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UPDATE - 2021 Bad Boy Maverick - "MISSING" HYDRAULIC RESERVOIRS

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BuddyLA

UPDATE - The newer, 2021 and newer DONOT have reservoirs for the Hydraulic Fluids - the fill area is a plug on top of the TRANSAXLE. So if you need to change the oil the same procedure apply except for the fill tanks as described on the picture below whereas you use the "Fill Port" to pour the fresh oil.

2021 Bad Boy 54" Maverick with Kohler Engine - 9/21 Purchase

Has anyone else had this issue. Apparently I am missing KEY components from my mower and had no idea until yesterday.

I had my mechanic come and do the 50 hour Hydraulic Maintenance which requires changing the filters, draining the Hydraulic fluids and then replenishing. I have had my mower almost a year and have had no issues except for routine maintenance, even the dealer had not noticed this until now.

Upon inspecting the mower and trying to locate the reservoirs we both came to the unbelievable reality that the Manufacturer never installed the reservoirs, which there are two on either side. So my question is this - obviously the reservoirs need to be installed but the real concern is the shape and abuse of the Hydraulic system over the past year with only the fluid that was in the gear boxes originally. Should these also be replaced or will they be OK? These are Major lubricating components that are missing and most likely would have worn the gear without the proper lubrication needed.

Thanks for input - the picture shows where the reservoirs are supposed to be - MINE ARE MISSING!

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StarTech

StarTech

Many homer owners ZTR run the ZT2800 and ZT3100 series as sealed units without problems and the ZT3200 is basically the same transaxle.


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BuddyLA

StarTech said:
Many homer owners ZTR run the ZT2800 and ZT3100 series as sealed units without problems and the ZT3200 is basically the same transaxle.
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Thanks for the info - so does that mean the transaxle fluid does not need to be changed or they are service normally and rather filled from the top?


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bertsmobile1

They come in a variety of variations according to the mower factories specs
There are 2 fill ports on the hydro and the breather makes 3 ( easy to break )
Down side is the units have to come out to get to them unless BB have put an access hole in the floor .


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MParr

Apparently, Bad Boy has decided not to add fluid reservoirs and plumbing for their updated Maverick. You can certainly add them if you like. Look at the 2022 Maverick parts list. There ARE NO RESERVOIRS on the Maverick.


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7394

7394

My 2021 Scag Liberty has none either, I noticed that prior to purchase last year.. Questioned my Dealer, he said it was new design to avoid possible plumbing leaks.. (whatever). Then I called Hydro-Gear & they confirmed the same.

Mine runs super. And I have easy access big holes thru the floor. I get to 50+ hours, I will be servicing my HG 2800s' here to get her off to good start.. Combo of both will still till take 1 gallon & about 1/3 to 1/2 qt.. Plenty of oil. Definitely serviceable & require it being done @ proper intervals.

And having the "breather" on top of each unit shows it was not meant for external reservoirs.. My Top fill port & side fluid level port are easily accessible... Don't worry, be happy.

I have 5 year warranty.. Your Owners manual should describe the Breathers & fill plugs w/pics..

Long time 1 year of use & ownership & not realizing this.. PS: Check the engine oil before each use,..


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BuddyLA

7394 said:
My 2021 Scag Liberty has none either, I noticed that prior to purchase last year.. Questioned my Dealer, he said it was new design to avoid possible plumbing leaks.. (whatever). Then I called Hydro-Gear & they confirmed the same.

Mine runs super. And I have easy access big holes thru the floor. I get to 50+ hours, I will be servicing my HG 2800s' here to get her off to good start.. Combo of both will still till take 1 gallon & about 1/3 to 1/2 qt.. Plenty of oil. Definitely serviceable & require it being done @ proper intervals.

And having the "breather" on top of each unit shows it was not meant for external reservoirs.. My Top fill port & side fluid level port are easily accessible... Don't worry, be happy.

I have 5 year warranty.. Your Owners manual should describe the Breathers & fill plugs w/pics..

Long time 1 year of use & ownership & not realizing this.. PS: Check the engine oil before each use,..
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BuddyLA

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Good Luck to you!


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Gil

Gil

MParr said:
Apparently, Bad Boy has decided not to add fluid reservoirs and plumbing for their updated Maverick. You can certainly add them if you like. Look at the 2022 Maverick parts list. There ARE NO RESERVOIRS on the Maverick.
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Purchased 2021 Elite with Kawasaki engine. It has no reservoirs for hydraulics, but they are to be serviced with oil and filter changes as per owners manual. Learned after purchase that an "after market reservoir kit" is available for approximately $150. It has two tanks, one for each side. I prefer to easily see the "full/add" marks, thus I purchased and installed. But told Bad Boy and the dealer that it should have been part of the original package. Guess I am of the old school,as I don't like sealed systems in most cases. Had too many failed bearing,etc on "sealed systems" and being told it was an improvement. ????
Regards, Gil


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Rivets

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Bigrfrado

Gil said:
Purchased 2021 Elite with Kawasaki engine. It has no reservoirs for hydraulics, but they are to be serviced with oil and filter changes as per owners manual. Learned after purchase that an "after market reservoir kit" is available for approximately $150. It has two tanks, one for each side. I prefer to easily see the "full/add" marks, thus I purchased and installed. But told Bad Boy and the dealer that it should have been part of the original package. Guess I am of the old school,as I don't like sealed systems in most cases. Had too many failed bearing,etc on "sealed systems" and being told it was an improvement. ????
Regards, Gil
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Where did you get the kit? I am nearing the 50 hour mark on my Bad Boy and would like to add the kit when I change the hydro oil. I too am old school and usually skeptical about "improvements" that remove necessary parts.


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Tiger Small Engine

Tiger Small Engine

Bigrfrado said:
Where did you get the kit? I am nearing the 50 hour mark on my Bad Boy and would like to add the kit when I change the hydro oil. I too am old school and usually skeptical about "improvements" that remove necessary parts.
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Oil can be extracted through breather tube on these transaxles. You cannot usually get it all, but it helps. Otherwise, removing unit from mower, and draining it is a lot of work. Many of these are considered “non-serviceable.”


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7394

7394

The 2800 HG Units & up are fully servicable w/oil filter on each motor.. Nothing sealed about these.

Now the EZ 2100 & 2200 are the sealed units.


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lugbolt

They are serviceable.

They made "improvements", makes maintenance a little "easier", so they say. For a homeowner, harder but we won't go there. Just like some of the late model 10 speed transmissions with no way to check the oil level. If it ain't leaking, don't screw with it is what they tell us.

Improvements in how long it takes and how much less $$ they spend on materials at the manufacturing level. Less hoses less pipe/tube/hose, less time purging after it's actually built/tested, etc.


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