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What is the most oil that you've drain out of the oil sump? Not talking carb needle issues. Oil smells like oil.

Question, is 3 quarts too much out of a Briggs 3.5hp horizontal engine? Guy said it smoked LOL. Little guy had 20 bucks worth of oil in it LOL.

slomo

Just the other day a neighbor came over and said his push mower was smoking. It was a mess with oil all over the top of the deck by the exhaust can. Oil was about an inch too high on the stick. Drained it out and replaced with 1/2 quart of clean 30W and it started to smoke less. Will take a while to clear and may need to clean his spark plug, but we'll see.

You fill it with gas and check the oil, not the other way around.

...the rest of the story is - the neighbor bought his first home with a lawn that needs mowing, so he has no experience with mowers at all. I showed him where the oil level needs to be and he was content to test it noting that it smoked less.

"You fill it with gas and check the oil, not the other way around."

I wouldn't say that to an inexperienced owner, but it's what needs to be demonstrated. Some people have no experience or training with machines. I take it for granted having grown up on a farm with 2 grandfathers - one do-it-your-selfer and one car mechanic. The car mechanic would come over for dinner after grandma died and ask: "Have you got anything that needs fixing?" He fixed our toaster and hair curler for the girls and anything else that was broken. We watched him closely. Good model.

YIPES ! That is a LOT of oil.

I bought a Chevy pickup with a 350, 4 bolt main V-8 engine, one time that was really smoking . I saw that the dipstick was showing oil to the top ! . Towed it home & drained about 8-9 qts. out of it. Old type cannister filter housing had 2" of dirt in the bottom of it ! New filter, oil, & started it up. Smoked a lot , then drove it down the interstate to " blow it out !" Then, new plugs, wires, etc. & sold it for a very nice profit.

slomo said:

What is the most oil that you've drain out of the oil sump? Not talking carb needle issues. Oil smells like oil.

Question, is 3 quarts too much out of a Briggs 3.5hp horizontal engine? Guy said it smoked LOL. Little guy had 20 bucks worth of oil in it LOL.

slomo

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that is what happens when people have the high mount oil hole/dipstick and just fill it to the top. I think I have drained about 3 quarts if not more out of a few Briggs L head push mowers that had the high mount dipstick.

On the other side of the equation. How many have had people bring in new push mowers that come with the required 16 ounce oil bottle and then only dump in half.

ILENGINE said:

...On the other side of the equation. How many have had people bring in new push mowers that come with the required 16 ounce oil bottle and then only dump in half.

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Yikes. Have not seen that...yet.

Joe Kuhn said:

Yikes. Have not seen that...yet.

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Just wait..........

Scrubcadet10 said:

Just wait..........

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I have seen a snowblower with no oil in it and a piston that tried to go through the side of the case. Ended up buying it and putting in a $99 Harbor Freight motor in that works great. Turns out the older neighbor who owned it is memory challenged and forgot to put in the good stuff. Wreckage photos:





Another neighbor had a full quart in his push mower last spring. Showed him where it needs to be on the stick. This was after I got a Junker off his curb that had the spark plug threads stripped out of it. A service tag had his phone number on it, so I texted him after I got a thread insert installed. Declined the repaired machine as he had already purchased new, which is the one that was overfilled with oil. Ha! We are now good friends.

Joe Kuhn said:

Yikes. Have not seen that...yet.

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I see two or three a year.

ILENGINE said:

I see two or three a year.

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Any damage caused by that? Sounds like an opportunity to train about the level on the stick. Had to teach my daughter that with her car after she ran out of trans oil. Ouch.

Note I added damage photos from no oil in an 8 hp snowblower. See above.

@Joe Kuhn So far no known damage. Oil usually on the dipstick at the low mark or at least touching the dipstick. When asked about it the reply is normally along the lines of didn't know, thought I could save some for later, I think the issue is people think it is a quart bottle not a pint bottle. so they think they should add half the bottle.

ILENGINE said:

@Joe Kuhn So far no known damage. Oil usually on the dipstick at the low mark or at least touching the dipstick. When asked about it the reply is normally along the lines of didn't know, thought I could save some for later, I think the issue is people think it is a quart bottle not a pint bottle. so they think they should add half the bottle.

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Nothing like the old dipstick demonstration to bring their focus to the most important part, regardless of the bottle size, but you know this. "It's like your car..." is what I like to say. Now for Tesla owners, that's irrelevant. Hah!

@ILENGINE - what do you tell people to steer them correctly? I don't want to be insulting, but then I want them to understand.

Next post up is used mower no oil on the stick.

slomo

Joe, you basically have to explain to them how to check the oil, and show them where the oil level is supposed to be and where their oil level actually is. But you also need to keep in mind that just because you can explain to the customer what they did wrong and need to correct the issue, you can't make them understand.

Most of the time I have to add the required oil to do any testing to diagnose their issues. You wouldn't believe the number of mowers that I get in that were just purchased that day or a couple of days ago, and have the fuel tank half full of water.

slomo said:

Next post up is used mower no oil on the stick.

slomo

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Have not seen that one.

I see a LOT of people, when they check the oil they invert the stick so the oil runs down it making it look fuller. "See it's right on the full mark" LOL.

slomo

ILENGINE said:

Joe, you basically have to explain to them how to check the oil, and show them where the oil level is supposed to be and where their oil level actually is. But you also need to keep in mind that just because you can explain to the customer what they did wrong and need to correct the issue, you can't make them understand.

Most of the time I have to add the required oil to do any testing to diagnose their issues. You wouldn't believe the number of mowers that I get in that were just purchased that day or a couple of days ago, and have the fuel tank half full of water.

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Just did a training exercise with the neighbor boy. I showed him where the level was, had him wipe the stick with a rag and check it again. I think (hope) he's got it. We'll see when he's done mowing. I'll have him check it again as a test and to show him that it doesn't change with one mowing.

Water in the fuel tank is pretty unbelievable.

I had a guy at work bring me his generator that wouldn't start. It turned out to be a low oil level which is sensed internally and prevents the engine from running. Added a little oil and I was done.

slomo said:

I see a LOT of people, when they check the oil they invert the stick so the oil runs down it making it look fuller. "See it's right on the full mark" LOL.

slomo

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I don't think there is a week sometimes where I am not either adding a cup of oil to a pushmower because they either added half the bottle, or decided that the 16 ounce bottle that comes with the mower isn't good enough so they go purchase their own oil and then dump in the entire quart which I then have to pump out. Add in the cup or more of water about every two weeks and things get interesting.

slomo said:

I see a LOT of people, when they check the oil they invert the stick so the oil runs down it making it look fuller. "See it's right on the full mark" LOL.

slomo

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Thanks for your reminder. I better make that clear to the neighbor boy who is mowing for the family down the street with a girl that has cancer. I've been mowing their lawn for a month to help them out and just handed the task off to this boy who's looking for work. They gave him $20 last week.

Hah. Water in a mower. Why would they think that? Cars have radiators that take water. I suppose that's part of their thinking.

Joe Kuhn said:

Thanks for your reminder. I better make that clear to the neighbor boy who is mowing for the family down the street with a girl that has cancer. I've been mowing their lawn for a month to help them out and just handed the task off to this boy who's looking for work. They gave him $20 last week.

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Offer the girl's parents that the girl needs to be on dog wormer. It is very cheap, can't over dose and zero side effects. Wormer works by eliminating the food source for the cancer cells. Cancer cells die off, nothing to eat, that's it.

This has been know way back in the 1950's and probably before by the medical field. Doctors don't recommend it because all these new cancer centers like MD Anderson in Texas and MANY others are a BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS. It's all about the mighty dollar and NOT helping the patient at all. Oh lets runs some more tests $$$$$$$

My sister had stage 4 liver cancer. Didn't tell her doctor she was on wormer. In 1.5 months she was and IS cancer free. She had a full body scan. The doctors were stunned. She was doing chemo and all the other s h i t, losing her hair that came back junk. She's all good now. Had another PET scan, all clear.

slomo

There was a story on the news. Guy was told to go home and say goodbye to his family. Cancer was in every organ he had. Dude was totally ate up with cancer. No treatment worked for him. Guy took dog wormer. He is 100% cancer free.

slomo

Total, spontaneous remissions of every sort of cancer occur frequently enough that cures like de-wormer, krebiozen, or sitting in a uranium mine can gain credibility. None work.

If you have credible evidence that any physician or medical center is engaging in dishonest practices, kindly inform your state and local authorities.

kinsler33 said:

Total, spontaneous remissions of every sort of cancer occur frequently enough that cures like de-wormer, krebiozen, or sitting in a uranium mine can gain credibility. None work.

If you have credible evidence that any physician or medical center is engaging in dishonest practices, kindly inform your state and local authorities.

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When I hear "my scan was cancer free", what would you call it? Working or not working?

"None work". Tell that to my sister which is 100% cancer free.

I'm not selling anything here. Just thought it might help another forum member. I've seen it work for a family member. Interweb has a ton of other success stories. Do you own research.

State and local authorities? There is no such thing.

slomo

Well actually right now you can buy worm eggs to consume to infest your gut with intestinal worms
There is strong evidence that the excreations of worms living in your gut actually protect you from some forms of cancer & gut ulcers .
The theory goes is we evolved with intestinal worms but it is only in recient years that western societies have rid their bodies of these worms where as the 3rd world still lives with them
Cancer is very much a first world problem and almost never heard of in third world countries .
Cause & effect or co-incidence ?
What it is easy to forget is cancer is not a disease you catch it is a malfunction of the bodies own metabolism which allows cells that should die & be carried away to continue to grow.
People die from cancer either because the growths prevent the body from performing vital functions or the immune system kills the person while trying to eradicate the cancer cells .
As such it is most like an auto immune disease where your own body is killing you .
And like a lot of auto immune conditions that suddenly flare up then go into remission, cancers can and do do the exact same thing.
Then when they go into remission people look around for reasons and of course end up attributing the remission to all sorts of silly things .

Now what we do know is a lot of cancers are genetic in origin and probably linked to the individuals Genome but it will take a lot more testing & number crunching to verify .
In reality we are nothing more than another animal on the planet but unlike all of the other species people with a mass of genetic defects do not die at or shortly after birth in 1st world countries.
They go on to thrive & propogate handing down the bad genes to future generations where as in 3rd world countries most would die so only the good strong gene lines survive.
My father had his appendix removed because it was highly inflamed. Mine burst while I was in casulty for a totally different reason & my sons have needed to have theirs removed as well.
Co-incidence or bad genes ?
I had a 1st cousin with severe asthma , she eventually died from lung cancer, she had 6 asthmatic children and 10 asthmatic grandchildren
Co-incidence or bad genes ?

Good thing about worming tablets is about the worst side effect you could get is colitis so they will probably do you no harm but I seriously doubt they will cure any bodies cancer.