While the NMIR safety feature is some what of a joke & I for one feel it is totally unnecessary piece of complication that does absolutely nothing to make any one safer.
It is a safety item mandated by law in some states, so it is not prudent to encourage people to defeat it.
I appreciate that you sound like a reasonable person with sufficient understanding of a mowers electronics to do what you have done but broadcasting it encourages others who may not be mechanically compitent as yourself to follow suit.
The danger there is the seat switch , which is the only safety device on a mower which does protect the operator and those near by, is also close to the NMIR switch so you risk causing people to accidentially defeating that.
Most mowers are fitting a much more complicated NMIR switch which can not be defeated because if it is disconnected the mower will not start.
So broadcasting such things just causes NMIR systems to get more complicated.
And then again, what kind of person mows backwards without looking behind them.... :confused2:
Why are NMIR switches on lawn tractors and not on homeowner grade ZTR mowers? It would shut the blades off every time you turned a ZTR unless the little light was on.
While the NMIR safety feature is some what of a joke & I for one feel it is totally unnecessary piece of complication that does absolutely nothing to make any one safer.
It is a safety item mandated by law in some states, so it is not prudent to encourage people to defeat it.
I appreciate that you sound like a reasonable person with sufficient understanding of a mowers electronics to do what you have done but broadcasting it encourages others who may not be mechanically compitent as yourself to follow suit.
The danger there is the seat switch , which is the only safety device on a mower which does protect the operator and those near by, is also close to the NMIR switch so you risk causing people to accidentially defeating that.
Most mowers are fitting a much more complicated NMIR switch which can not be defeated because if it is disconnected the mower will not start.
So broadcasting such things just causes NMIR systems to get more complicated.
Several mowers now come with control modules that can not be bypassed and expect to see fully computer controlled mowers very soon.
When the next tier of EPA regulations come in there will be no more carburettor controlled engines.
So the fuel injected engines will need an electronic engine management system. The modules will be part of the hour meter and they will of course check that safety switches are all there , & functioning before they will allow the mower to start.
A lot of the skid steers already have them fitted and the same control module will work happily on a lawn mower.
In fact the pin outs behind the hour meters on the skid steers are almost the same as those on come of the high end commercials.
The $ 5.00 on /off switches get replaced with $ 30 piezo electric switches that never read 0 so the control module knows if they have been bypassed.
At least some of us are old enough, and there are enough older used mowers out there, that we will never have to deal with what you mentioned.
I have owned mowers sinc about 1976, and never had one in the shop other than my own. Not going to start that.
I have a 2021 Cub cadet LS46. Followed your fix and it worked perfectly. Thank you.I mow a 2 1/2 acre lot in the country. and just bought a XT1, Lt42. I have to back up maybe 20 times per mowing...
I realized that once the safety switch was activated, you could go ahead an mow forward and reverse without any further switch use...BUT if you hit a bump, and we have many, or got off the mower, it would disconnect nd you had to set it again......
SOOOOO, I looked around and followed a set of wires from the back of the "interlock switch", a plunger switch at the back of the reverse rod located under the seat ...I realized there was a easy disconnect plug up under ant at the back of the battery area...secured very near the back of the mower. I pulled the battery out and reached down....squeezed the center of the clear plastic plug, pulled a little on both ends, and it disconnected....tucked the two halved around the other wiring in the area and used a little black tape to double secure everything...The plastic cooling blades are just a few inches away and you would NOT want to have the plug halves get pulled into those blades....Anyway, I put the battery back in and started it up..NOW, when you start the mower, you can push the forward pedal and go forward, then push the reverse pedal and go backward without moving the key, or pushing any button, or waiting for a little light to go on...
NOTE: I have no little kids anywhere near me when mowing...If I did, I probably would not do this modification...
These people.And then again, what kind of person mows backwards without looking behind them.... :confused2:
Thats good to knowI have several customers with ZTR's that will shut off the deck if both control levers are moved into the reverse direction, and then reactivate the deck if one or both are moved to go forward. So you can mow while turning around but cannot mow if moving straight backwards.
Old post but I fully agree!! I'll double down on the seat switch being a Posi. Ive re-installed several on used Garden tractors I bought over the yrs before operating them. Always the first to get modified but pull a big mower off a close freind/relative just one time, it sort of makes one see the light on some safety concerns, just trust me.While the NMIR safety feature is some what of a joke & I for one feel it is totally unnecessary piece of complication that does absolutely nothing to make any one safer.
It is a safety item mandated by law in some states, so it is not prudent to encourage people to defeat it.
I appreciate that you sound like a reasonable person with sufficient understanding of a mowers electronics to do what you have done but broadcasting it encourages others who may not be mechanically compitent as yourself to follow suit.
The danger there is the seat switch , which is the only safety device on a mower which does protect the operator and those near by, is also close to the NMIR switch so you risk causing people to accidentially defeating that.
Most mowers are fitting a much more complicated NMIR switch which can not be defeated because if it is disconnected the mower will not start.
So broadcasting such things just causes NMIR systems to get more complicated.
One or two children (maybe more) get mowed over each year and injured or killed. That is why the manufacturer puts reverse safety switches. Every time the blades disengage, think of the wear and tear on the clutch and engine. There are ways of dealing with safety switches, which I will not go into on here.Old post but I fully agree!! I'll double down on the seat switch being a Posi. Ive re-installed several on used Garden tractors I bought over the yrs before operating them. Always the first to get modified but pull a big mower off a close freind/relative just one time, it sort of makes one see the light on some safety concerns, just trust me.
May be better with a mandatory prison term for those too ignorant to safely operate dangerous equipment near other people/animals than push this costly safety bull chit that only distracts/frustrates all operators.
The ignition/safety control part alone is over $100 on MTD Cubs & lasts 2-3yrs now days. Thats frustrating to me & I don't even own one..lol