Check EBay for used Walbro carburetor. If you cannot find OEM carburetor and need one, buy an aftermarket carburetor. I have had really good results with them. Price will be roughly 25% for aftermarket versus new OEM.You need to be looking in the mower engine bone yards for a rebuild-able one.
It appears that the great financial investors that current pulls Briggs strings have decided that the carburetor is no longer available from them since it a low volume item.
This is the way the industry is currently tending with OEM no longer supplying parts for many of the older engines. Even some of the new engines now are having parts availability issues. Just recently I had a less than two year Briggs engine that I could not even get an ignition coil for. Then there companies like Lincon that simply don't provide any parts for their engines.
These are pretty much my thoughts too. I've ordered several carbs off of Amazon and I've gotten good service from all of them. The only thing that upsets me is when a part is listed as OEM and you receive it in a plastic bag. I recently ordered a gas filter for my generator from Amazon, ad said OEM Briggs & Stratton, when I got it...in a plastic bag. I was still going to use it, but I stopped at Ace Hardware to pick up a couple of the little tension spring clamps and hanging right next to the clamps was a real Briggs filter like the one I ordered and it was $3.00 cheaper. That done it, I returned the fake to Amazon. I'll order again though, I love Amazon.I really don’t get all the fuss about running down OEM parts? In my experience, Nikki carbs are typically throw aways when they fail (definitely after they have sat unused with gas in them for a long time) and even a Walbro will eventually wear out. For all the time spent here, just plugging in the model number from the engine into the “interweb” will yield some exploded views of the engine and part/make-model numbers of which can be easil and quickly cross referenced. Yes, people hate the Chinesium carbs, but I just buy them Amazon Prime. I have found that if they are bad, they are almost always bad right out of the box. If I get a bad one, I just send it back and order another one, I think I have probably bought 10 of them this way over the years and I only had to send back two; in both of those cases, the second carbs were good to go. I have found that, as long as I drain the fuel before storing them for the winter, I get perfectly good service from them for at least long enough that I feel like I have “gotten my money’s worth out of them”, which for me is 3-5 years or longer. If they fail after that, I shrug my shoulders and order another one off AP. I guess I am just the type of personality that can’t stand calling around talking to people, getting no or bad information from them, or hitting dead ends when they don’t know how or don’t want to be bothered to help. I just want to find the cheapest part as quickly as possible and move on with the project! I also know from other past projects that even going to “legitimate“ parts sources can still yield you Chinese aftermarket parts anyway when OEMs discontinue parts for older machines and parts suppliers fall back on secondary sources. I once ordered a shift knob from a Jeep dealer. When it arrived, it was a HELP! branded part, like you get at the chain auto parts stores.
What do you mean when you say the aftermarket carbs typically have about a 75% failure rate?Yep, wrestling with a Nikki. I've seen them Amazon carbs have about a 75% failure rate.
One nice thing is they can usually be returned free and a refund given.
I've took two or 3 and make one. If they have the adjustable idle jet I take a dremel and cur the plastic limiter off and slot the end so it can be adjusted past the limits. Try to pinch break the plastic limiter will usually break the jet off in the carb,
I keep a couple pf the good Walbros around so as I can use it as a test to make sure that the Nikki carb is actually the problem. Sometimes when installing a Nikki you might have to do a static governor re-adjustment.
The restrictor gasket I mentioned is the one in the video that the guy installed. The restrictor gasket is supplied with some of the Nikki's and it blocks part of the intake air supply slightly reducing the engine HP and enrichens the intake slightly.
I've also had to drill/ream the H emulsion tube jet.
A good Walbro lets you know that the Nikki carb is ACTUALLY what needs modded. (some of the Walbros have both a low and H jet as adjustable)
Put out a saved search on fleece bay and you might eventually find a Walbro.
You will get a email notice if one surfaces when using the saved search.
Well, for a good number of years many Briggs engines came with either a Nikki or a Walbro.I don't why it seems everyone is down on the Nikki carbs. To me they are one of the easiest carbs to clean and repair.
But yes many off the wall vendors will sub after market parts for OEM parts and try to get away with in. I caught one a couple years ago sell supposedly OEM Cub Cadet spindles and when they arrived they were the same Rotary spindles that were defective. I just mark them as a bad vendor and have never ordered from after I got my money back. What worst they charged the same as the OEM I later brought from the Cub Cadet Distributor.
Now there are both good and bad vendors on Amazon so it does pays to do your research. Just you have to do for eBay vendors. Just recently I had a need for a particular part and eBay claimed he had them in stock in Florida when in fact he didn't but dropped shipped them out of NC. He got a bad review for missing the delivery time and he was pissed that I messed up his perfect record. So what he dropped to 99.6% vs 100%, I told the truth and would not lie just to please him. He threaten me with eBay so when they contacted me I told the same story and he almost got suspended.
True about those bolts, but there is no reason for those things to be that tight.Personally I don't either one very to repair as long as you can get the parts. Matter of fact I install bushings in the twin barrel Nikki when ever need although the last one took a schedule 80 brass pipe to repair. Even the Walbro have to have custom bushings install sometimes. One the biggest problems I have is where the main nozzle on the Walbro had been screw up by someone that don't how to remove them. Nikki bowl screws are also F'd up by those that don't to use the right tools.
Now some Walbro you have to have the 1/8" vs the 1/16" bowl gaskets in stock.
I got that failure rate upside down. I get the Nikki's from Amazon prime and have about a 20% failure rate. (2 out of 10 that I can return for a full refund.What do you mean when you say the aftermarket carbs typically have about a 75% failure rate?
Hi,It is hard not to wet myself from laughter when reading all of these " I can not find the right carb threads "
There is nothing magical or mystical about any mower carburettor.
The only important thing is the mounting stud spacings
After that just about everything can be worked around
Now it will be easier if the replacement has similar orientation of the butterflys ( horizontal or vertical ) and the engine will work a bit better if the venturii is the same diameter and it is best not to mix carbs from gravity feed with pump feed as the float needles may need adjusting .
but when push comes to shove it is just 2 tubes at right angles to each other fuel goes through one & air through the other .You could put a 4 barrel Holly on there if you really wanted to .
Hi,All info on this engine is, Model 288707 Type 0170-01 Code 970307ZB If this is the engine you are asking about in your last post, Star said according to the IPL the original carb was Briggs part number 799728, which he replied to you in post #7.
It doesn't matter. Plenty of the IPLs for Briggs 28xxxx and 31xxxx engines show high in the IPL because they could come with either.Hi,
Well...Belief is not the question...
From what I can find out they quit making that Walbro LMT and then just used the same number to tag the Nikki with.
That looks good on paper and the parts computer down at the shop, but...
Does not give the info to find an exact Walbro carb!
Thanks!
Hi,So much effort, time, energy and words wasted on this entire thread for some apparent hang up over wanting an oem walbro which is completely unnecessary.
I prefer that carb over a Nikki but again it makes no difference..
This problem could have all been solved and the more could have been running well from any old carburetor, almost, that any lumber repair shop would have probably given you out of there Parts piles or their junk mowers or just go on eBay or Amazon and grab one that fits many, many, many of those 28 and 31 series engines that looks about like your old one.
Problem would have been solved and for only a few dollars.
Yes, I am usually quite talkative and can write many novels or more accurately short stories on about anything but sometimes when the thing is just a circular conversation it's not really solving any problem whatsoever or someone is looking for an answer to a non problem or they have specific guidelines only they personally are worried about when there are plenty of other ways to get the job done I get a little frustrated.Hi,
Well, everybody got to express their views, and have some fun...
I admittedly learned more about Small Engine Carbs...
That's what Forums are for, ALL good to me!
Thanks!
Naw the tthread was not that long I got to th end of it before having to take a dumpBertsmobile1:
You might want to go pee before you start reading this info.
Just some general info about the NLA Walbro LMT carb replacements.
Here is a direct link to show the WALBRO carb that was used on that engine which shows a list of the carb part numbers and the models of the Briggs engines and your engine model is included in the list.
What is little bit confusing when trying to find a LMT carb now days is you cannot use the Briggs part number that was listed for the Walbro because it will take you to a Nikki replacement carb because the Walbro is NLA as a new replacement as you have also determined.
To find a Walbro LMT you will most likely have to watch fleece bay or visit some small engine repair shops and salvages to look for the LMT stamped Walbro and even then finding ONE that can be re-built is a roll of the dice due to someone already ruined the emulsion tube or the emulsion tube is corroded and cannot be removed. (as startech indicated)
The reason I have some Walbro LMT's plus several others is I would acquire them from small engine shops that replaces carbs instead of re-building them as non-working carbs, most were just given to me for parts others I would buy in bulk dirt cheap as non-working parts carbs, buckets full and I could take parts and pieces and make useable ones as a winter project. I usually only re-built the more desirable NLA types or the expensive type OEM replacement carbs. (Some OEM small engine new replacement carbs would be in the $300 area and that is why now days most people try to use clones instead of installing a $300 carb on a worn out end of life machine that might be headed for the salvage yard in few days trying to not throw good money at bad.
Look for the LMT stamp and MOST GENERALLY the main nozzle size will be ok for use on a single cylinder Briggs engines if the engine DOES NOT require MAX hp when being used. If you do not see the LMT, its not a Walbro. (even if they say it is)
Here is a picture of a Walbro LMT stamped carb on fleece bay.
Craftsman 15.5hp 42 Inch Lawn Tractor Briggs and Stratton Walbro LMT Carburetor | eBay
The tractor pictured is the one this part was removed from. It may fit other models as well. It was removed from a good running engine.www.ebay.com