I bought it used so no manual and I have crawled arounf the thing and came up empty. Thank you though.Most have an ID tag on the blower or the manual.
I bought it used so no manual and I have crawled arounf the thing and came up empty. Thank you though.
The ad said kevlar but I really don't think there was kevlar in it as the belt was very stretchy. I did not account for pulley wear, that would mean I could be down to 5/8 x 113" belt.Question are you using Poly belts or Kevlar belts. Poly belt are known for stretching more than 5% as where Kevlars usually has about a 1% stretch factor. And you may have to good 1/2-1 shorter due to pulley wear.
A good Kevlar belt (often blue in color) will last for several years. Belt deflection should be minimal at about 1/2” to 1” at longest point between pulleys. Even a cheap belt will last longer than what you a describing, so chances are high that until the real issue(s) is fixed, you will continue to put new belts on it.Please don’t replace any belts until you go through everything I asked you to check in post #2. If you don’t, you may regret it.
Pix are blue , Gates L & G are green, Gates fractional Hp are brown ( both kevlar ) , Sunbelts were white or creamish .A good Kevlar belt (often blue in color) will last for several years. Belt deflection should be minimal at about 1/2” to 1” at longest point between pulleys. Even a cheap belt will last longer than what you a describing, so chances are high that until the real issue(s) is fixed, you will continue to put new belts on it.
www.vbeltsupply.com carries all types and various ranges of standard and heavy duty, along with a fantastic cross reference info. Good prices and quick delivery. Have bought numerous belts over the last 15 yrs for Craftsmen, Cub, and Toro.Hi all, I am looking for a recommendation for a belt that will last for my DYT 4000 with the snowblower attachment. Not sure of the belt number. Appears to be a 5/8 x 114. I have tried a few non oem and had dismal results with stretching to the point they fall off or shred. If you happen to know the model # for the belt that would be great. Any help would be appreciated.
And not a one of them are as good as an MTD belt. Don't like the company but they have great belts. John Deere even better.Pix are blue , Gates L & G are green, Gates fractional Hp are brown ( both kevlar ) , Sunbelts were white or creamish .
Kevlar is just a word to these manufacturers -at least some.One would think kevlar would be the longest lasting.
How many years do belts typically last?
That should how many hours due usage levels.One would think kevlar would be the longest lasting.
How many years do belts typically last?
All depends. The fan belt on my 1975 IH 184 is still the original and so is the drive belt on my 1972 Sears ST12. Neither are kevlar covered. I have had JD mowers in the shop 20 years old with original belts and have had 2 year old mowers in the shop with bad belts.One would think kevlar would be the longest lasting.
How many years do belts typically last?
John Deere doesn't make their own belts but whoever makes it for them makes the best belt I've ever seen in the industry.All depends. The fan belt on my 1975 IH 184 is still the original and so is the drive belt on my 1972 Sears ST12. Neither are kevlar covered. I have had JD mowers in the shop 20 years old with original belts and have had 2 year old mowers in the shop with bad belts.
Not if you buy oem.Sounds like buying new belts... is a crap shoot.
That's too bad.
I figured someone on the forum has had good service from a particular brand and would be confident in recommending that brand based on their past experiences.
Gates lawn & garden would be around the best belt money can buySounds like buying new belts... is a crap shoot.
That's too bad.
I figured someone on the forum has had good service from a particular brand and would be confident in recommending that brand based on their past experiences.
I've even had problems the couple of the Green Gates belts so even though Gates make some of the best automotive belts in the industry, I would never choose their belts for a lawn mower clutching application over an oem belt.Gates lawn & garden would be around the best belt money can buy
They are expensive
Mower owners are cheap
No one stocks them so they have to be ordered in .
And then there is storeage
Most workshops store them on hooks around to top of the walls where they are subject to both excessive heat & sunlight .
Like high quality tyres, belts should be stored laid flat in a cool place & out of the sunlight
But don't they like trying to buy the cheapest thing they can.
Yes when in the business of repairs there is a steep learning curve on belts. Like the back idler bend. Hustler mower drives especially requires a cog belt due that two inch backside idler.
And yes most auto parts stores don't even have a belt measuring tool in house either. Advance Auto Parts thought I was nuts for buying one. But it has gotten me out more trouble with belts than the vendors have. Also pisses off those that sends the wrong size belts. I had Stens to tell me the tool was useless. Then I ask them a simple question that they could not answer. That was "Why do you then sell the tool in the first place?" Now of mine has three extensions on it now and hoping not have to add another extension.
At least I got lucky enough to have two Husqvarna and MTD distributors. What surprises me it that most of Husqvarna belt from the distributors are cheaper than the generics. MTD not so much as they fairly unique belts.
I have seen too many Pix that that just work good quality as far as longevity. The OEM belts would last for well over a decade and sometimes two and the Pix about would work well enough but wouldn't even last 2 to 3 years.One of the problems with belts is the size indicated is not always the size you receive. Some get mislabel and others are just label wrong intentionally.
Example: A&I (Sunbelts) which I was a dealer for 10 years toward the end of my selling and using got to where most of the 1/2" belt where nearly one inch short and the 5/8" were nearly two inches short. And I have received a couple belt from Stens that were one inch longer than spec'd. I have even had problems with JD OEM belts being out of spec. And yes I have received Gates belt too out of spec.
This why I now measure all new belts in house with my 200 inch v-belt measuring tool. So far the PIX line is what they say they are.
I've been using that belt measuring device since at least 1988 but I got a part-time job in an Autoworks.But don't they like trying to buy the cheapest thing they can.
Yes when in the business of repairs there is a steep learning curve on belts. Like the back idler bend. Hustler mower drives especially requires a cog belt due that two inch backside idler.
And yes most auto parts stores don't even have a belt measuring tool in house either. Advance Auto Parts thought I was nuts for buying one. But it has gotten me out more trouble with belts than the vendors have. Also pisses off those that sends the wrong size belts. I had Stens to tell me the tool was useless. Then I ask them a simple question that they could not answer. That was "Why do you then sell the tool in the first place?" Now of mine has three extensions on it now and hoping not have to add another extension.
At least I got lucky enough to have two Husqvarna and MTD distributors. What surprises me it that most of Husqvarna belt from the distributors are cheaper than the generics. MTD not so much as they fairly unique belts.
others are just label wrong intentionally.
Well with my case with A&I it was that I pre-ordered up to an year before I actually used them. I keep having fitment problems that when I brought the tool. I found over $2000 in stock belts that were short. A&I refuse make them up. After that on every order I would measure the belts as soon as they arrived. I returned so many that they got to refusing to make even the newly received belts. It was especially with the "Made in India" belts so I simple stop ordering belts from A&I. Then started sending other defective parts. I went ordering over $4K in a year to under $500. I finally completely dropped my A&I dealership last year. Can't keep losing money just to make A&I look good.That's funny... what do they have to gain by doing this?
Or, is this just folks educated in the public school system?
Mower belts direct from the factory come in scanes or bales with nothing on them to identify them ( MTD is the exception )That's funny... what do they have to gain by doing this?
Or, is this just folks educated in the public school system?
There was nothing racist about his statement at all.Mower belts direct from the factory come in scanes or bales with nothing on them to identify them ( MTD is the exception )
Then they go usually to a sheltered workshop to get the name & size put on the belt
And this is probably where the mis sizing originates
And you can keep your racist ? comments to yourself .
Generally government education is far superiour to privet schools because their efforts go into educating the students and not getting students to ace tests .In my first year of University the student s who had the most difficulty were those from the very wealthy schools and they were all top 10 in the state in the final and the bulk were plain dumb .
Lots of answers in their skulls but not a single one could actually think
Trump went to a private school and look where that got him 9 bankrupted businesses , 3 of which were casinos, I mean how can you go broke running a casino ?
And now 91 indictments with another 49 awaiting the results of those 91
There was nothing racist about his statement at all.
Opinionated- yes. Negative and derogatory towards a public school system (US I'm assuming)..... but not racist.
If we're going to be accurate and specific in our discussions about parts, specifications, belt size etc then we also should be accurate with our use of words describing other things.
This racism, or racist term is often used as too broad of a stroke and often quite an accurately.
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I will stand admonished, I should have said elitist although elitism & racism often go hand in handI we'll also assume that the trend of private schools being superior or considered superior to public school systems occurs in more places than just the US.
If someone is somewhere that this is not the case or it is actually reversed, or even equal let's say, then the logical burden is on them to point this out.
They should not be offended by the factual statements made about other areas or other entire countries.
No reason to have any chips on anyone's shoulders due to things that are absolutely true or even stereotypes that also contain a lot of truth.
I'm glad these things get pointed out though as the differences because this is why I like open discussions and letting conversations go where they want because - people learn things!
Most of us live in one country or even one place for most or all of our lives and we tend to have a very narrow focus or even realization of anything about the rest of the world.
It's easy and a logical trap to fall into thinking it's about the same everywhere so it's good when we had discussions and can let people know of how certain things are different and sometimes completely different than what they think is normal everywhere.
No reason for people to take it offensively or get upset about how other say things.
For instance, in the US, we have been poking fun at rednecks for a long time.
It's usually more of a southern state thing or sometimes just more rural area and people just all the time.
Very few take it offensively and some (often those who certainly fit some of the stereotypes) really embrace it.
I do believe a better word would have been elitism or snobbery etc because that word racism and racist is used far too often by too many people as a broad catch-all term when it's just not right.I will stand admonished, I should have said elitist although elitism & racism often go hand in hand
And yes I did go to a public school, by choice I did get a scholarship to a very wealthy elite Anglican high school .
Their alumni has a large number of leaders of industry many of which were all convicted of pedophilia , in closed courts of course because nice rich business leaders do not do those sort of things although 42 of 48 were convicted .So then the school had a new honour board made removing those names .
And as mentioned I had to coach my entire tutorial group who were all rich snobs, till they needed help to pass enough exams to remain in university. All of them could rattle off answers to any matriculation question, but not a single one could think and one even got his father to attempt to have the engineering drawing changed from 3rd angle to first angle because he could understand the concept of planar projection. So all he had learned was rich people can bribe their way to get whatever they want . And I might add that this kid drove a Jaguar that daddy bought him as a graduation present and some how managed to get on campus parking some thing that most staff could not get .
The longest serving Prime Minister John Howard in this country went the Birrong Boys High, a government school .
The second longest serving Prime Minister & also best PM we have ever had, Bob Hawke also went to a state school, then to a state university where he won a Rhodes scholarship
Yes and we are happy to jibe each other but some inferences are plain wicked .
Public schools have to take every student in their footprint thus they do get a high proportion of students with learning difficulties but if any of them leave without a proper education then that is a fault of the system not the students
And of all of the people I have worked with over the years Americans by and large have been the worst educated , including university graduates , which of course is a problem of the US system of school governance
How many people on this list can understand a simple DC mower wiring diagram ?
Star must go crazy trying to get people to understand simple wiring that should be taught to 12 year olds .
IT is your 2 party system and voluntary voting that is the basis of thatSnip snip
We actually don't even like each other.
The only thing that ever gets us motivated and working together is being piss#d off!
We will walk backwards uphill buck-ass naked to prove a point, when a fight, or because someone tries to tell us what we can or can't do!
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We joke all the time that the only people who work hard in America are asians, mexicans, and we often specify people from India too but they are also considered Asians now right??
They didn't used to be but now they are. Crazy! But I guess I don't make the rules...sadly.
When they make me supreme dictator of the earth I will fix all the problems and situations.
Many decisions won't be popular.....but---
Pretty much everything is open to corruption and especially in this day and age. With all that convenience and laziness that promotes it, you increase the greater likelihood.IT is your 2 party system and voluntary voting that is the basis of that
The blue undies wearers have to hate the red undies wearers so they will get off their butts & Vote
And of course the same happen with the other side
IF the people are too busy fighting with each other they do not notice when they are being robbed blind
And the requirement for 1/2 billion every couple of years means the government will always be in the pockets of big business.
That is why I get 12 months warranty on the parts I buy from Rotary , Orgon , Prime LIne & Stens where s you smucks just get 1 to 3 months on the exact same parts .
This is why my hernia operation cost me $ 800 and that was 3 visits to the surgeons rooms
The operation + 2 days in hospital cost zip where as you saps have to take out a second mortgage for the same opp.
This is why the most I can ever pay for medicines that are on the PBS is $ 350 / year
This is why there has never ever been a school shooting ( yes criminals still have guns and they always will )
This is why we do not have death duties or inheritance tax
Because we are not preoccupied hating the person next door because his undies are the wrong colour, we can all hate the politicians together
Then we have more than 2 parties a basically labour party, originally fully financed by unions , a weirdly named Liberal party who are a very loose alliance of every one who detests organised labour & want pseudo-slavery introduced . They are in an almost permeant alliance with the farmers party, used to be called Country Party , now the Nationals so they are our conservaties. Then to protect those frogs & flowers we have the Greens , a bunch of very young city living environmental warriors who should be the natural partners of the farmers, but they hate them because they "destroy the land " . so goofy greens usually side with the labour , then for the right wing racists there is the "One ( white ) Nation" For the evangelicals there is a plethora of "christian" parties, some state some federal but of curse being Christians they all hate each other because one book has 3 more pages than the other book and a heap of very minor parties some with 1 or 2 senators others with just 1 lower house member .
So your paralysed parliaments never happen and extreme right or left legislation rarely happens because they always need one of the minor parties to vote for a bill so the minors get small amendments which gives then something t crow about come election time .
An independent group schedule votes so no speaker can defile democracy as Johnston is doing now
Both the government , the opposition & the cross benches can introduce a bill ( restrictions on the number ) then the bill is read for the first time and debated then and there .
Usually a week or so latter it is read a second time with any ammendments then voted on and if passed, goes onto the the Senate for a debate & vote, if ammended it goes back to the house the back to the senate
And the real killer for stable government is preferential voting So you decide who you hate the most and they get the highest number then one you hate slightly less gets one number less to you end up with the person you hate least who gets your number 1 vote .
So when the count is done if the difference between 1 & 2 is less than the sum of the others then the lowest No 1 votes get distributed to the other candidates according to who you gave the number 2 to , And this continues till there is a clear winner so often the person with the most No 1 votes does not get elected and the person who is elected is the one that the least number of people hate .
Then we have absentee voting so on polling day I can vote any where in the nation for a federal election & anywhere in a state for a state or local election .
Postal voting , which by the way always favours Labour ( Dems to you )
Pre poll voting, always favours the Liberals
Normal voting and for my electorate of 120,000 there are 46 polling booths , early voting always favours the libs & late voting always favours labour
So your 2020 vote went exactly the same as any vote in Australia would go
Conservatives in a clear lead with prepolls and early booth returns , around 50:50 for the rest of the day and a strong Labor ( dems ) postal vote
Postal are often not counted on the day if one candidate has an unassailable lead but do get added over the week so some one might win with 55% on the night but by the end of counting be down as low as 51%.
And the real beauty of compulsory voting is there has to be 120,000 votes because there are 120,000 in the electoral district thus idiot claims like 4,000 phantom votes delivered in a wheel barrow can not happen and if the final count is out by more than the winning margin then a recount happens and if tat confirms the descrepency then a frsh ballot ( must be same candidates ) hapens within 1 month
So you can see why we consider our system the stupidist system on the planet and any vote that is voluntary is open to corruption .
You can get my with aftermarket on snow blowers and some really old mowers typically older than 1997 and sometimes on Fwd craftsman BUT I will NEVER install a non MTD rider belt on an MTD mower on the double belt drive (double sheave pulley) system OR the deck blade belt.I get belts from ebay from the seller D&D Power Drive, Have all the sizes I have ever ordered.
They are in Iowa, belts run a little short. I am in Wisconsin, get belt in about 4 days.