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Service Manual needed

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Rivets

I have just gotten in an old Kohler 950 Generator in for repair. Model 950MM25. Serial number 1007913. I need a service manual for this unit. Engine runs great, but I have no AC output. Kohler has obsoleted this units 15 years ago and my tech contact has not been able to find anything for me yet. Another possibility is does anyone remember how to flash these units. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Rivets.


#2

EngineMan

EngineMan

I have PM you...!


#3

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KennyV

You can "flash" a generator using a 'corded' electric drill motor...:
With the generator running, Plug in the drill motor.
Turn the drill motor by hand while holding it 'on'... the small amount of current you generate by turning the drill motor by hand will flash the dead generator...

:smile:KennyV


#4

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Rivets

I'll give that a try this week.



#6

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Rivets

Due to many things I have not been able to work on this unit. Today I tried flashing this unit, but could still get no output. Still looking for a service manual or wiring diagram in PDF form. Thought I would give it another try and see if anyone has one?


#7

davbell22602

davbell22602

I cant find anything on this either as far as free manual or wiring diagram.


#8

davbell22602

davbell22602

Did you try flashing it both directions with a electric drill forward and reverse?


#9

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mechanic mark

http://www.kohler-engine-parts.opeengines.com/pub/SM_6269002_CV940_CV960_CV980_CV1000_REV12_11.pdf


Rivets, contact Kohler and ask them to send you wiring diagram for 950MM25 and shop manual by email.


#10

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Rivets

Have tried flashing in both directions, no luck. I have 14VDC, but only 11VAC. My contact at Kohler has retired and have had no luck getting a manual from them.


#11

briggs

briggs

Have tried flashing in both directions, no luck. I have 14VDC, but only 11VAC. My contact at Kohler has retired and have had no luck getting a manual from them.


I just went on a search I found tons of manuals for sale on E-bay ..But nothing to down load ..I even talked to my buddy that owns a small engine shop in Toronto he has nothing ether ..What a pain in the *** that is hummm will keep digging there has to something out there


#12

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TheEquineFencer

OK, check the output voltage, if it reads something like 1-3 VAC L-N and 3-6 VAC L-L (Line to Neutral , Line to Line) proceed. Pull the rear end cover off the generator end. Look at the slip rings. If they are dark looking, what I have done in the past, is pull the brush block out, marking or noting wire/terminal position, cranks and run the generator and use a pair of needle nose pliers and a FINE scothchbrite pad to clean the slip rings. check with a DVM the resistance though the rotor across the slip rings and then check from the slip rings to chassis ground. you should have an open circuit to ground and some resistance through the rotor. Then reinstall the brush block. Then take a volt/ohms meter and see which of the wires going to the brush block is going to ground, one should read high resistance, the other fairly low. Leave the one going to ground connected, unhook the (+) going to the brushblock. The one reading low Ohms should be the ground. Connect your meter to the AC output (120/240) like you're checking the voltage. Then with the generator running, take a 6-12VDC battery, connect the (-) to chassis ground and the touch the (+) to the brush block for a second or two. This will flash the rotor. It should put out unregulated AC Voltage, note the voltage on the 120/240 output your meter is hooked to. it should rise well above what it is reading before you flash the field. If it does, put the (+) wire to the brushblock back on after shutting it off, reinstall everything and then try it as normal. If when you flash it, the voltage does not rise, you probaly have a good parts engine. As the crankshaft is a tapered end, not straight. It cost so much to replace a rotor or stator it's as cheap to go buy another generator. If after flashing, the voltage does rise, but after installing back to normal it does not work, you have a voltage regulation problem. Depending on how it regulates, some have a regulator, some capicator, it may worth fixing.


#13

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Rivets

Thank you for those directions. When I get a chance I'll give it a try. Get our first good snow last night and I know the rest of the week will be a bit hectic to say the least. Hope I can get at it this weekend.


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