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Using a push Reel Mower - What I've learned

#1

bt3

bt3

Hey gents.

I have two powered mowers (in Avatar) but I have also owned a Scott's 20" push reel mower for about 10 years. I try and mow off and on with it from late mid June to until the leaves drop with the Reel mower when I can. Surprisingly, if you set it up correctly and the conditions are right, you reely (pun intended) can do a decent job on lawns that are much larger than your typical small city lot. There are a few things I have learned about them:

1.) Don't let your grass get too tall. The scissors action of the blades will not cut tall grass, or at least, won't cut it well.
2.) Very thick grass may need to be gone over twice to get it under control.
3.) Crabgrass is a bear to cut with a push reel mower. You can cut it, but it's not easy. It feels like the mower is in quicksand.
4.) Twigs are a genuine pain in the butt. A small twig on your lawn seems to find the reels like a homing pigeon and will stop a reel mower faster than you can say "HALT!"
5.) They need very little maintenance. Just a quick cleaning, some grease and blade adjustment once a month or so to make sure all blades are hitting the cutting plate properly.
6.) They do cut in dew or wet grass, but you may not get quite as clean a cut as when on dry grass.
7.) Most weeds will remain behind and will not get cut.
8.) You can avoid wearing any hearing protection, or if you wish, your earbuds and your ipod for tunes while cutting.
9.) Your neighbors will not know you are cutting the lawn, so you can cut in early AM or when they are out back BBQing without bothering anyone.
10.) Some passers-by will stop and say, "Wow, an old fashioned mower. I didn't know that they still making those!"
11.) Trim is a bit of a pain. You have to exercise some patience with cutting around trees and bushes and landscaping. Sometimes you need a bit of "Back and Forth" to get it cut properly.
12.) They do NOT mulch at all, so your clippings just fall behind the mower or on your feet or in a catch bagger. Yet unlike rotary mowers, there is no clumping of grass clippings even with taller grass.
13.) You probably won't miss gassing or changing the oil or hard starting or the vibration of a rotary mower. You will miss the easy trimming or weed cutting.
14.) You have to "Overlap" your mowing rows. Unlike rotary mowers, the blade does not extend beyond the wheels, so you have to do a few inches of overlap on the wheel marks in your lawn. A 20" mower give you about an 18" cut with overlap.
15.) If you are not moving forward, the blades are not spinning, so sometimes you have to get a short running-start before you get to the area you want cut.

I honestly could not do 100 percent without a power mower, especially in the spring or when leaves are dropping, but otherwise, it's quite amazing what you can o with a simple push reel mower. And the gas and oil cost savings is nice. Plus you don't smell like you have been "mowing the lawn" with a gas mower when you come in. You are just sweaty and smell like cut grass. ;)

I only paid about $79 for mine at Home Depot 10 years ago. They have gone up a bit since then. Amazon is selling them for about $135. Since mine has lasted 10 years and still looks and operates like new, that's not a bad deal.

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#2

L

lewb

I think it depends on how big of a lawn or elevation changes on using a push reel mower. I am guessing it would take me 4 hours to push my lawn that way. Some farmers still use a team of horses to plow and plant their crops.


#3

S

shiftsuper175607

Hey gents.

I have two powered mowers (in Avatar) but I have also owned a Scott's 20" push reel mower for about 10 years. I try and mow off and on with it from late mid June to until the leaves drop with the Reel mower when I can. Surprisingly, if you set it up correctly and the conditions are right, you reely (pun intended) can do a decent job on lawns that are much larger than your typical small city lot. There are a few things I have learned about them:

1.) Don't let your grass get too tall. The scissors action of the blades will not cut tall grass, or at least, won't cut it well.
2.) Very thick grass may need to be gone over twice to get it under control.
3.) Crabgrass is a bear to cut with a push reel mower. You can cut it, but it's not easy. It feels like the mower is in quicksand.
4.) Twigs are a genuine pain in the butt. A small twig on your lawn seems to find the reels like a homing pigeon and will stop a reel mower faster than you can say "HALT!"
5.) They need very little maintenance. Just a quick cleaning, some grease and blade adjustment once a month or so to make sure all blades are hitting the cutting plate properly.
6.) They do cut in dew or wet grass, but you may not get quite as clean a cut as when on dry grass.
7.) Most weeds will remain behind and will not get cut.
8.) You can avoid wearing any hearing protection, or if you wish, your earbuds and your ipod for tunes while cutting.
9.) Your neighbors will not know you are cutting the lawn, so you can cut in early AM or when they are out back BBQing without bothering anyone.
10.) Some passers-by will stop and say, "Wow, an old fashioned mower. I didn't know that they still making those!"
11.) Trim is a bit of a pain. You have to exercise some patience with cutting around trees and bushes and landscaping. Sometimes you need a bit of "Back and Forth" to get it cut properly.
12.) They do NOT mulch at all, so your clippings just fall behind the mower or on your feet or in a catch bagger. Yet unlike rotary mowers, there is no clumping of grass clippings even with taller grass.
13.) You probably won't miss gassing or changing the oil or hard starting or the vibration of a rotary mower. You will miss the easy trimming or weed cutting.
14.) You have to "Overlap" your mowing rows. Unlike rotary mowers, the blade does not extend beyond the wheels, so you have to do a few inches of overlap on the wheel marks in your lawn. A 20" mower give you about an 18" cut with overlap.
15.) If you are not moving forward, the blades are not spinning, so sometimes you have to get a short running-start before you get to the area you want cut.

I honestly could not do 100 percent without a power mower, especially in the spring or when leaves are dropping, but otherwise, it's quite amazing what you can o with a simple push reel mower. And the gas and oil cost savings is nice. Plus you don't smell like you have been "mowing the lawn" with a gas mower when you come in. You are just sweaty and smell like cut grass. ;)

I only paid about $79 for mine at Home Depot 10 years ago. They have gone up a bit since then. Amazon is selling them for about $135. Since mine has lasted 10 years and still looks and operates like new, that's not a bad deal.

At least you don't sound like some environmental wacko who wants to ban all gas powered lawn mowers.
When we cleaned up at my granddad's there was a gas powered reel mower. It was sitting outside and had bad wheels. I started to get it as a memento, as I did use a push reel mower there as a kid. I regret I did not.
I have too much lawn and not enough time for anything but a riding mower now.


#4

bt3

bt3

Heck no, I love my power mowers. Hey, I even have an EVIL 2 stroke Lawnboy! :)

I'm not saying anyone has to go reel mower, I'm just pointing out what I learned by using one.

The property I mow with mine is about 1 acre. It takes me about 15 minutes longer with the Reel Mower, mostly because of trim and a few places where the grass just grows like wildfire and I have to go over that area twice.

It really is nice to be able to listen to tunes while I mow, without having to use ear protection. But if it's not for you, then it's not for you. Lord knows I use my power mowers extensively too. Especially when the leaves fall. My Snapper HiVac really chops them up with the Ninja blade.


#5

Bob E

Bob E

I would also add sharpening a reel mower is more difficult than a rotary mower, and gang reels don't like bumpy yards. You have to go real slow or they tend to bounce and skip a beat.
I once saw a picture of a powered reel mower with a sickle bar in front of the reel, I bet that would be a good improvement.


#6

bt3

bt3

Great idea for the Sickle Bar.

I don't sharpen my reel blades. The cutting blade does most of the work (bottom plate), and if you have the mower properly set-up, it is self-sharpening. Of course, if you buy a used one that is duller than a stone, you will have to sharpen both the cutting blade and the reels. There are many Youtube vids on how to properly do this.

I test the reels with the cutting blade once every month with a sheet of paper and make sure each reel cuts the paper on all parts of the blade contact. This assures you have it set up right and it will cut well and stay sharp just from the scissors action.

Yes, there are negatives to any reel mowers, even powered reel mowers. My dad had an old REO gas powered reel mower from the 50's and it cut the lawn beautifully, but keeping it tuned up and cutting well was a PITA. Rotary mowers are just easy. Unless you have a tiny city lot. Then I'd only have a push reel. My lots are big, and on the verge of being too big for any push mower, let alone an unpowered reel mower. But I look at it as a free workout. One less day I have to spend in the gym. ;) But I sometimes wish I had never sold my lawn tractor!


#7

Bob E

Bob E

I'm only mowing three quarters of an acre these days and I've thought about giving up my lawn tractor. I could also use the exercise, the extra space in the shed, and I often see good push mower going for peanuts on my local craigslist.
But being able to mow and trim my whole place in about an hour is pretty nice.


#8

KrashnKraka

KrashnKraka

IF I could add to the OP's learning curve the cut on reel mowers
preserves the turf like no other. They are used exclusively on
golf courses, race tracks, cricket pitches and lawn bowls greens
for that sole reason.
Also they are sharpened with abrading stones, requiring a patient
skill and a true eye.

Then there is there is the scythe....
scythe - Google Search

My earliest memory of mowing is Father upgrading to the timber framed
reel mower when he went "commercial" in taking on the two neighbours.
The lawns were perfect :thumbsup:


#9

bt3

bt3

Yes, I have always read that Reel Mowers are the best cut and the healthiest cut for your lawn. My Father had a 50's REO Gas Reel Mower.

I have always wanted a powered Reel Mower, but never got around to it. Plus, I have a wooded lot and the twigs are a real problem for Reel Mowers. As I posted, they can really stop a Reel dead in it's tracks. But a Power Reel is different. That would cut through twigs.

Pushing a Reel Mower is a different experience on mowing your lawn. With my home footprint, trees and landscaping taken out of the equation, I've probably got 3/4 of an Acre to mow. It's tough with a reel mower. But the exercise is truly great. It does save me a trip to the Gym on cutting days.


#10

KrashnKraka

KrashnKraka

Pushing a Reel Mower is a different experience on mowing your lawn. With my home footprint, trees and landscaping taken out of the equation, I've probably got 3/4 of an Acre to mow. It's tough with a reel mower. But the exercise is truly great. It does save me a trip to the Gym on cutting days.

Elsewhere I have seen pix of lawns to a streetscape (USA) which would suit a
reelmower - doing a far improved job/finish. The "lawnboy" is using a 50" ZTR!
It would cost more to get it off the trailer than time spent mowing.
With DC motor technology improving every other week it wont be long
before we see electric reel mowers which work to a price point.

Be a cottage industry opening up supplying rotor sharpening :)

KK


#11

bt3

bt3

Been using the Reel Mower 100 percent the last month. No problem except for the Crabgrass my neighbor cultivates that invades my lawn. Cutting Crabgrass with a Reel Mower is a pain in the butt. You can cut it, but it takes a lot of effort, and it's thick, so the cutting is not easy.

I'll probably continue using the Reel until the first leaves start to fall, then convert back to the Snapper for power mulching the leaves.

My Lawnboy is still in need of new rings and I've been too busy to pursue that fix. I really need to as it's the only mower left that mulches AND has working self-propel. My Snapper's self propel is down and it's going to be a bear to fix. Easier to put in new piston rings on the Lawnboy.


#12

bt3

bt3

Another month with just the push Reel Mower.

I'm enjoying being able to listen to music while cutting with a simple Bluetooth Stereo Headset from Amazon connected to my Smartphone. With no motor noise, I can just put in the earbuds and start mowing. It's sort of like being at the gym.

I'm missing cutting and mulching the few leaves that have fallen I think because of high wind or drought. Although the grass is still green as I water and cut high.

I'd not recommend a Reel Mower to everyone, but my lawn looks great this year. Soon I'll have to switch to the Snapper Rotary Mower for Fall leaves. The experiment will be over.


#13

bt3

bt3

I have been trying to use the Reel Mower more and more the last few years. This Spring, I did the first two mowing with the Snapper to get things settled on the lawn and chop up any debris from the Winter. Then I converted to the 21" Scotts Reel Mower.

You have to stay on top of the cutting because if the lawn gets too thick and too high, it's very difficult to get it back under control with a push reel mower. I do enjoy the fact that I can put in earbuds and have my iPhone with me and jam to music while I'm getting some exercise without motor noise. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, my neighbor likes to cultivate Crabgrass, so I have had to stay on top of killing the Crabgrass that invades my lawn as it it very tough to cut with a reel mower.

My father had a REO Gas Powered Reel Mower. I wish I had that. It produced a beautifully cut lawn, was self propelled, and probably would have lasted a lifetime with good service.


#14

B

bertsmobile1

Elsewhere I have seen pix of lawns to a streetscape (USA) which would suit a
reelmower - doing a far improved job/finish. The "lawnboy" is using a 50" ZTR!
It would cost more to get it off the trailer than time spent mowing.
With DC motor technology improving every other week it wont be long
before we see electric reel mowers which work to a price point.

Be a cottage industry opening up supplying rotor sharpening :)

KK

Electric reel mowers have been around since the 40's.
Even more dangerious than electric rotary mowers.


AFAIK no one does an battery reel which would be a big improvement.
Down side is the limited range of cutting heights, You have to cut low so you have to cut very frequently and water a lot in summer so there is a limited suitable weather zone where they would do well.
Down here in summer the golf courses mow everything daily and greens some times twice a day.


#15

bt3

bt3

Electric reel mowers have been around since the 40's.
Even more dangerious than electric rotary mowers.


AFAIK no one does an battery reel which would be a big improvement.
Down side is the limited range of cutting heights, You have to cut low so you have to cut very frequently and water a lot in summer so there is a limited suitable weather zone where they would do well.
Down here in summer the golf courses mow everything daily and greens some times twice a day.

I'd love to have a gas reel mower but the prices are outrageous. I had an opportunity to buy a brand new "JC PENNY" brand (probably made by Toro at the time) many years ago for $399. I should have purchased it. I can't bring myself to pay $1,800 for a gas reel mower, so I just go with the push reel mowers.

As I stated, my father only used a REO Gas Reel Mower stating that nothing produces a more beautiful law cut and only used a rotary once in the Spring and then in the fall to mulch the leaves.


#16

bt3

bt3

Well, here it is a year later, and I'm still going strong with the Scott's Push Reel Mower. No gas, no oil (other than lubricating the reel and wheels twice a year).

Used the Snapper to do the first two Spring mows to chop up any winter debris or leaves, then converted to the reel mower. After a while, you get a knack for adjusting the cutting bar perfectly to keep the reel blades sharp. It's really an art getting this perfect. 1/4 turn on the adjustment screws makes a BIG difference.

Scott's sells a "sharpening kit" for their reel mowers, but IMO, it's a bit of a rip-off. It's basically sand paper strips in a kit that bolts on to the cutting bar to de-burr the reels for a few minutes, then you take it off. I think if you keep the cutting bar adjusted properly, you won't have an issue.

I mow in the mornings when neighbors are usually out for their morning walks and rarely if ever does someone NOT stop to talk to me. They are absolutely fascinated that I'm using an old push reel mower. They all want to know how old it is, and when I tell them it's a new Scott's model, they are dumbfounded.

The only issue to this day is those darn twigs in the lawn. Any little errant twig and the reels jam instantly causing a rapid halt to the mower. Other than that, I have to say it's a neat way to mow the lawn, and it does a great job if you have it adjusted properly.


#17

C

cashman

Back in the early 1960's, there were still quite a few reel mowers in use. We had a reel mower sharpener and my Granddad showed me how to sharpen them. The reel mowers back then were heavy compared to the ones you buy now because they were mostly made of cast iron. Over the years, I've sold some reel mowers to homeowners made by Tru-Cut in California. I've still got one of my Grandmothers reel mowers, a Great States cast iron unit from the 1950's. With the right conditions, a reel mower can make a yard beautiful in a way that a rotary mower can't do.


#18

bt3

bt3

Back in the early 1960's, there were still quite a few reel mowers in use. We had a reel mower sharpener and my Granddad showed me how to sharpen them. The reel mowers back then were heavy compared to the ones you buy now because they were mostly made of cast iron. Over the years, I've sold some reel mowers to homeowners made by Tru-Cut in California. I've still got one of my Grandmothers reel mowers, a Great States cast iron unit from the 1950's. With the right conditions, a reel mower can make a yard beautiful in a way that a rotary mower can't do.

I agree Cashman.

I've said this before in posts, but I dearly wish I had my father's 1953 REO Gas Powered Self-Propelled Reel Mower. That thing was a tank. And what a B-E-A-UTIFUL cut it made on the lawn. He threw it in the garbage when it stopped running. Probably just a spark issue. It kills me every time I think about it.

I found one on Youtube, but as yet, have not found one on eBay.
This one has been re-painted. Original paint was DARK green, like a British Racing Green. But someone did a very nice job of restoring this one, although the color is not right;



#19

C

cashman

That's an interesting Reo! Looks like it still runs pretty well. It reminded me of many years ago, I had the opportunity to travel to London England. While there, I saw a guy using a reel mower with a 2 cycle motor. In England, they cut the grass really short. Like half inch short. I talked to the guy using the mower and he said it was a Ransomes from the 1930's with if I remember right, a Villiers engine and you could tell it had been very well maintained. They take a lot of pride over there maintaining their yards and they take very good care of their equipment and at that time, they used a lot of reel mowers.


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