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Which spark plug? OLder Toro recycler mower

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crazy charlie

Will get a pic and try to get a model # .I just bought an older rwd mower .Cast aluminum deck.Older style handle with 2 levers.Left is old style
choke lever and right side lever looks like 3 speed drive lever and a pull crossbar between the levers.Rear bagger with a difficult looking bag setup.
hope the description helps identify it.Starts on 1st or 2nd pull and seems to run and cut well.Spark plug is on left side of motor when operating.
Has a champ plug but I thought I was reading a plug number but it turned out to be a word like "energy" or similar,sorry I dont recall exact but I
want to replace it as it looked a bit on the white side .Also has a unique looking mulch blade which has 2 smaller blades coming off of the main blade.
Gonna need sharpening for sure.Also want to change oil which looks to be a pipe thread accessed from the bottom of the motor by the blade.Only
spent $50 but hope I bought a good one.?? Any comments are appreciated.Thanks Charlie


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Rivets

Which engine do you have on it, Briggs, Tecumseh or Honda?


#3

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crazy charlie

I dont know.I assumed the plug placement might be a clue to one of the Toro pros.
I will check it out tomorrow.Thanks!! Charlie


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Rivets

When you post back be sure to include the units model and serial numbers.


#5

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crazy charlie

Will do!!


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sgkent

lots of the motors you have a fill tube for the oil, Tip that over into a catch pan. Hold the mower so the fill tube is the lowest corner. The old plug will have a number on it. That is really all you need to go get another one although you can look it up in the manual. Which you will need the model number for. Toro has all their manuals online if you know the mower number.


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crazy charlie

sgkent said:
lots of the motors you have a fill tube for the oil, Tip that over into a catch pan. Hold the mower so the fill tube is the lowest corner. The old plug will have a number on it. That is really all you need to go get another one although you can look it up in the manual. Which you will need the model number for. Toro has all their manuals online if you know the mower number.
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Yep,thanks.I ask about the plug because I have purchased items over the years which have had the incorrect plug installed,
fortunately as I originally stated ,there is a pipe thread for oil drain on the bottom of the motor between the deck and the blade


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sgkent

sgkent

crazy charlie said:
Yep,thanks.I ask about the plug because I have purchased items over the years which have had the incorrect plug installed,
fortunately as I originally stated ,there is a pipe thread for oil drain on the bottom of the motor between the deck and the blade
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yep mine has it too but in 20 seconds I can tilt it over when hot and drain out all the oil. Tried the plug once and what a mess.


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crazy charlie

sgkent said:
yep mine has it too but in 20 seconds I can tilt it over when hot and drain out all the oil. Tried the plug once and what a mess.
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So you find the tilt method to be more effective?? Wow glad I brought that up.I assumed drain plain was easiest and most effective.
I have a hangup with making sure every drop of dirty oil is out of my engines.I usually pour a quart of clean oil through my engines
after all oil is drained .Probably useless however it make me feel better and if I feel better for $4,thats a deal!! Charlie


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crazy charlie

So the mower is a Super Pro Recycler II ,the plug currently is Champ 861ECO that I am looking to replace.Wow,pricey plug!! Guess I will look at a cross reference.The blades are a pretty cool looking design,gonna sharpen them.
Couldnt find any model or serial # tags.I will attach a few pics of the mower.The motor has "GTS 2 550" on pull cord cover.
I changed the oil through the oil change plug which was simple to do.Maybe no pic,it says upload is too large


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Rivets

Look under the sheet metal cover, on the handle, for the numbers. Super Pro Recycler II was most often equipped with a Briggs engine, but I have seen a couple with Susuki. That Briggs engine used a Champion plug RJ19LM.


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StarTech

StarTech

Champion Spark Plug 861ECO; ECO Clean 14mm 0.374" Small Engine Resistor QJ19HX​

Can use 861 as sub as the RJ19LM supersedes to.
The QJ19HX supersedes the 861ECO.

I am showing a list price of 6.26 usd but my distributor has none in stock.


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crazy charlie

Thanks guys!! Turns out that I have an Autolite plug that I bought for my Snowblower tecumsa engine that is interchangeable .
I will use that one since I wont be using the blower any time soon.Any clue how to post a pic?? I downloaded the mower pic and tried to attach the file but it stated "file too large" Charlie


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MParr

crazy charlie said:
So the mower is a Super Pro Recycler II ,the plug currently is Champ 861ECO that I am looking to replace.Wow,pricey plug!! Guess I will look at a cross reference.The blades are a pretty cool looking design,gonna sharpen them.
Couldnt find any model or serial # tags.I will attach a few pics of the mower.The motor has "GTS 2 550" on pull cord cover.
I changed the oil through the oil change plug which was simple to do.Maybe no pic,it says upload is too large
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sgkent

sgkent

yep - a lot easier that way. You can google the model number on your toro and they have a page online with specs showing the correct Champion plugs for it.


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crazy charlie

Ok ,I found the model and serial # under the handle cover as Rivets suggested.Mod 20436
ser 3907024.Still cant find what engine is on it though .Its a 5hp something..?? Charlie


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Rivets

The original engine on that unit, built in 1993 was. Briggs model 124702-3115-01. Here’s a parts manual for that unit. https://www.toro.com/getpub/4155


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sgkent

sgkent



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crazy charlie

Thanks guys!! I think I bought a great mower.As far as the mulching blades....I sharpened the main blade .The much smaller "lifting" blade that is under it does not look like it was ever sharpened or maybe it does not get sharpened??? Not sure.Charlie


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crazy charlie

here are the blades

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#21

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Rivets

The blade stiffener does not get sharpened.


#22

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crazy charlie

Rivets said:
The blade stiffener does not get sharpened.
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Thanks again,it didnt look like it was ever sharpened so you make perfect sense.I read that it is meant to keep the clippings from dropping onto the lawn after being cut.It is supposed to make sure the clippings get mulched more than once so the clippings are super tiny when done.
I wonder if it would perform even better if there were an edge put on it?? Hmmmm ,interesting?? Charlie


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Rivets

It’s a stiffener, don’t want to weaken it.


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