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Stihl backpack blower not starting

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xjpelham

My 17 year old Still BR340 blower has me stumped. Always worked perfectly although it’s been getting harder to start over the past couple seasons and finally gave up the ghost this year. I went through the checklist, fresh gas mix, good compression (130 psi), good spark, new fuel filter, air filter and spark plug. Spark arrester clean as a whistle. Cleaned out and rebuilt the carburetor twice. Still nothing. I even went ahead and got a new ignition coil and an aftermarket carburetor. Getting fuel into chamber as spark plug gets wet. No luck starting though. Choke on, 2 or three pulls, choke off and it still doesn’t want to pop off. Thumb on/off switch working fine according to my multimeter.

Any suggestions are welcome as I don’t know where to go from here.

Thanks


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StarTech

StarTech

You may have a sheared flywheel key. But getting to it to even check is a major undertaking as the fan side must be disassemble.


#3

Fish

Fish

You might pull the muffler and check for excess carbon blocking the exhaust.


#4

Fish

Fish

Also, you might have it badly flooded. Dump out all of the fuel and keep trying to start it with the tank empty, it may just start up after a while and burn off that excess fuel.


#5

StarTech

StarTech

Good points especially on being flooded.


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xjpelham

Thank you StarTech, you were exactly right about the flywheel key.

It took me a while but I finally got it all apart. Looks like the woodruff key is sheared off and now flush with the crankshaft. Would you know how I can get this little piece out without damaging the crankshaft? I'm guessing I can still use the old flywheel as it doesn't look damaged.

Thanks again for your quick reply. It really helped me diagnose the problem.

Great forum.


#7

StarTech

StarTech

Usually you can take a pin punch and hammer and tap it down on end and the other will roll up so you can pull it on those Woodruff keys. They are moon shaped keys. Just remember when install the flywheel to torque the M8-1 nut to 18.5 ft/lbs. Service manual has it at 25Nm (18.439 ft/lbs).


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xjpelham

You are right again StarTech. I used a centerpunch and a few taps later the broken key is out. A local dealer has one in stock. A $1.00 part!

Thanks for the torque specs. Very helpful.


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slomo

I was rooting for some dead engine case seals. Glad to hear it's running again.

slomo


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bertsmobile1

Before you put the key in , take a fine file to the edges of the key slot
Usually a sheared key will raise a little burr that will prevent the taper locking so the next time you try & start it the key will shear again.
It is also prudent to do the same with the flywheel.
Don't over do it you are not trying to cut a champhur on the edges, just knock off the burs.
One step further is to use some Brasso as a lapping paste & lap the flywheel to the shaft


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xjpelham

Thanks. I will certainly use the file. I've learned more in the past two weeks chasing this problem around than I have in the 17 years of owning this blower.

All very helpful comments in this forum.


#12

StarTech

StarTech

Thanks. I will certainly use the file. I've learned more in the past two weeks chasing this problem around than I have in the 17 years of owning this blower.

All very helpful comments in this forum.
Like why we charge so much to repair problems. I guess it because of how we must disassembly things to get to problems. I had customers to watch me at times; unless, another tech and they wonder how can I be so fast at it and remember where everything goes. I had few customer to say oh they just re-assemble their equipment after the parts came in since was taking me longer than they like as I had others ahead of them to only realize they were way over their heads and let me complete the work. Nothing like handing the customer their handheld in a box disassembled.

On this blower the flywheel is in the fan box but the new version Stihl changed to a dog bone flywheel on the recoil side. Way easier to check and replace. But that is a complete different engine design.

Like anything it take time and lots patience. This hot weather is causing me to lose some my mine lately. I was about to end mine yesterday on removing two king pins on a TB Horse tiller. It took 3 hrs to get them out as other things had to remove before I could the torch to where I needed to heat. And it still nearly 30 min per pin. I was lucky that my pin driver made it through the last pin before it failed. Now I got buy a new set of pin driver since I can only them in a set. Boy 40 yrs of rust is a pain.


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xjpelham

Just want to close out this thread. The blower is running perfectly again. Better than new in fact. Starts on the first pull. I filed the burrs off the edge of the key slot and the new woodruff key fit with no issues.

Thanks to everyone for your expert advice.


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bertsmobile1

Thanks for the feed back
Always good to close a thread properly
Even better when it is a success


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