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So much for watching the Stupid Bowl
#1
smhardesty
smhardesty
I have pretty much stopped watching any and all college and pro sports. One of the few things I WAS going to watch was the Super Bowl. After seeing what the headlines are, I guess I'll not bother to watch it. The link below is just one of several I ran into while trying to get the latest on what to expect in the game. They are no longer concerned with covering real, meaningful news about the game or the teams. All they are concerned with is political B.S. Where are the well conceived, expertly written, thought provoking, articles about how each quarterback fares against defenses similar to their opposition in the Super Bowl? Where are the articles detailing how each defense should approach defending against each quarterback? I guess they can't be concerned with such trivial matters when they get to spout off about RACE. Oh, my God, YES! By all means bring race into things. How would we survive if we didn't realize the mind blowing, earth shattering, historical event of two BLACK quarterbacks facing each other. That is SO very important to the game.
Anybody got a link to a small engine magazine I can subscribe to? I'm pretty sure I'll need something to read as opposed to watching a sporting event where the announcer and color commentator will be constantly spewing forth all sorts of BLACK trivia and news. Sports is NOT the place for political B.S. PERIOD.
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not anti-black. I'm anti-STUPID. Like my signature says, I'm just old and tired of the nonsense. Why couldn't they simply have a Super Bowl without all the race crap? When I do watch a sporting event, all I see are athletes. I don't break it down to white versus black. It's a shame there are so many out there that are more concerned with race politics instead of sports.
On the bright side, refusing to watch all sports will provide me with more time to spend working on small engines and reading books. LOL!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ack-quarterbacks-puts-focus-on-coaches-owners
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Anybody got a link to a small engine magazine I can subscribe to? I'm pretty sure I'll need something to read as opposed to watching a sporting event where the announcer and color commentator will be constantly spewing forth all sorts of BLACK trivia and news. Sports is NOT the place for political B.S. PERIOD.
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not anti-black. I'm anti-STUPID. Like my signature says, I'm just old and tired of the nonsense. Why couldn't they simply have a Super Bowl without all the race crap? When I do watch a sporting event, all I see are athletes. I don't break it down to white versus black. It's a shame there are so many out there that are more concerned with race politics instead of sports.
On the bright side, refusing to watch all sports will provide me with more time to spend working on small engines and reading books. LOL!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ack-quarterbacks-puts-focus-on-coaches-owners
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#2
Hammermechanicman
Hammermechanicman
Bloomberg. What would you expect?
#3
smhardesty
smhardesty
Yeah, I know, but it's not just there. The reason I was put off was because it seems to be THE NEWS on most sporting websites and most news websites. It's not just Bloomberg. Like these:
https://www.nfl.com/news/patrick-ma...ze-significance-of-first-super-bowl-meeting-b
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/03/spor...k-quarterbacks-super-bowl-spt-intl/index.html
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/01/30/super-bowl-57-two-black-starting-quarterbacks-youngest-starters
I realize it's getting very difficult to find ANY website or TV channel that offers unbiased news and even fewer that would offer a conservative viewpoint. Maybe that's part of the reason this irked me as much as it did. I'm just tired of being blasted with political B.S. when I try to watch any sports event. Back when Jon Miller and Joe Morgan announced Sunday night baseball on ESPN, Morgan was constantly rattling on and on about how more blacks are needed in baseball. It happened EVERY Sunday night and Miller did nothing more than agree with whatever Morgan spewed forth. Then, more recently, the whole BLM thing and the kneeling during the National Anthem have just been way too much for me. Again, my signature says it all, "I'm just old and tired of the nonsense".
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https://www.nfl.com/news/patrick-ma...ze-significance-of-first-super-bowl-meeting-b
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/03/spor...k-quarterbacks-super-bowl-spt-intl/index.html
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/01/30/super-bowl-57-two-black-starting-quarterbacks-youngest-starters
I realize it's getting very difficult to find ANY website or TV channel that offers unbiased news and even fewer that would offer a conservative viewpoint. Maybe that's part of the reason this irked me as much as it did. I'm just tired of being blasted with political B.S. when I try to watch any sports event. Back when Jon Miller and Joe Morgan announced Sunday night baseball on ESPN, Morgan was constantly rattling on and on about how more blacks are needed in baseball. It happened EVERY Sunday night and Miller did nothing more than agree with whatever Morgan spewed forth. Then, more recently, the whole BLM thing and the kneeling during the National Anthem have just been way too much for me. Again, my signature says it all, "I'm just old and tired of the nonsense".
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#4
Glades Cat
Glades Cat
Don’t take the World Serious.
Oh wait, that’s Baseball.
Yeah, most sports aren’t what they were years ago. They are tinged with stuff that doesn’t pertain to the game. They have become platforms for ulterior messages from both the athletes and promoters.
Oh wait, that’s Baseball.
Yeah, most sports aren’t what they were years ago. They are tinged with stuff that doesn’t pertain to the game. They have become platforms for ulterior messages from both the athletes and promoters.
#5
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
The instant you pay people to play "sport" it ceases to be a sport & becomes an entertainment .
And this applies to all sports
I used to watch junior Union matches at the local fields on my way home from the farmers markets Saturday afternoons once a month.
A far better game than anything at a pay to see field
I did watch some cricket over christmass and every umpire's decision was refferred to the video refferee
So the second night I ran a timer , these took better than a 1/2 hour of the 3 hour game .
Two reasons for this
1) for the TV audience, it builds up the suspense , like the quiz show host that takes a full minute to tell the contestant they got the answer right or wrong
2) because millions hang on every decision , the ref is scared to make a wrong decision
This breaks up the continuity of the game and frankly makes it boring and teaches the kids to ignore what the ref says and believe what the computer says and only the absolute right decision is acceptable
What ever happened to the "character building aspect of accepting the ref's decision is final, right or wrong
And this applies to all sports
I used to watch junior Union matches at the local fields on my way home from the farmers markets Saturday afternoons once a month.
A far better game than anything at a pay to see field
I did watch some cricket over christmass and every umpire's decision was refferred to the video refferee
So the second night I ran a timer , these took better than a 1/2 hour of the 3 hour game .
Two reasons for this
1) for the TV audience, it builds up the suspense , like the quiz show host that takes a full minute to tell the contestant they got the answer right or wrong
2) because millions hang on every decision , the ref is scared to make a wrong decision
This breaks up the continuity of the game and frankly makes it boring and teaches the kids to ignore what the ref says and believe what the computer says and only the absolute right decision is acceptable
What ever happened to the "character building aspect of accepting the ref's decision is final, right or wrong
#6
smhardesty
smhardesty
Yep, I agree with both of you guys. It's truly sad that no one is allowed to just enjoy a sporting event anymore. It's far too important to promote some cause or to relay a political agenda to unsuspecting people. Years ago, before they started all this crap, I would sit down and watch baseball, basketball, and football games and never once think about what color a player was or what political party they belonged to. The players played the game, and the announcers never commented on race, color, creed, religion, or national origin. Fast forward to the present where the various causes or political agendas begin with the pregame warmups and continue right through the end of the post game interviews. It's just too much for me.
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#7
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
The bit that gets me is how pervasive gambeling has become and how it has changed things like commentry.
just about every thing now is presented as "the odds" rather than the chance
Things like "10:1 and on" he will not kick this penalty from this angle .
A teacher friend tells me that kindergarden kids that barely understand numbers understand betting odds
We are becoming a very sick ( & greedy ) society to the point that you can not watch a game of any sort without having a bet on it and to make matters worse, when you have a bet on anything other than the final outcome you do not actually follow the game you are just watching to see if you win
just about every thing now is presented as "the odds" rather than the chance
Things like "10:1 and on" he will not kick this penalty from this angle .
A teacher friend tells me that kindergarden kids that barely understand numbers understand betting odds
We are becoming a very sick ( & greedy ) society to the point that you can not watch a game of any sort without having a bet on it and to make matters worse, when you have a bet on anything other than the final outcome you do not actually follow the game you are just watching to see if you win
#8
smhardesty
We all know that there are people gambling away more money that they can truly afford to lose and we're seeing the start of a terrible situation in this country. We have been in a couple of the area restaurants that now have the video gaming machines and we see people that we KNOW are on welfare pumping money in these things all night long. We are also aware of at least two people in our area that have gambled away tens of thousands of dollars and have ended up filing for bankruptcy and have lost their homes and their jobs. And yet, local, state, and federal agencies do NOTHING to curb this problem. It's almost as if they WANT people to lose everything.
I'd say, that on average, I see a MINIMUM of 12 to 15 gambling commercials on TV when I watch at night. I watch a lot of on demand movies on different channels that are free, but use commercials for revenue. There is usually at least one gambling ad at every commercial break. I see that as an attempt to drain the pockets of the average Joe on the street. It's really sad.
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smhardesty
Boy, you sure hit that nail on the head. It's not just television and sports, either. My wife and I have recently been making comments about just how many places in our little town that now offer video gaming and slot machines. We're a little burg of only 9,000 people and there are at least 15 places in town that have these machines. Add in the lottery tickets and scratch off tickets and all the online gambling places and it begins to boggle the mind.The bit that gets me is how pervasive gambeling has become and how it has changed things like commentry.
just about every thing now is presented as "the odds" rather than the chance
Things like "10:1 and on" he will not kick this penalty from this angle .
A teacher friend tells me that kindergarden kids that barely understand numbers understand betting odds
We are becoming a very sick ( & greedy ) society to the point that you can not watch a game of any sort without having a bet on it and to make matters worse, when you have a bet on anything other than the final outcome you do not actually follow the game you are just watching to see if you win
We all know that there are people gambling away more money that they can truly afford to lose and we're seeing the start of a terrible situation in this country. We have been in a couple of the area restaurants that now have the video gaming machines and we see people that we KNOW are on welfare pumping money in these things all night long. We are also aware of at least two people in our area that have gambled away tens of thousands of dollars and have ended up filing for bankruptcy and have lost their homes and their jobs. And yet, local, state, and federal agencies do NOTHING to curb this problem. It's almost as if they WANT people to lose everything.
I'd say, that on average, I see a MINIMUM of 12 to 15 gambling commercials on TV when I watch at night. I watch a lot of on demand movies on different channels that are free, but use commercials for revenue. There is usually at least one gambling ad at every commercial break. I see that as an attempt to drain the pockets of the average Joe on the street. It's really sad.
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#9
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
You are posting to some one in the gambleing capital of the world.
Australia has 1/2 of the poker ( slot ) machines that were ever made and 2 Australian ( sort of ) companies make most of them.
IT is about the only thing that is made in Australia .
Right now one state has just introduced cashless poker machines to try & curb the financial danger of machine addiction.
The new machines will not take cash, just debit it from your betting card.
The cards have a preset limit on how much can be withdrawn in any one day + week + month + year and you have to wait a full week to change these limits up while down limits will be instant .
Another State is doing similar but their cards also have a time limit so you have to leave the machine for 15 minutes each hour .
There are 35,000,000 people in OZ
Poker machines took $ 11,500,000,000 in the 21/22 financial year which is significant because all of this was from local residents due to covid lock downs, not gambling tourists as the big casino operators used to lie about .
The total losses on legal gambleing ( excluding things like on line sports betting ) last year was $25,000,000,000
It is estimated that around the same amount gets lost on the web based betting apps as they do not have to report their financials unless they are Australian tax paying ( or at lest reporting ) entities but most are not because they are registered in tax havens .
Sport betting advertising last year was estimated at $ 2,000,000,000 and that does not include sponsorship of teams & codes .
So the average Aussie loose around $ 6,000 ( assuming that under 12's don't gamble ) yet they will all tell you that they are burdened by excessive amounts of tax ( Aust has the 2nd lowest rates of total tax in the world as there is no inheritance tax or death duties )
Australia has 1/2 of the poker ( slot ) machines that were ever made and 2 Australian ( sort of ) companies make most of them.
IT is about the only thing that is made in Australia .
Right now one state has just introduced cashless poker machines to try & curb the financial danger of machine addiction.
The new machines will not take cash, just debit it from your betting card.
The cards have a preset limit on how much can be withdrawn in any one day + week + month + year and you have to wait a full week to change these limits up while down limits will be instant .
Another State is doing similar but their cards also have a time limit so you have to leave the machine for 15 minutes each hour .
There are 35,000,000 people in OZ
Poker machines took $ 11,500,000,000 in the 21/22 financial year which is significant because all of this was from local residents due to covid lock downs, not gambling tourists as the big casino operators used to lie about .
The total losses on legal gambleing ( excluding things like on line sports betting ) last year was $25,000,000,000
It is estimated that around the same amount gets lost on the web based betting apps as they do not have to report their financials unless they are Australian tax paying ( or at lest reporting ) entities but most are not because they are registered in tax havens .
Sport betting advertising last year was estimated at $ 2,000,000,000 and that does not include sponsorship of teams & codes .
So the average Aussie loose around $ 6,000 ( assuming that under 12's don't gamble ) yet they will all tell you that they are burdened by excessive amounts of tax ( Aust has the 2nd lowest rates of total tax in the world as there is no inheritance tax or death duties )
#10
Glades Cat
Glades Cat
I think I have a gambling phobia. I can’t stand the thought of putting my hard-earned money in a machine or on a table and put it at the mercy of chance. The couple of times I have stepped into a local casino was for a concert or to eat at one of the restaurants. Never been to Vegas.
#11
smhardesty
smhardesty
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Bert, I never realized gambling was such a big issue down under. It looks like you guys actually have a bigger problem than here. It's a shame that gambling has become such an issue anywhere. One of the things that really sets me off is that elected officials in damned near every state in the US of A rattle on and on about how gambling proceeds from state run gambling "gimmicks" are being used to improve schools and the country's crumbling infrastructure. Every time I hear or see some idiotic politician saying anything similar to that, the only thing that goes through my mind is that it is painfully obvious that our elected officials think that forcing tens of thousand of citizens into bankruptcy and causing marriages to crumble is OK as long as they raise money to build a new bridge. That's exactly what the are doing and I defy anyone of them to prove me wrong.
My wife and I went to a riverboat for one of our anniversaries. I have no idea which anniversary. We stayed for three days and two nights in that city. We got all fired up and hit the boat the first night there. We walked around and watched other people for quite a while. I'm not sure exactly how many trips around the place we made, but after about an hour to an hour and a half, we decided we needed to leave. I had gotten $50 in chips when we went in. I still had all $50 in chips when we decided to leave. As we were headed out, we went right by a row of slot machines. I put $10 in one of the machines and played 50 cents at a time. Sure, I won a couple of times, but only got $2 or $3 back. It took a grand total of about 5 minutes to watch ten bucks disappear. We both would rather walk around and enjoy the sites instead of sitting in a noisy casino throwing away good money.
About the only "gambling" I ever liked to do was nickel/dime poker with friends. We placed a few different "rules" on the game to ensure nobody ever got hurt financially. Our games were about being with friends, enjoying a little friendly competition, and having a couple of beers. To me, that is a heck of a lot more fun that throwing a few hundred dollars into a machine that is programmed to make the owners profit. LOL!
And I've never been to Vegas and will never go to Vegas. That's not for me.
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Bert, I never realized gambling was such a big issue down under. It looks like you guys actually have a bigger problem than here. It's a shame that gambling has become such an issue anywhere. One of the things that really sets me off is that elected officials in damned near every state in the US of A rattle on and on about how gambling proceeds from state run gambling "gimmicks" are being used to improve schools and the country's crumbling infrastructure. Every time I hear or see some idiotic politician saying anything similar to that, the only thing that goes through my mind is that it is painfully obvious that our elected officials think that forcing tens of thousand of citizens into bankruptcy and causing marriages to crumble is OK as long as they raise money to build a new bridge. That's exactly what the are doing and I defy anyone of them to prove me wrong.
I guess I have a little of that phobia myself. I have watched people on these machines and it just boggles my pea brain. There is absolutely NO skill involved with these things. You just shove a few ten or twenty dollar bills in the thing and push a button. Lights go off, music plays, the little wheels spin, and nothing happens, it was a loser. Then, they press that button again and the process repeats. They sit there and do it over, and over, and over.I think I have a gambling phobia. I can’t stand the thought of putting my hard-earned money in a machine or on a table and put it at the mercy of chance. The couple of times I have stepped into a local casino was for a concert or to eat at one of the restaurants. Never been to Vegas.
My wife and I went to a riverboat for one of our anniversaries. I have no idea which anniversary. We stayed for three days and two nights in that city. We got all fired up and hit the boat the first night there. We walked around and watched other people for quite a while. I'm not sure exactly how many trips around the place we made, but after about an hour to an hour and a half, we decided we needed to leave. I had gotten $50 in chips when we went in. I still had all $50 in chips when we decided to leave. As we were headed out, we went right by a row of slot machines. I put $10 in one of the machines and played 50 cents at a time. Sure, I won a couple of times, but only got $2 or $3 back. It took a grand total of about 5 minutes to watch ten bucks disappear. We both would rather walk around and enjoy the sites instead of sitting in a noisy casino throwing away good money.
About the only "gambling" I ever liked to do was nickel/dime poker with friends. We placed a few different "rules" on the game to ensure nobody ever got hurt financially. Our games were about being with friends, enjoying a little friendly competition, and having a couple of beers. To me, that is a heck of a lot more fun that throwing a few hundred dollars into a machine that is programmed to make the owners profit. LOL!
And I've never been to Vegas and will never go to Vegas. That's not for me.
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#12
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bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
When i was a youngster my uncle had access to a company box at the major race course
He was an A-hole but he taught me something that day
From the box we could see the main enterance, the members car park & the bookies car park
His line was "look at what the bookies arrive in ( expensive imported cars ) and look at what the punters arrive in ( on foot & busses ) , now guess which one makes the most money "
Then in school we learned probability and back then schools were allowed to do things like calculate the chances of winning at any type of gambeling.
So 2 up was 50:50 , Black jack was 30:1 and anything else was in the 1000's to millions .
We also played pretend pools ( football betting ) & Lottto which was just being introduced .
Over the year not a single person in the class of 40 came out ahead.
We also did pretend share trading and around 20% of the class came out ahead at the end of the year.
Enough to convince this little black duck that the "dream" we got sold would end up a nightmare for most .
We also did pretend investing in government bonds and Fx trading and all of them were comparred to simple bank saving .
The bank book won hands down for most of us .
Those of us who did the final 2 years of high school & did commerce / economics continued with the pretend investing / gambling / saving .
The ones that came out best was shares but only if they were in a reinvestment scheme , second was the government bonds & third was the plain bank book savings.
All of the gambling showed massive losses over the 3 years including the Fx trading & the futures trading .
A lesson well learned .
I lived in a social security neighbourhood for 12 years and it would kill me to see the pensioners coming into the newsagent with their pension cheques and spending 1/2 ( or more ) of it on various forms of gambling, all daydreaming about what they would do with their winnings .
He was an A-hole but he taught me something that day
From the box we could see the main enterance, the members car park & the bookies car park
His line was "look at what the bookies arrive in ( expensive imported cars ) and look at what the punters arrive in ( on foot & busses ) , now guess which one makes the most money "
Then in school we learned probability and back then schools were allowed to do things like calculate the chances of winning at any type of gambeling.
So 2 up was 50:50 , Black jack was 30:1 and anything else was in the 1000's to millions .
We also played pretend pools ( football betting ) & Lottto which was just being introduced .
Over the year not a single person in the class of 40 came out ahead.
We also did pretend share trading and around 20% of the class came out ahead at the end of the year.
Enough to convince this little black duck that the "dream" we got sold would end up a nightmare for most .
We also did pretend investing in government bonds and Fx trading and all of them were comparred to simple bank saving .
The bank book won hands down for most of us .
Those of us who did the final 2 years of high school & did commerce / economics continued with the pretend investing / gambling / saving .
The ones that came out best was shares but only if they were in a reinvestment scheme , second was the government bonds & third was the plain bank book savings.
All of the gambling showed massive losses over the 3 years including the Fx trading & the futures trading .
A lesson well learned .
I lived in a social security neighbourhood for 12 years and it would kill me to see the pensioners coming into the newsagent with their pension cheques and spending 1/2 ( or more ) of it on various forms of gambling, all daydreaming about what they would do with their winnings .
#13
smhardesty
smhardesty
Yep, you got it. Many years ago a man much older and wiser than I told me the same thing you are talking about. He told me to just look at the casinos, the various acts that are free, the free meals and free drinks, and what the owners and managers of such places drove and what they wore. Then he told me they didn't get all of that by letting the average Joe win on a regular basis. Sure, every once in a while some joker hits it big, but what you never see or hear is just how many people lost their butts before that joker hit it big. Gambling is not a way to get rich, for sure. I still hate seeing people in my little town shoving 20 dollar bills into these video games. One woman always comes to mind when I think about the rip off machines. She's a bit older than I am and she has a very pronounced learning disability of some sorts. On the 3rd of every month (when Social Security checks hit the bank) you'll see her riding her bicycle from location to location where the games are. She stops at every one of them and shoves money into them. She almost always goes broke before she manages to make it to all the places in town. Then she is broke for another month and has to depend on her sister and other handouts. It's damned sad.
#14
7394
7394
No interest in it anymore.
#15
shadetree#1
shadetree#1
Seen on news this AM that lowest priced Stupid Bowls ticket is around $3200.
#16
Hammermechanicman
Hammermechanicman
Gee. I will have a perfect seat to watch and it will cost me nothing and the beer will be cheap and my favorite brand. I will get close in VIP parking too.Seen on news this AM that lowest priced Stupid Bowls ticket is around $3200.
#17
smhardesty
smhardesty
Yep. You guys have it just the way I do. I wouldn't pay $320 for a ticket to ANY pro sporting event. My living room is always at my preferred temperature and I can hit pause, rewind, and fast forward to suit myself.
#18
7394
7394
I just plain quit watching the games.. @ $3,200 for 1 ticket is insane.
#20
shadetree#1
shadetree#1
Watching from my living room I can change the channel fast when the STUPIC BOWL half time show starts. I would rather be watching oil base paint dry on a cold day than watch them half time clowns try to perform. What a joke.
#21
7394
7394
LOL................
#22
PTmowerMech
PTmowerMech
#23
PTmowerMech
The last NFL game I went to was the Cowboys and Raiders, at the old Texas stadium. I think it was around 1997. I won the tickets from the local car dealership. It was just a pre season game. But by half time, I wished I was sitting in my living room, in the A/C, just a few feet from the fridge & snacks and the very unpopulated restrooms.
PTmowerMech
Gee. I will have a perfect seat to watch and it will cost me nothing and the beer will be cheap and my favorite brand. I will get close in VIP parking too.
The last NFL game I went to was the Cowboys and Raiders, at the old Texas stadium. I think it was around 1997. I won the tickets from the local car dealership. It was just a pre season game. But by half time, I wished I was sitting in my living room, in the A/C, just a few feet from the fridge & snacks and the very unpopulated restrooms.
#24
4getgto
4getgto
For all us (me) Eagles fans on here....
#25
R
RayMcD
R
RayMcD
Neanderthals watch a bunch of sweaty dudes playing ball, now put a team of good looking Skirts out here bouncing around and I'll watch. In the mean time they can find some other way to make a living.... JMHO,, Cheers. r
#26
smhardesty
Super Bowl Sunday was a day we looked forward to. My wife would whip up a feast fit for a king, but it was all finger foods and munchies, not a meal. She'd have it planned so that the food was ready right before halftime. I'd pause the TV, we'd all fill out plates, then we'd eat during halftime and enjoy the show, Anymore, I can't even be in the same house where a stupid halftime show is being shown. The halftime shows are a complete and total waste of time now, as is the game, for that matter.
Today, there will be no game on in my house. I'm done with it. Instead, we'll be having a nice supper, served at our normal eating time.
smhardesty
My wife and I used to really look forward to the commercials. That was before all the advertisers decide to air nothing but politically charged ads. Once upon a time, a few days before the Super Bowl aired, there was a show on the tube called something like, "The Best Super Bowl Commercials Ever", or something similar. It was a chance to laugh at all those clever commercials from the past, in anticipation of what new and clever commercials were to be shown during the game. Now, they just bombard you with crap about one political party or the other, Covid B.S., or other such political garbage.
Super Bowl Sunday was a day we looked forward to. My wife would whip up a feast fit for a king, but it was all finger foods and munchies, not a meal. She'd have it planned so that the food was ready right before halftime. I'd pause the TV, we'd all fill out plates, then we'd eat during halftime and enjoy the show, Anymore, I can't even be in the same house where a stupid halftime show is being shown. The halftime shows are a complete and total waste of time now, as is the game, for that matter.
Today, there will be no game on in my house. I'm done with it. Instead, we'll be having a nice supper, served at our normal eating time.
#27
PTmowerMech
Lingerie football didn't go over so well.
PTmowerMech
Neanderthals watch a bunch of sweaty dudes playing ball, now put a team of good looking Skirts out here bouncing around and I'll watch. In the mean time they can find some other way to make a living.... JMHO,, Cheers. r
Lingerie football didn't go over so well.
#28
7394
7394
Yea, now ur talking..now put a team of good looking Skirts out here bouncing around and I'll watch. I
#29
shadetree#1
shadetree#1
I would rather be watching oil base paint dry on a cold day than watch them half time clowns try to perform. What a joke.
It happened again. Bunch of clowns jumping around at half time.
Barnum and Bailey circus would have rejected all them clowns.
Had to get out and watch the oil base paint dry again.
It happened again. Bunch of clowns jumping around at half time.
Barnum and Bailey circus would have rejected all them clowns.
Had to get out and watch the oil base paint dry again.
#30
PTmowerMech
PTmowerMech
The game was a real nail biter though, wasn't it? Best superbowl I've watched in a long time.
#31
smhardesty
smhardesty
I have no idea what happened in the game. Are you being facetious or was it really a good game? Not that I'd have watched or will ever again watch. The only thing I know is that apparently they were kneeling during the National Anthem, or at the halftime show, or both, or something. I had an email about that, but never even bothered to go to the article. That's how little I care about the whole mess.The game was a real nail biter though, wasn't it? Best superbowl I've watched in a long time.
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Hammermechanicman
Hammermechanicman
I enjoyed it. I have learned to just ignore the racial and woke stuff. Most of the commercials were just juvenile and stupid and just plain skipped watching the halftime crap. I just focus on the game. I coached peewee for 7 years and one of my sons played Div 1 college ball. I enjoy a good game and just ignore the other garbage. Life's too short.The game was a real nail biter though, wasn't it? Best superbowl I've watched in a long time.
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smhardesty
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smhardesty
We are located in an area that has two different independent league baseball teams, located about equal distances form our home. The two teams are in different leagues, so they don't face one another or any of the same opponents. Quite few years ago we attended our first independent league game and have gone to several since then. I no longer watch any of the NBA or NFL because of all the political crap involved. I told my wife recently that I might very well consider not watching MLB and instead go to several of the two teams' games. At least there you get to see talented individuals that are playing the game because they WANT to and are dedicated to the game, itself. Money doesn't drive these young men. The play because they love the game. I also found out recently that both teams have radio stations that carry all their games. Might be worth listening to instead of any of the MLB games.I enjoyed it. I have learned to just ignore the racial and woke stuff. Most of the commercials were just juvenile and stupid and just plain skipped watching the halftime crap. I just focus on the game. I coached peewee for 7 years and one of my sons played Div 1 college ball. I enjoy a good game and just ignore the other garbage. Life's too short.
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Bob372
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Bob372
What's Cricket???The instant you pay people to play "sport" it ceases to be a sport & becomes an entertainment .
And this applies to all sports
I used to watch junior Union matches at the local fields on my way home from the farmers markets Saturday afternoons once a month.
A far better game than anything at a pay to see field
I did watch some cricket over christmass and every umpire's decision was refferred to the video refferee
So the second night I ran a timer , these took better than a 1/2 hour of the 3 hour game .
Two reasons for this
1) for the TV audience, it builds up the suspense , like the quiz show host that takes a full minute to tell the contestant they got the answer right or wrong
2) because millions hang on every decision , the ref is scared to make a wrong decision
This breaks up the continuity of the game and frankly makes it boring and teaches the kids to ignore what the ref says and believe what the computer says and only the absolute right decision is acceptable
What ever happened to the "character building aspect of accepting the ref's decision is final, right or wrong
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Bob372
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Bob372
It would have been a lot better if my Eagles hadn't fallen apart? The defensive coordinator should be tar and feathered.The game was a real nail biter though, wasn't it? Best superbowl I've watched in a long time.
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Rivets
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Rivets
Looks like we have those that enjoy sports and those who don’t. I played high school football and volleyball, plus college basketball, too short and slow in high school for the coach, and enjoy watching games whenever I can. If you were really involved at a younger age, or had children and grand children who participate, probably still are today. I attended the Ice Bowl in Green Bay and attended many major and minor league sporting events until my ability to sit on hard surfaces would not allow it, plus in a soft chair I get to sit closer to the action. As for the announcers and commercials, you have to learn to block out their BS. I do wish there were more announcers like Vince Scully, Harry Carey, Bob Uecker, Jack Brickhouse around. Those who are really bothered by todays crap, need to get a better life. Now don’t get my going on major news programs!
#37
Hammermechanicman
Hammermechanicman
Don't forget Madden
I have given up on MLB. The Reds suck anyway. We have a minor league farm team that i enjoy going to games vs going to downtown cincy for a Reds game. I will never buy a ticket to a NFL game but i do like the occasional free ones. Could not care less about basketball. Never watch it. Wouldn't go if you gave me tickets.
I have given up on MLB. The Reds suck anyway. We have a minor league farm team that i enjoy going to games vs going to downtown cincy for a Reds game. I will never buy a ticket to a NFL game but i do like the occasional free ones. Could not care less about basketball. Never watch it. Wouldn't go if you gave me tickets.
#38
smhardesty
smhardesty
Oh, boy. Ain't that the truth? I think Scully is one of the absolute best baseball announcers in the history of the game, at least in my lifetime. LOL! I thoroughly enjoyed listening to him. I also listened to a lot of the Cubs games when Harry was announcing. The longer the game went, the drunker he got, and the more ridiculous some of the things he said got. LOL! I can recall a game where Harry was REALLY wound up. A player hit a ball and Harry started his, "Way back! It could be! It might be!" but then he finished with this: "He caught it 20 feet in front of the warning track." I laughed and laughed at that one. Oh, and don't forget Jack Buck. Again, maybe one of the best ever.I do wish there were more announcers like Vince Scully, Harry Carey, Bob Uecker, Jack Brickhouse around.
#39
smhardesty
Yeah, the whole Independent League baseball thing is great for people that prefer watching guys playing for the love of the game. Sure, a lot of those guys are playing in the hopes they get the call "to the show". Even then, they are playing with real zest and love of the game. And going to one of those games will cost you one heck of a lot less than seeing an MLB game. A LOT less.
I quit watching the NBA and college hoops games way back when. I don't like the schoolyard rules they now use. Yeah, I'm old school, but traveling is traveling and palming the ball is palming the ball. Today's players do both every time they have the ball. I also played ball in school, along with football and baseball. When I played, taking four steps after picking the ball up on the way to the hoop was traveling, plain and simple. Now, 4 steps seems to be perfectly allowable. Nope, I'd rather watch our local high school boys play for a chance of getting to the state championship. No politics involved, and traveling is still traveling and palming is still palming. I think there is more heart on the floor during some of these high school games than all the NBA combined.
smhardesty
A lot of people hated Madden. I thought he added a bit of reality to the game. He wasn't a smooth talking type of guy. He REALLY got into his announcing with all of his, "This guy goes here, and these other guys go there, and then,,,BLAM, he gets tackled for a loss". It was real, from a guy who loved the game. It was enjoyable, at least to me.Don't forget Madden
I have given up on MLB. The Reds suck anyway. We have a minor league farm team that i enjoy going to games vs going to downtown cincy for a Reds game. I will never buy a ticket to a NFL game but i do like the occasional free ones. Could not care less about basketball. Never watch it. Wouldn't go if you gave me tickets.
Yeah, the whole Independent League baseball thing is great for people that prefer watching guys playing for the love of the game. Sure, a lot of those guys are playing in the hopes they get the call "to the show". Even then, they are playing with real zest and love of the game. And going to one of those games will cost you one heck of a lot less than seeing an MLB game. A LOT less.
I quit watching the NBA and college hoops games way back when. I don't like the schoolyard rules they now use. Yeah, I'm old school, but traveling is traveling and palming the ball is palming the ball. Today's players do both every time they have the ball. I also played ball in school, along with football and baseball. When I played, taking four steps after picking the ball up on the way to the hoop was traveling, plain and simple. Now, 4 steps seems to be perfectly allowable. Nope, I'd rather watch our local high school boys play for a chance of getting to the state championship. No politics involved, and traveling is still traveling and palming is still palming. I think there is more heart on the floor during some of these high school games than all the NBA combined.
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bertsmobile1
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IF you think it was bad over there , just imagine what it is like over here
Apparently there was an Aussie import on one of the teams so of course that was what filled every news broadcast for the whole week.
As if he outcome of a football game in the USA will make a difference to players in Australia.
even worse they get a local big mouth to add comentry over the top of the USA ones and naturally none of them have the feintest idea about how the game is played.
But doing this allows the TV station to add the broadcast to their "Aussie list" to fill the local content mandate.
Apparently there was an Aussie import on one of the teams so of course that was what filled every news broadcast for the whole week.
As if he outcome of a football game in the USA will make a difference to players in Australia.
even worse they get a local big mouth to add comentry over the top of the USA ones and naturally none of them have the feintest idea about how the game is played.
But doing this allows the TV station to add the broadcast to their "Aussie list" to fill the local content mandate.
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smhardesty
As for the player from Australia being on one of the teams. That tidbit was apparently not a very big deal here. I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about him. I guess our sports reporters don't much care about him. LOL! Now, if you can get an Aboriginal Australian that plays football in the US of A, he'll have all the attention and headlines he can handle.
smhardesty
Bert, I wish I could get some TV channel, station, or whatever that aired Australian rugby. I think I could really enjoy watching that.IF you think it was bad over there , just imagine what it is like over here
Apparently there was an Aussie import on one of the teams so of course that was what filled every news broadcast for the whole week.
As if he outcome of a football game in the USA will make a difference to players in Australia.
even worse they get a local big mouth to add comentry over the top of the USA ones and naturally none of them have the feintest idea about how the game is played.
But doing this allows the TV station to add the broadcast to their "Aussie list" to fill the local content mandate.
As for the player from Australia being on one of the teams. That tidbit was apparently not a very big deal here. I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about him. I guess our sports reporters don't much care about him. LOL! Now, if you can get an Aboriginal Australian that plays football in the US of A, he'll have all the attention and headlines he can handle.
#42
smhardesty
smhardesty
HAH! My wife just now told me that there was some minor rioting in Philly after the loss in the Super Bowl. It's just another thing wrong with sports in this country. Although not a lot, there were reports of damage to city signs and other property and a small amount of looting to a few stores. There is only one question. Why? What turns people into a wild pack of animals over a simple loss by their favorite team in a sporting event?
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320293805112
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320293805112
#43
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Rivets
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Google search. Jordan Mailata and Jesse Williams. Both Aussie rugby players who made the NFL
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bertsmobile1
When the Halls Gap BSA international was on we shares a cabin with 2 Americans.
it was a couple of weeks out from an election and they were astounded about how much tv news time was devoted to the US elections.
Both said that it was more than they would get at home.
Another American was sharing a cabin with our club President & said the same thing.
And all of them said it was the least biased coverage they had ever seen.
Your last 2 Presidential elections were live broadcast over here from near 100 tally rooms.
Apparently that was not available to US citizens .
As for the Super bowls contestants the local media has interviewed just about every one who had ever been within 2 yards from either of them from the day they were born .
ets very tedious listening to some one who knew them in kindergarden & hasn't seen them for over 20 years , but that is the state of Aust TV journalism
There are a lot of Aussies playing in all major USA sports .
We eat a lot better than Americans do in general with a much higher iron & protein content due the the large amount of red meat & the fact that Australian grain crops have very high protein content ( which causes a lot of kidney damage ) to the point that now days we strip proteins out of baking flours .
Black fellas tend to be tall & lean genetically so favour sports like NFL ( sort of like grid iron without the tackling ) baseball & basket ball rather than heavy contact sports which are often filled with Mauri ( brick dunnies with legs ) who are genetically tall & heavy .
A lot of black fellas get invited to go to the USA after playing with & against US troops stationed here .
Most would not make a premier division team locally ( because they are black & we are really a bit racist ) but can get a chance at major leagues in the USA .
Four football codes down here Rugby Union as played in the UK & France , Rugby league , a slightly less violent form of rugby, AFL , previously called Aussie Rules & only played in Australia + Football
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Nothing much about anything other than the USA seems to make it to US television apart from anti Russia & anti China stories.Bert, I wish I could get some TV channel, station, or whatever that aired Australian rugby. I think I could really enjoy watching that.
As for the player from Australia being on one of the teams. That tidbit was apparently not a very big deal here. I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about him. I guess our sports reporters don't much care about him. LOL! Now, if you can get an Aboriginal Australian that plays football in the US of A, he'll have all the attention and headlines he can handle.
When the Halls Gap BSA international was on we shares a cabin with 2 Americans.
it was a couple of weeks out from an election and they were astounded about how much tv news time was devoted to the US elections.
Both said that it was more than they would get at home.
Another American was sharing a cabin with our club President & said the same thing.
And all of them said it was the least biased coverage they had ever seen.
Your last 2 Presidential elections were live broadcast over here from near 100 tally rooms.
Apparently that was not available to US citizens .
As for the Super bowls contestants the local media has interviewed just about every one who had ever been within 2 yards from either of them from the day they were born .
ets very tedious listening to some one who knew them in kindergarden & hasn't seen them for over 20 years , but that is the state of Aust TV journalism
There are a lot of Aussies playing in all major USA sports .
We eat a lot better than Americans do in general with a much higher iron & protein content due the the large amount of red meat & the fact that Australian grain crops have very high protein content ( which causes a lot of kidney damage ) to the point that now days we strip proteins out of baking flours .
Black fellas tend to be tall & lean genetically so favour sports like NFL ( sort of like grid iron without the tackling ) baseball & basket ball rather than heavy contact sports which are often filled with Mauri ( brick dunnies with legs ) who are genetically tall & heavy .
A lot of black fellas get invited to go to the USA after playing with & against US troops stationed here .
Most would not make a premier division team locally ( because they are black & we are really a bit racist ) but can get a chance at major leagues in the USA .
Four football codes down here Rugby Union as played in the UK & France , Rugby league , a slightly less violent form of rugby, AFL , previously called Aussie Rules & only played in Australia + Football
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PTmowerMech
Some folks are just that way, and just need an excuse to express it. Ever seen "The Purge?"
PTmowerMech
HAH! My wife just now told me that there was some minor rioting in Philly after the loss in the Super Bowl. It's just another thing wrong with sports in this country. Although not a lot, there were reports of damage to city signs and other property and a small amount of looting to a few stores. There is only one question. Why? What turns people into a wild pack of animals over a simple loss by their favorite team in a sporting event?
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320293805112
Some folks are just that way, and just need an excuse to express it. Ever seen "The Purge?"
#46
smhardesty
I recently tried searching for the least biased news agencies in the US. I found a report on businessinsider.com and thought maybe I had found a way to find truly unbiased news reports. I was immediately discouraged when I saw what the "general public" thought was the most biased news agency in the US of A. Fox news was at the top of the list as being the most biased. That seemed off until I found where they had done their surveying. The majority of people they surveyed were in or near the big cities on the east coast and on the west coast. Yeah, sure. That's a truly unbiased crowd if ever there was one. LOL! They might as well have just called the article "Which news sources are the most biased according to Democrats". LOL!
My wife and I are neither Republican nor Democrat. We're both Constitutionalists, and we are constantly being told that we are Independents. We both argue with the dip sticks that call us that. We actually are card carrying members of The Constitution Party. We don't vote for a "party". We vote for the man. The problem is that it's really hard to find ANYONE that still holds to the principles of The Constitution of The United States. They all just go on the attack against the opposing party and don't really ever provide the voting public with their personal platform and beliefs. I guess those things just no longer matter in the US of A.
Maybe I should try to find a way to see news from Australia. LOL!
smhardesty
That's something that doesn't exist here in the States. There hasn't been an unbiased news report in over 25 years, and probably more than that. Now days, they don't even attempt to hide or disguise it. 80% to 90% of TV news, Internet news, and the few remaining printed newspapers are terribly liberal. Fox News and a couple other places try to balance the scale, but they go overboard with their conservatism so they aren't unbiased either.And all of them said it was the least biased coverage they had ever seen.
I recently tried searching for the least biased news agencies in the US. I found a report on businessinsider.com and thought maybe I had found a way to find truly unbiased news reports. I was immediately discouraged when I saw what the "general public" thought was the most biased news agency in the US of A. Fox news was at the top of the list as being the most biased. That seemed off until I found where they had done their surveying. The majority of people they surveyed were in or near the big cities on the east coast and on the west coast. Yeah, sure. That's a truly unbiased crowd if ever there was one. LOL! They might as well have just called the article "Which news sources are the most biased according to Democrats". LOL!
My wife and I are neither Republican nor Democrat. We're both Constitutionalists, and we are constantly being told that we are Independents. We both argue with the dip sticks that call us that. We actually are card carrying members of The Constitution Party. We don't vote for a "party". We vote for the man. The problem is that it's really hard to find ANYONE that still holds to the principles of The Constitution of The United States. They all just go on the attack against the opposing party and don't really ever provide the voting public with their personal platform and beliefs. I guess those things just no longer matter in the US of A.
Maybe I should try to find a way to see news from Australia. LOL!
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smhardesty
And you're right. There are way too many people that are just looking for a reason to act that way. I guess I'm just different, or old, or something.
My wife and I have been in conversations with lots of people about the difference between the "hijinks" of my day and what the kids of today do. We never caused any permanent property damage when we went on a spree. Our fun was creative, but never damaging.
We bought this house in June of 2016. There was quite a bit of remodeling we wanted done before we moved in so had a contractor here for a couple of months. We'd come and do some of the smaller jobs ourselves. We drove up one day the week before the 4th of July and found the fire department still putting out a few hot spots after a fire had nearly completely destroyed the house next door. We found out later that kids had thrown a handful of some kind of fireworks into a box sitting in the driveway of that house. The weird thing was that it wasn't just firecrackers. They had thrown mortars, rockets, and flaming tubes in the box. The box caught fire, then set the garage door on fire, then the whole house went up. Turns out that the "kids" that did it were in the 16 to 18 year old range and two of them just happened to be the sons of another family that was having a small feud with the family that owned the house. Long story short, the officials determined it was "probably" intentional, but there wasn't enough evidence to find them guilty in court, so nothing was ever done about it. The young family that owned the house then had to find a place to rent while the house was completely remodeled.
The following year kids broke into a local house with historical relevance and completely trashed the place. The damage was so extensive that it was decided to call on the State of Illinois and other government agencies to find the funds to completely gut the place and do a remodel. Sure, it'll look like an old, historically significant house, but in fact, you won't be seeing any of the original house. It'll all be new products made to look old. And for what? What the hell did those little turds get out of destroying that place?
smhardesty
Yep, I have seen three different Purge movies. Crap. Now I'm trying to decide of I've seen three, or two, or four, or,,,,, I love not having a mind anymore. LOL!Some folks are just that way, and just need an excuse to express it. Ever seen "The Purge?"
And you're right. There are way too many people that are just looking for a reason to act that way. I guess I'm just different, or old, or something.
My wife and I have been in conversations with lots of people about the difference between the "hijinks" of my day and what the kids of today do. We never caused any permanent property damage when we went on a spree. Our fun was creative, but never damaging.
We bought this house in June of 2016. There was quite a bit of remodeling we wanted done before we moved in so had a contractor here for a couple of months. We'd come and do some of the smaller jobs ourselves. We drove up one day the week before the 4th of July and found the fire department still putting out a few hot spots after a fire had nearly completely destroyed the house next door. We found out later that kids had thrown a handful of some kind of fireworks into a box sitting in the driveway of that house. The weird thing was that it wasn't just firecrackers. They had thrown mortars, rockets, and flaming tubes in the box. The box caught fire, then set the garage door on fire, then the whole house went up. Turns out that the "kids" that did it were in the 16 to 18 year old range and two of them just happened to be the sons of another family that was having a small feud with the family that owned the house. Long story short, the officials determined it was "probably" intentional, but there wasn't enough evidence to find them guilty in court, so nothing was ever done about it. The young family that owned the house then had to find a place to rent while the house was completely remodeled.
The following year kids broke into a local house with historical relevance and completely trashed the place. The damage was so extensive that it was decided to call on the State of Illinois and other government agencies to find the funds to completely gut the place and do a remodel. Sure, it'll look like an old, historically significant house, but in fact, you won't be seeing any of the original house. It'll all be new products made to look old. And for what? What the hell did those little turds get out of destroying that place?
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bertsmobile1
It would appear that every Australian news team all went to the same college & work off the same textbook so they present virtually identical stories poorly.
There is an over representation of observant jewish people in the media & in news rooms in particular so broadcasts are highly pro-Israel so a soilder who gets hit with a rock gets 5 minutes of news time while 80 DRC cobalt miners trapped & dieing underground is found on page 33 of the web after the stories of sports peoples strained muscles .
the government run station used to be good but now they are jus click bait fishers as well.
SBS, a multicultural government partially funded station seems to have the least biased coverage which is sort of expected as they have 3000 employees who speak 450 different languages & come from 90 different countries so you don't have the privledeged white christian male gaze .
The ABC is stuffed with reactionary idiots so groups like PEDA & Animals Australia & GreenPeace get way too much air time .
I listen to the PNN ( Parliamentry News Network ) now most of the day which is interesting as I hear the full days question time or right now the full days inquirey into Robo-Debt and what I hear on the news at night does not resemble what I heard during the day.
The words are perfect quotes but done out of context to give an implied meaning according t the agenda of the news room who preparred it .
There is also a disproportinate number of members of Opus Day and Free Masionary in executive management as well .
OTOH, bias is like beauty it is in the eyes of the beholder .
What I consider hard right wing you could consider middle of the road & visa versa.
Al-Gyzera actually presents a truer picture of Australian news than any of the Australian media does but the right wing government parties had it banned from any radio or TV network apart from SBS & they are limited to the middle east coverage broadcast in
Arabic .
A housemate had a rather sound attitude to news & current affairs
unless it affects him personally, his work or the local community then he has better things to occupy his mind upon.
His regular reply was, very interesting so what do you expect me to do about it ?
Does it make a difference to Australians who sits in the White House - No
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bertsmobile1
They are all available on line if you really want to but I would not bother .That's something that doesn't exist here in the States. There hasn't been an unbiased news report in over 25 years, and probably more than that. Now days, they don't even attempt to hide or disguise it. 80% to 90% of TV news, Internet news, and the few remaining printed newspapers are terribly liberal. Fox News and a couple other places try to balance the scale, but they go overboard with their conservatism so they aren't unbiased either.
I recently tried searching for the least biased news agencies in the US. I found a report on businessinsider.com and thought maybe I had found a way to find truly unbiased news reports. I was immediately discouraged when I saw what the "general public" thought was the most biased news agency in the US of A. Fox news was at the top of the list as being the most biased. That seemed off until I found where they had done their surveying. The majority of people they surveyed were in or near the big cities on the east coast and on the west coast. Yeah, sure. That's a truly unbiased crowd if ever there was one. LOL! They might as well have just called the article "Which news sources are the most biased according to Democrats". LOL!
My wife and I are neither Republican nor Democrat. We're both Constitutionalists, and we are constantly being told that we are Independents. We both argue with the dip sticks that call us that. We actually are card carrying members of The Constitution Party. We don't vote for a "party". We vote for the man. The problem is that it's really hard to find ANYONE that still holds to the principles of The Constitution of The United States. They all just go on the attack against the opposing party and don't really ever provide the voting public with their personal platform and beliefs. I guess those things just no longer matter in the US of A.
Maybe I should try to find a way to see news from Australia. LOL!
It would appear that every Australian news team all went to the same college & work off the same textbook so they present virtually identical stories poorly.
There is an over representation of observant jewish people in the media & in news rooms in particular so broadcasts are highly pro-Israel so a soilder who gets hit with a rock gets 5 minutes of news time while 80 DRC cobalt miners trapped & dieing underground is found on page 33 of the web after the stories of sports peoples strained muscles .
the government run station used to be good but now they are jus click bait fishers as well.
SBS, a multicultural government partially funded station seems to have the least biased coverage which is sort of expected as they have 3000 employees who speak 450 different languages & come from 90 different countries so you don't have the privledeged white christian male gaze .
The ABC is stuffed with reactionary idiots so groups like PEDA & Animals Australia & GreenPeace get way too much air time .
I listen to the PNN ( Parliamentry News Network ) now most of the day which is interesting as I hear the full days question time or right now the full days inquirey into Robo-Debt and what I hear on the news at night does not resemble what I heard during the day.
The words are perfect quotes but done out of context to give an implied meaning according t the agenda of the news room who preparred it .
There is also a disproportinate number of members of Opus Day and Free Masionary in executive management as well .
OTOH, bias is like beauty it is in the eyes of the beholder .
What I consider hard right wing you could consider middle of the road & visa versa.
Al-Gyzera actually presents a truer picture of Australian news than any of the Australian media does but the right wing government parties had it banned from any radio or TV network apart from SBS & they are limited to the middle east coverage broadcast in
Arabic .
A housemate had a rather sound attitude to news & current affairs
unless it affects him personally, his work or the local community then he has better things to occupy his mind upon.
His regular reply was, very interesting so what do you expect me to do about it ?
Does it make a difference to Australians who sits in the White House - No
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smhardesty
But I do get your meaning. I believe I see you saying that no matter where you are, and no matter what you watch or read, you will no longer be able to enjoy a newscast of any kind that isn't biased in some way. Guys my age and older will remember Walter Cronkite very well. Maybe I was too young to see it, and maybe the hundreds of thousands of guys like me that say the same thing I say are wrong, but I just can NOT recall him ever doing a news story where he was overly biased. I know there were other news anchors that were very much like him, but he sticks out because the local, if you can call it that, TV station that we picked up the best was a CBS affiliate. So every night my folks watched the local news on that station, then watched Walter for world news. About the closest I can recall him to being biased was near the end of the Vietnam conflict. As I recall, he managed to walk the fence as closely as he could, but he was letting a little personal opinion against the war seep out in his reports. Not that he was wrong, but it sure wasn't the pure fact filled reports he did a few years earlier.
It's a real shame we can't go back to that.
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smhardesty
I keep hearing about this privileged white male stuff and I'm wondering just where these guys are. I sure don't seem to be enjoying any special privileges. LOL!so you don't have the privledeged white christian male gaze
But I do get your meaning. I believe I see you saying that no matter where you are, and no matter what you watch or read, you will no longer be able to enjoy a newscast of any kind that isn't biased in some way. Guys my age and older will remember Walter Cronkite very well. Maybe I was too young to see it, and maybe the hundreds of thousands of guys like me that say the same thing I say are wrong, but I just can NOT recall him ever doing a news story where he was overly biased. I know there were other news anchors that were very much like him, but he sticks out because the local, if you can call it that, TV station that we picked up the best was a CBS affiliate. So every night my folks watched the local news on that station, then watched Walter for world news. About the closest I can recall him to being biased was near the end of the Vietnam conflict. As I recall, he managed to walk the fence as closely as he could, but he was letting a little personal opinion against the war seep out in his reports. Not that he was wrong, but it sure wasn't the pure fact filled reports he did a few years earlier.
It's a real shame we can't go back to that.
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
MEdia is measured by surveys that are generally carefully managed to give the results that the purchaser wanted to get.
Right now one of the measures is click through and calls to the station
Thus what is said is designed to evoke a reaction rather than allow the observer to make an informed decision .
Privledeged white christian gaze
Well for a start we now get 5 minute of finance news which is basically a couple of shares that went up or down , the market indicies in the USA, EU , UK , Japan , Singapore & OZ plus the value of the $Aus against the $ US , £ , Euro , Yen none of which are as important as against the RMB being China is 75% of Aust exports and 60 of our imports .
A footballer who had a heart attack on the field in the USA got 5 minutes every night for over 3 weeks .
Where as a militia slaughtering 3 complete villages in PNG to free up land for mining never got a mention because black people don't exist or it might make white people feel guilty about throwing away last years smart phone .
A baby that was killed in a Portuguese bus accident made every news broadcast for over a week where as the same thing in India which is almost a daily event is never mentioned .( wrong religion wrong skin colour )
The floods in Europe last year were on the news every might for months
The floods in Pakistan got a couple of minutes for 2 or 3 nights then forgotten ( brown people do not matter unless they are carrying a bomb amongst white people )
And of course every fart in Palestine/Israel will be the headline story that night .
South America & South Africa do not exist unless there has been a military coup or a white person has been injured/kidnapped .
Delays in getting new cars gets a mention at least once a week where as only 1/4 of the worlds population owns a car and only reasonably well off people buy new ones.
When Interplod smashed the biggest child porn ring on the planet 8 Australians were arrested .
6 of them were MD's CEO's or Directors of public companies , their names were surpressed on the grounds of the effect it might have on the share market where as the poor iron worker who had his computer zombied ( like he could afford $ 100,000 video clips & $ 20,000 still images ) got his name & suburb mentioned which of course meant that the brain dead burned his house down .
Right now one of the measures is click through and calls to the station
Thus what is said is designed to evoke a reaction rather than allow the observer to make an informed decision .
Privledeged white christian gaze
Well for a start we now get 5 minute of finance news which is basically a couple of shares that went up or down , the market indicies in the USA, EU , UK , Japan , Singapore & OZ plus the value of the $Aus against the $ US , £ , Euro , Yen none of which are as important as against the RMB being China is 75% of Aust exports and 60 of our imports .
A footballer who had a heart attack on the field in the USA got 5 minutes every night for over 3 weeks .
Where as a militia slaughtering 3 complete villages in PNG to free up land for mining never got a mention because black people don't exist or it might make white people feel guilty about throwing away last years smart phone .
A baby that was killed in a Portuguese bus accident made every news broadcast for over a week where as the same thing in India which is almost a daily event is never mentioned .( wrong religion wrong skin colour )
The floods in Europe last year were on the news every might for months
The floods in Pakistan got a couple of minutes for 2 or 3 nights then forgotten ( brown people do not matter unless they are carrying a bomb amongst white people )
And of course every fart in Palestine/Israel will be the headline story that night .
South America & South Africa do not exist unless there has been a military coup or a white person has been injured/kidnapped .
Delays in getting new cars gets a mention at least once a week where as only 1/4 of the worlds population owns a car and only reasonably well off people buy new ones.
When Interplod smashed the biggest child porn ring on the planet 8 Australians were arrested .
6 of them were MD's CEO's or Directors of public companies , their names were surpressed on the grounds of the effect it might have on the share market where as the poor iron worker who had his computer zombied ( like he could afford $ 100,000 video clips & $ 20,000 still images ) got his name & suburb mentioned which of course meant that the brain dead burned his house down .
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smhardesty
smhardesty
You know, Bert. It doesn't sound like things are that terribly different between here and there. We're fed a study diet of the same type things you mentioned. The true, fact filled account of what happened is pretty much either suppressed, or exaggerated so that we never really know the whole story. I guess it's nice to see that our problems aren't a lot different than the problems in other lands.
Bottom line? It's a sad time in history. I had to really chuckle when I read your account of the "footballer who had a heart attack on the field in the USA" getting 5 minutes every night for three weeks. You should have been here for that event. WOW! There were a couple of the sports news shows that covered NOTHING except that for a night or two. My gripe about that is that while that one, single individual was receiving that much publicity, thousands of other people suffered much worse medical problems and nearly 600,000 individuals in this country were going without supper and sleeping on the streets. They had a special "go fund me" deal for him that raised somewhere north of 8 million dollars. That is the amount "reported". Who knows the true amount. The money is supposedly going to be used "to support young people through education and sports". How about using that money to feed some homeless families and maybe get some in some type of housing? But, that's a whole 'nother story. LOL!
Bottom line? It's a sad time in history. I had to really chuckle when I read your account of the "footballer who had a heart attack on the field in the USA" getting 5 minutes every night for three weeks. You should have been here for that event. WOW! There were a couple of the sports news shows that covered NOTHING except that for a night or two. My gripe about that is that while that one, single individual was receiving that much publicity, thousands of other people suffered much worse medical problems and nearly 600,000 individuals in this country were going without supper and sleeping on the streets. They had a special "go fund me" deal for him that raised somewhere north of 8 million dollars. That is the amount "reported". Who knows the true amount. The money is supposedly going to be used "to support young people through education and sports". How about using that money to feed some homeless families and maybe get some in some type of housing? But, that's a whole 'nother story. LOL!
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bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
We had a base next door to one of the major Sydney radio stations.
The driver of one of the big mouth shock jocks asked me to deliver bank cheques regularly to various refugee charities while at the same time he abused the refugees ( called boat people ) and the associations that supported them endlessly on the air so no one could link him to the payments .
All about stirring up emotions & causing reactions .
The driver of one of the big mouth shock jocks asked me to deliver bank cheques regularly to various refugee charities while at the same time he abused the refugees ( called boat people ) and the associations that supported them endlessly on the air so no one could link him to the payments .
All about stirring up emotions & causing reactions .