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Stihl FS200 keeps stalling, running erractic

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bill.g

An older brushcutter/trimmer that kept stalling out last year. Dismantled the carb & cleaned with ultrasonic & that did the trick.
When using this year all was good but just recently it has started to run erratic & die.
Any ideas here? I can't see how it could be the carb again, I always mix premium grade fuel. I will check the muffler, but after that I'm at wits end.
Thanks.


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EngineMan

EngineMan

What about the crankcase seals.....


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bill.g

What about the crankcase seals.....

well, it may be, but just how does one check that?


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EngineMan

EngineMan

By doing a leak down test.


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bill.g

By doing a leak down test.


Ok...I’m well aquainted on how to do thaton autos & motorcycles, but not on a 2 stroke. Care to explainin detail, please & thanks.?


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EngineMan

EngineMan

The crankcase can be checked thoroughly for leaks with the carburetor and crankcase tester and the vacuum pump, which will be in the service manual for that machine.


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bertsmobile1

Lots of videos out there but Joe pace ( ex Husqvarna Service School ) probably has the best.
https://www.youtube.com/user/PACEequipment
If nothing else note the order he tests things, starts with the tank & cap then goes to the crank and finally looks at the carb.
Way too many just rip the carb off and end up doing more damage to the carb that was not a problem in the first place.

While symptoms can suggest where a problem might be, a systematic approach, suspecting everything till proved good works wonders.

A hand held needs to run with a pressurised fuel tank.
Leaking tanks are far more common than clogged carbs or buggered diaphragms.
Further more if a carb is dissasembled the gaskets should always be replaced as when new they are soft & compliant so they make a good seal.
Once they have been on for a while , they compress and go hard


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The Specialist

An older brushcutter/trimmer that kept stalling out last year. Dismantled the carb & cleaned with ultrasonic & that did the trick.
When using this year all was good but just recently it has started to run erratic & die.
Any ideas here? I can't see how it could be the carb again, I always mix premium grade fuel. I will check the muffler, but after that I'm at wits end.
Thanks.

The most common thing missed is the fuel filter. It is probably blocked. Get a new fuel filter. Part number 0000 350 3502. When you get the old one out and put in the new one, try and blow into your old fuel filter. I am sure that you will find that it is blocked. I do agree with the other guy on here when he states that it is a pressurized system. It is from the Gas Cap to the spark plug. The carb is just a pressure control device. If the fuel filter is blocked, fuel is not getting through to the carb.

The one thing to check before you do anything, remove the exhaust and look for score marks on the piston. If you have "barcodes" on the piston, the engine is blown and needs to be rebuilt.


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bertsmobile1

The most common thing missed is the fuel filter. It is probably blocked. Get a new fuel filter. Part number 0000 350 3502. When you get the old one out and put in the new one, try and blow into your old fuel filter. I am sure that you will find that it is blocked. I do agree with the other guy on here when he states that it is a pressurized system. It is from the Gas Cap to the spark plug. The carb is just a pressure control device. If the fuel filter is blocked, fuel is not getting through to the carb.

The one thing to check before you do anything, remove the exhaust and look for score marks on the piston. If you have "barcodes" on the piston, the engine is blown and needs to be rebuilt.

Prepare yourself for the onslaught.
Very few seem to understand that the fuel system is pressurised and seem to think that the fuel pump is doing all the work moving fuel around.
I copped a lot of flack the first time I was silly enough to state it.


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Boobala

Boobala

Bill, don't forget to check the fuel hose from the tank filter to outlet "grommet" or "connector" sometimes an oversight...... my FS-90 drove me crazy because mine was collapsed, something I overlooked.


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upupandaway

upupandaway

I use the same "trick" that ac repair, automotive, etc use to find the pressure leak and mix some soap in water and with it running, spray where people here have posted- grommets, exposed hose, etc and look for bubbles to find your leak.
For the shaft seals, i just look for dirt sticking around this seal. Alot of dirt= leaking seal but personally only serious leak if u see actual gas\oil running from the seal. alot of dirt is slow enough leak but still hold pressure.
My $.02


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