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Looking to upgrade to a zero turn. Currently I have a cub commercial walk behind 48 hydro with new kawi motor. Pumps are starting to make weeks sounds. One pump has been rebuilt recently. Looking to get allow end commercial zero turn. Looking at ex mark pioneer e series, Scag freedom z, and the hosted fastrak super duty. Looking for a 48 inch cut with a kiwi motor. Not sure which one is better or will cut better. any thoughts or comments would be appreciated

I'm not up on Exmark, but I've been looking in to the other two. Scags are great machines, they have the name appeal for sure. Both have ZT3100 drives. Both built like a tank. Beyond that, I go Hustler. Why: better and bigger hp Kawi FX engine, foldable ROPS, bigger caster wheels, stronger warranty, super simple maintenance layout..

I think I'm leaning more towards a hustler or an ex mark. Have both dealers with in 10 minutes of me. I think both have about same warrentys. But hustler has life time deck and frame. Ex mark doesn't. I love the cut of the ex mark. And it strips pretty good too. Hustler cuts good too but doesn't strip as well imo. Not sure on price of either one. Doing to look at the ex mark tomorrow probably.

I think toro would be another to look at some might say that them an exmark are name no way no how toro mower IMO have a better deck an warranty then exmark an just have some features that exmark can complete with just my option but there all good brands :thumbsup:

clpolcar said:

I think I'm leaning more towards a hustler or an ex mark. Have both dealers with in 10 minutes of me. I think both have about same warrentys. But hustler has life time deck and frame. Ex mark doesn't. I love the cut of the ex mark. And it strips pretty good too. Hustler cuts good too but doesn't strip as well imo. Not sure on price of either one. Doing to look at the ex mark tomorrow probably.

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Get the hustler more for your money and a better machine ... Plus its cooler looking

If there was a toro dealer by me I would look at them.unfortunately there isn't. I'm leaning towards the hustler but I haven't really herd a lot about them. Everyone around me uses exmark , Scag, or walker. At work we have a super z and the deck is great on it and will do a great job. Gonna look at the ex mark tomrrow

clpolcar said:

If there was a toro dealer by me I would look at them.unfortunately there isn't. I'm leaning towards the hustler but I haven't really herd a lot about them. Everyone around me uses exmark , Scag, or walker. At work we have a super z and the deck is great on it and will do a great job. Gonna look at the ex mark tomorrow

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Actually out of the mowers you mentioned here, the Exmark , Scag, or Walker the Walker would be the best and most expensive. If you like the Toro mowers then the Exmark is what I'd go with seeing how Toro owns and makes Exmark. The big difference between the two would be the Toro uses the Turbo Force deck and Exmark uses their own deck, I believe it's their Titan deck other than that there basically the same mower Exmark being more expensive. The mowers you've chosen are all good mowers and you wouldn't go wrong with Hustler.

I think at this point Scag is out. Its between the ex mark and hustler. Has anyone used the exmark pioneer or hustler fastrak??

clpolcar said:

I think at this point Scag is out. Its between the ex mark and hustler. Has anyone used the exmark pioneer or hustler fastrak??

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If you're looking at these 2 models. I'd also consider looking at the Gravely Pro Turn series.

I have never really been a big fan of gravely. Seen them cut and it looks terrible.

Why do people need to sell him something he doesn't want? He listed 3 brands he chose those for a reason don't add on saying more brands....

exotion said:

Why do people need to sell him something he doesn't want? He listed 3 brands he chose those for a reason don't add on saying more brands....

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Why do people need to put down others for helping someone possibly find a better mower.

All we can give is opinions unless you have used every mower for more than 50 hours. Everyone is going to say what they use.

exotion said:

Why do people need to sell him something he doesn't want? He listed 3 brands he chose those for a reason don't add on saying more brands....

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There's a lot of good mowers out there that would do a good job. Most people will try to buy from there local shops for service purposes or to support the local businesses, but there's nothing wrong with throwing out some alternatives.

clpolcar said:

I think I'm leaning more towards a hustler or an ex mark. Have both dealers with in 10 minutes of me. I think both have about same warrentys. But hustler has life time deck and frame. Ex mark doesn't. I love the cut of the ex mark. And it strips pretty good too. Hustler cuts good too but doesn't strip as well imo. Not sure on price of either one. Doing to look at the ex mark tomorrow probably.

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I have a Hustler Mini Z 19/52 that I bought new in 2007. It has about 560hrs. and I will be putting it on CL in the spring. It has never mowed commercially - only mine and my neighbors large yards. I have taken good care of it and it is a great mower. I just went with something a little larger to cut down my mowing time even more.

Has anyone used the toro titan MX with 48 inch deck? I can get one for 5750 out the door? Is this a good deal? R I can get the exmark pioneer e series in April for about the same price but it has a 52 inch deck? I know the toro has better parts a little better deck. Bigger tires. And I believe a better Kawasaki engine. Any comments would be help full. Found out I have a reliable dealer really close to me.

clpolcar said:

Has anyone used the toro titan MX with 48 inch deck? I can get one for 5750 out the door? Is this a good deal? R I can get the exmark pioneer e series in April for about the same price but it has a 52 inch deck? I know the toro has better parts a little better deck. Bigger tires. And I believe a better Kawasaki engine. Any comments would be help full. Found out I have a reliable dealer really close to me.

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Go for it our dealer got them for 5500 but the maybe regional difference

Hustling said:

I have a Hustler Mini Z 19/52 that I bought new in 2007. It has about 560hrs. and I will be putting it on CL in the spring. It has never mowed commercially - only mine and my neighbors large yards. I have taken good care of it and it is a great mower. I just went with something a little larger to cut down my mowing time even more.

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How much you want for the mini z. I'm in Cleveland Ohio. Where are you located.

clpolcar said:

Has anyone used the toro titan MX with 48 inch deck? I can get one for 5750 out the door? Is this a good deal? R I can get the exmark pioneer e series in April for about the same price but it has a 52 inch deck? I know the toro has better parts a little better deck. Bigger tires. And I believe a better Kawasaki engine. Any comments would be help full. Found out I have a reliable dealer really close to me.

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The Toro Titan MX with a 48" deck is not offered this coming season (2014). Only 52" and 60".

ghessler26 said:

The Toro Titan MX with a 48" deck is not offered this coming season (2014). Only 52" and 60".

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i talk to my dealer he said they still were :thumbsup:

Kodie's Lawn Service said:

i talk to my dealer he said they still were :thumbsup:

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They are making the ZX4800 but I'm 100% positive there is no 48" in the MX series for 2014.

clpolcar said:

How much you want for the mini z. I'm in Cleveland Ohio. Where are you located.

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I will probably ask $3k. I would take a little less. Paid nearly $7k for it. I'm in Mt. Gilead (2hrs from Cleveland).

I'll keep you in mind about the mini z. We have a super z at work and its nice. I hope they are making the MX 48. Went to dealer and they have pricing for them and they have it online at toro.

ghessler26 said:

The Toro Titan MX with a 48" deck is not offered this coming season (2014). Only 52" and 60".

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This is true. They are not offering this in 2014. Went to local dealer. Only offering 54 and 60 in the MX line. Still have it in the zx line tho. Thinking of getting 54. Can get it at the same price as a 2013 48. Bigger deck same price.

Very strange maybe my dealer told me wrong Model :confused2: