Export thread

Upgrade to Flat-Free tires/wheels

#1

B

BohoRex

I've got an OLD Snapper LT-125 - with the original wheels, and have changed the tires - yearly - because... well... mesquite tree thorns.

I'm over fighting the air-filled small tires to get them installed on the wheels - and really would like to move to some flat-free options. And note: I'm not necessarily using this Snapper as a mower - so a flat tread is NOT necessary -.... I'm using it more as an ATV to haul beekeeping equipment and feed through muddy fields when it's too wet/muddy to get my flatbed F150 in and out - and am at risk of getting the truck stuck. I figure I can leave the mower in a client's field til it dries out a bit if it gets stuck - and not risk the truck (again).

Here's what's on currently -
7101563 - Rear Tire & Wheel
1729708 - Front Tire & Wheel (plus the bearings)

The wheels on the Snapper have appx a 2" hub offset on the inside of each of the wheels.

Is anyone aware of either a tire replacement that can install on the wheels? Or a whole wheel/tire assembly kit - that's a flat-free option?

Thanks,
Rex S.


#2

M

MParr

Have you thought about filling them with foam?


#3

B

BohoRex

Only very briefly. I looked through a few YT videos on filling with foam - and that didn't seem like a good long-term solution with the way foam compresses over time after cured.


#4

S

slomo

Have you thought about filling them with foam?
The guy that has to change them after you do this will choke you out for doing it. LOL Around here when tire shops hear Fix-A-Flat, they send you packing. Won't even touch your junk.


#5

B

bertsmobile1

A lot of professional green keeping mowers will use split rims on the deck
If you are not mowing with it them there is no real reason to stick with the original wheels or even the original bearings / bushes
So the fronts are available as either split rim or solid just look up 15x6x6 split rim wheels or 15x6x6 solid tyres
The rears will be a bit more tricky but again try looking for 20x10x8 split rim
To fit the latter you chop the rim off your original wheels leaving the flange & hub . The drill the hub to take the bolts for the split rim wheel .
If necessary you may need to add some spacers .

Alternatively get some good quality 6 ply tubeless tyres , a 12V air compressor & a mower tyre plug kit ( Northern Labs from memory )
Do not use car plugs because car plugs need heat build up to activate the glue & make the plug stay in place where as mower tyres will never get hot enough.
The just find the thorn , push it through or pull it out then plug the tyre .
The landlord used to use the 2000 series Cubs to clear out the paddocks & creeks of Lantana , Blackberries & Honey Locuts . The latter grow thorns up to 4" long that go strait through the 40 HP International tractor tyres so some of those cubs had over 40 plugs in them
Six ply tyres make a big difference and new ones with deep treads make a bigger difference .
Tubes are for filling the beds of mental asylums or a last ditch emergency repair when the side walls are so cracked they leak around the manufacturers brand names .


#6

M

MParr

The guy that has to change them after you do this will choke you out for doing it. LOL Around here when tire shops hear Fix-A-Flat, they send you packing. Won't even touch your junk.
I’m not talking about fix-a-flat. I’m talking about spray foam insulation.
There is also a special rubberized filling that is sometimes put in agricultural tractor tires.


#7

M

MParr

I was talking about fix-a-flat. Spray foam is even worse. Do a set of four and take it to your local tire shop. See what they say.
Does it really matter? The OP isn’t using it as a lawn mower. He’s using it as a hauler/ATV. He’s worried about Mesquite thorns. When he wears the tires out, he can replace the entire wheel assembly.
Some tire shops offer polyurethane tire fill for ATV, lawn tractor, and zero turn tires.
I have actually seen this stuff work in farm tractors. When I was employed with our county public works, all of the tractors were filled with this stuff before ever going into service. Mowing roadsides, there was lots of down time due to flats. The polyurethane fill ended that maintenance problem. The tires were in service so long that the actual tire wore out before the polyurethane filling failed.
The OP should call his local tire shops and inquire about the stuff.


#8

M

MParr

This is the stuff that I was talking about.


#9

B

bertsmobile1

I’m not talking about fix-a-flat. I’m talking about spray foam insulation.
There is also a special rubberized filling that is sometimes put in agricultural tractor tires.
The stuff is called tyre moese and is frightfully expensive
Farm tractors usually run tubed tyres 1/3 filled with water for ballast


#10

M

MParr

The stuff is called tyre moese and is frightfully expensive
Farm tractors usually run tubed tyres 1/3 filled with water for ballast
That might be true. However, that’s what went in every tire of the tractors that pulled our county roadside mowers (15’ flex wing and 7’ rotary mowers). Tractor tires are more expensive than the fill.


#11

B

bertsmobile1

County mowers = spending tax payers money
Farm tractor = spending your own money
Worlds of difference .


#12

M

MParr

County mowers = spending tax payers money
Farm tractor = spending your own money
Worlds of difference .
The OP is talking about a Snapper riding mower. The cost would not be as steep on small tires. A new wheel assembly is around $100 each. I’m sure that there are local tire dealers who offers that service for small equipment too. He should call around and ask his local tire dealers about his problem and the solution.


#13

2

2muchgrass2mow

Shortly after buying my JD lawn tractor, it developed a very, very slow leak in the left front tire. I would have to put air in every week before mowing. I found a product I'm sure all you guys know about - "Slime". It's a suspension with tiny polyurethane bits and fibers. I had used a similar product Sears sold several years ago. Anyway, it's "squeezed" through a tube into the flattened tire with the valve removed (of course) before refilling air, then rolls around in there under outward pressure, filling any small punctures. They boldly claim it will seal up to 1/4 in. hole. I don't want to find out if that's true, but it worked beautifully for me - no more leak, and that was nearly 3 yrs. ago. I don't know if it is heavy duty enough for Boho's problem, but just thought I'd comment.


#14

M

MParr

Shortly after buying my JD lawn tractor, it developed a very, very slow leak in the left front tire. I would have to put air in every week before mowing. I found a product I'm sure all you guys know about - "Slime". It's a suspension with tiny polyurethane bits and fibers. I had used a similar product Sears sold several years ago. Anyway, it's "squeezed" through a tube into the flattened tire with the valve removed (of course) before refilling air, then rolls around in there under outward pressure, filling any small punctures. They boldly claim it will seal up to 1/4 in. hole. I don't want to find out if that's true, but it worked beautifully for me - no more leak, and that was nearly 3 yrs. ago. I don't know if it is heavy duty enough for Boho's problem, but just thought I'd comment.
It’s not. Texas Mesquite thorns are a big problem. The OP is going to need to contact a local tire shop or ATV shop and find out what they recommend.


#15

S

Skippydiesel

The stuff is called tyre moese and is frightfully expensive
Farm tractors usually run tubed tyres 1/3 filled with water for ballast
I am a retired agricultural scientist/farmer - Water filling of tyres as ballast is an old fashioned cheap trick, that should not be used on modern tractors. Modern tractors are:
  • Designed with well researched weight distribution
  • Require a certain degree of wheel slip to protect gears and clutch systems
  • Reliant on air/tyre wall flex for suspension and transmission cushioning
  • If weight must be added , use the correct wheel weights, front frame weights or a ballast box on the 3 point linkage.
Water in tyres has only two good features - it cheap and a leak shows up easily.
Anyone having to remove/repair a water filled tyre will know that .5 - 1 tonne of water is really hard to manage without the aid of a front end loader/forklift.


#16

B

BohoRex

The OP is talking about a Snapper riding mower. The cost would not be as steep on small tires. A new wheel assembly is around $100 each. I’m sure that there are local tire dealers who offers that service for small equipment too. He should call around and ask his local tire dealers about his problem and the solution.
And for now - I'm running the tires I put on this last winter - with the Green Slime sealant inside. Knock on simulated woodgrain vinyl - but so far - I've not had any problems - as the stop-leak is doing it's job.

No matter what - it's a pain in the rear to change the tires on those tiny rims... I watched a video on the split rim wheels - I'd LOVE that - compared to the pain it is to change them...


#17

S

slomo

1728601541615.png


#18

S

Skippydiesel

Slomo - Product name? Web page ? Your experience ?


#19

M

MParr

@slomo
A set of Tweels for the OP’s Snapper 125 would cost more than the mower is worth.


Top