thank you for helping your neighbor. This to me is a bright spot and I find it quite commendable. Makes we want to give you a hand, if I was closer I would.
Also remember not to overdo it in this heat, drink plenty of water, and wear a dust mask in that crawl space, some of that dust can be a real health hazard.
Is that tank a pressure tank or just a storage tank? Perhaps it would be easier to abandon most of the old system and replace with pvc and cpvc?
Just trying to help.

 

[BKBrown]

Thanks,
It's just the way I was raised, help when you can, someday you may need some help yourself.
I watch the heat and have a fan blowing in there.
It is a holding tank, not a pressure tank. We plan to replace everything we can get to with plastic or brass, replace the tank with a pressure tank, and get a new pump. Many of the pipes need to be re-routed so they are out of the way (that will be easy with plastic) JR did this all with galvanized and put them where they would fit with what he had on hand.
Just in case I didn't mention it..... Dad was "Robert Brown" too ! :thumbsup:

X2
With a lot of reasons to get discouraged these days......I would like to thank you for helping your neighbor. This to me is a bright spot and I find it quite commendable. Makes we want to give you a hand, if I was closer I would.
Also remember not to overdo it in this heat, drink plenty of water, and wear a dust mask in that crawl space, some of that dust can be a real health hazard.
Is that tank a pressure tank or just a storage tank? Perhaps it would be easier to abandon most of the old system and replace with pvc and cpvc?
Just trying to help.

 

[BKBrown]

Front Porch -- AGAIN

Not that anyone is interested, but ..... update on neighbor's plumbing.
JR had a Jet pump (push / pull) at the house pulling water from the cistern.
We tried everything and the foot valve system kept getting plugged with the rust from the system and would not prime and pull. We ended up using one of the two pipes down to the cistern for an electric feed to a well pump suspended in the cistern. Jet pump was 3/4 Hp and the well pump only needs to be 1/2 Hp.
New Pressure Tank (old one required being cut in half to get it out) -- New plastic pipe for everything below the floor --- new plastic drain lines --- New Pump ---- Finally --- water in the house with more flow than he ever had before ! :thumbsup:
Side note ---- NOW that it is finished .... the temp outside is in the 60s this morning and it had been in the 90s all the time we were doing all that work.

Maybe now I can get to use my new Ventrac more -- also broke the dry spell last night and got about 1 1/2" of rain ! :thumbsup: So .... now the grass will be needing more attention !

 

[twall]

That's how it seems to work - when you're working like a dog, the su's there to bake you. When it's all done, it cools off!

How long was your dry spell?

 

[BKBrown]

Re: Front Porch

It had been a couple months since we had enough rain to make the rain gauge move any. Strange that the grass kept growing (not quite as fast, but more than you would think). Just a couple days ago, we got under 0.2" and 25 miles north they got over 7" in a couple hours . I don't want that much all at once, but it would be nice to get it over a few days :smile:. I'll settle for the 1 1/4" and more expected later in the week (if we can believe the weather people ).

Hope all the drama over language police is nearly over !

 

[twall]

That would depend on a couple of members, BK.

I just won't stand for it, and I think I've made my case ubundantly clear, so I am done with it for the moment. Until these members come back to defend themselves. :wink:

We had a few weeks of dry, but it's broke now - broke about halfway through July. The weather sure is messed up all over the place. :frown: