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Mar 7, 2014#1

jekjr

I have a telephone interview Monday to possibly get some Safeguard work. I have heard so many stories I don't know whether they will be a hood thing or a dad thing for me. If they hire me I think I am going to give them a try.

Mar 7, 2014#2

Carscw

We just signed back on with them got first job today. Was told when we did the phone interview that they have 77 work orders past due.
Things have changed with them since I was a vender 2 years ago.
Make sure you read the documents they send you so you know what to bid on and what is normal. And how the price on grass cuts work.

The pics they want are very simple but make sure you get every one they want.

Safegaurd is a very good company to work for they pay on time and are very easy to get along with.

If you have any questions about anything let me know.

Don't let the initial grass cuts stress you out. Get a yard stick to show how tall the grass is do you get the over a foot pay.

And get ready to work a lot.

Mar 7, 2014#3

Carscw

Oh and you can NOT access their vender web on your iPhone you have to use a PC

Mar 7, 2014#4

jekjr

Carscw said:
We just signed back on with them got first job today. Was told when we did the phone interview that they have 77 work orders past due.
Things have changed with them since I was a vender 2 years ago.
Make sure you read the documents they send you so you know what to bid on and what is normal. And how the price on grass cuts work.

The pics they want are very simple but make sure you get every one they want.

Safegaurd is a very good company to work for they pay on time and are very easy to get along with.

If you have any questions about anything let me know.

Don't let the initial grass cuts stress you out. Get a yard stick to show how tall the grass is do you get the over a foot pay.

And get ready to work a lot.

Answer me a question.

What do you have to do about city licsence when you work with them? In my part of the world there will be numerous small towns and to cut grass in every one of them one has to have a licsence. Do you have to buy a licsence in every one or are they covered in some way through Safeguard?

If not it could get expensive down here.

Mar 7, 2014#5

jekjr

jekjr said:
Answer me a question.

What do you have to do about city licsence when you work with them? In my part of the world there will be numerous small towns and to cut grass in every one of them one has to have a licsence. Do you have to buy a licsence in every one or are they covered in some way through Safeguard?

If not it could get expensive down here.

From what I understand they will want me to pull 60 miles or so in different directions. Do they pay any kind of mileage compensation for that?

Mar 7, 2014#6

Carscw

jekjr said:
Answer me a question. What do you have to do about city licsence when you work with them? In my part of the world there will be numerous small towns and to cut grass in every one of them one has to have a licsence. Do you have to buy a licsence in every one or are they covered in some way through Safeguard? If not it could get expensive down here.

All I have is a state Business license so I can have a tax number. I have never been stopped and asked for one.

I know guys that have no license and work for them.

2 years ago all my work for them was in north Alabama only got pulled over one time and all they did was make sure none if my equipment was stolen. I really don't think they pull people over and ask for a Business license if you do not have a name on your truck.

Mar 7, 2014#7

Carscw

jekjr said:
From what I understand they will want me to pull 60 miles or so in different directions. Do they pay any kind of mileage compensation for that?

You could end up 60 miles from home but you will do yards there and back.

I have a app called route 4 me it works real good to plan the route out.

I have had them pay extra for driving.
I had one yard was a 2 hour drive from any other yard I told them I would not do it they raised my pay $10 per yard to make up for the driving. At the time I was doing 100 yards per week. Sometimes it was cheaper to get a $30 motel then to drive home.

Mar 8, 2014#8

jekjr

Carscw said:
All I have is a state Business license so I can have a tax number. I have never been stopped and asked for one.

I know guys that have no license and work for them.

2 years ago all my work for them was in north Alabama only got pulled over one time and all they did was make sure none if my equipment was stolen. I really don't think they pull people over and ask for a Business license if you do not have a name on your truck.

In the towns down here if you hope through town with a trailer with a zero turn on it they watch you. Immediately if they see you cutting grass they normally make you either load back up or buy a licsence.

I have my logo on my trailer too. That might be a problem.

I just got my tax #. Had been just using my Social Security number....

Mar 8, 2014#9

Carscw

This is a Safegaurd job today.

I would think with just a Business license you would be ok.

Mar 8, 2014#10

jekjr

Carscw said:
This is a Safegaurd job today.

I would think with just a Business license you would be ok.
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It will but I have one in one town of 500 that costs $35 and one another town over that costs $85 and another that costs $112 per year and every little town in this part of the world is standing out there with it's hand out. I am sure that there are numerous others that are that way as well.

Mar 8, 2014#11

Carscw

Give me the names of the towns and I can have my lawyer look for away around it.

Mar 8, 2014#12

jekjr

I am licensed in three. I will have to see what towns they want to give me work in. In Alabama now though it is pretty much every one you work on that is an incorporated town or city.

Mar 8, 2014#13

jekjr

Carscw said:
This is a Safegaurd job today. I would think with just a Business license you would be ok. <img src="http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19650"/>

How much do they pay for that job?

Mar 8, 2014#14

exotion

I say be careful I've heard a lot of horror stories about these types of companys. Where you don't pass inspection and don't get paid or dont get don't in time etc etc.

Mar 8, 2014#15

Carscw

exotion said:
I say be careful I've heard a lot of horror stories about these types of companys. Where you don't pass inspection and don't get paid or dont get don't in time etc etc.

With Safegaurd as long as you take the pics they want your good to go.
I worked for them for years never had any trouble with them.

I transferred my contract with them to a friend 2 years ago.

Past year have been working for A2Z been nothing but problems with them. Monday is my last day as Safegaurd will be dropping 76 yards on me.

I have talked to people that have got charge backs from Safegaurd and it's always because they did a suk azz job.

Just make sure you read everything they send you.
Job today took us 2 1/2 hours ( me and the wife ) $150.00 The recut will take 15 mins for $40

Mar 8, 2014#16

jekjr

Carscw said:
With Safegaurd as long as you take the pics they want your good to go.
I worked for them for years never had any trouble with them.

I transferred my contract with them to a friend 2 years ago.

Past year have been working for A2Z been nothing but problems with them. Monday is my last day as Safegaurd will be dropping 76 yards on me.

I have talked to people that have got charge backs from Safegaurd and it's always because they did a suk azz job.

Just make sure you read everything they send you.
Job today took us 2 1/2 hours ( me and the wife ) $150.00 The recut will take 15 mins for $40

I do not know how much work they have here but I will definitely be talking to the recruiter or who ever gives the interview Monday AM. I definitely believe that we can do the quality of work that they need.

I do not know of but one person in this area that does that kind of work. He won't tell anybody who he works for or anything about it. I know he works all of the time and I have been told that he works for several different companies..... Time will tell but if they pay decent and have work I am their man.

Mar 10, 2014#17

jekjr

jekjr said:
It will but I have one in one town of 500 that costs $35 and one another town over that costs $85 and another that costs $112 per year and every little town in this part of the world is standing out there with it's hand out. I am sure that there are numerous others that are that way as well.

Help me. They offered me 200 plus cuts a month. However they require me to have a bagging system and bag ALL TRIMMINGS. Is that what you have to do?

Mar 10, 2014#18

exotion

jekjr said:
Help me. They offered me 200 plus cuts a month. However they require me to have a bagging system and bag ALL TRIMMINGS. Is that what you have to do?

That'll keep you busy. Makes since they want it bagged

Mar 10, 2014#19

Carscw

jekjr said:
Help me. They offered me 200 plus cuts a month. However they require me to have a bagging system and bag ALL TRIMMINGS. Is that what you have to do?

I never bag and have never been asked to.
I just make sure there are no piles or rows of clippings.

You will be fine as long as you don't leave rows of clippings.

I even mulch up the clipping from the bushes I have to trim.

On first time cuts with tall grass I use high lift blades. In recuts I use mulching blades and side discharge.

The truck is to know what your going to do with the clippings before you start mowing.

Mar 10, 2014#20

jekjr

Carscw said:
I never bag and have never been asked to.
I just make sure there are no piles or rows of clippings.

You will be fine as long as you don't leave rows of clippings.

I even mulch up the clipping from the bushes I have to trim.

On first time cuts with tall grass I use high lift blades. In recuts I use mulching blades and side discharge.

The truck is to know what your going to do with the clippings before you start mowing.

The lady recruiting me said I had to have a bagging system and bag the clippings....

Mar 10, 2014#21

Carscw

jekjr said:
The lady recruiting me said I had to have a bagging system and bag the clippings....

Wow never heard of them wanting that.
Just asked a guy in north Alabama and he never heard of it.

Did she say if you get paid extra per bag?

Mar 10, 2014#22

jekjr

Carscw said:
Wow never heard of them wanting that.
Just asked a guy in north Alabama and he never heard of it.

Did she say if you get paid extra per bag?

I understood two dollars a bag. Not sure of more details. I would be on the way to signing up if I had not gotten that. She was wanting to hook me up with 200+ cuts a month. I would have jumped on it even though it is a pretty good sized zone to drive.

I think you are right. I think now that it is like you said because I have never seen anybody in this part of the world that bags in the summer time with the exception of a couple of places that are manicured.

Mar 10, 2014#23

exotion

jekjr said:
I understood two dollars a bag. Not sure of more details. I would be on the way to signing up if I had not gotten that. She was wanting to hook me up with 200+ cuts a month. I would have jumped on it even though it is a pretty good sized zone to drive.

Do you have a truck for hauling clippings? And a place to dump them ?

Mar 10, 2014#24

Carscw

I think maybe she was saying if you bag you get paid the extra.

I would call or email them and make sure what they want.
Did you tell her you don't bag?

Mar 10, 2014#25

jekjr

exotion said:
That'll keep you busy. Makes since they want it bagged

Do you know how many bags you would get off of an acre of Bahia grass cut every 14 days?

A day's cutting would be many pickup loads of clippings. In fact one yard would be a pickup load on many yards.

This is South Alabama. It will be like the tropics here in the summer if we a have a wet summer.

Mar 10, 2014#26

exotion

jekjr said:
Do you know how many bags you would get off of an acre of Bahia grass cut every 14 days?

A day's cutting would be many pickup loads of clippings. In fact one yard would be a pickup load on many yards.

This is South Alabama. It will be like the tropics here in the summer if we a have a wet summer.

To many varibles to give an estimate on bags.... Can try to add a cage to your truck for extra room.

Mar 10, 2014#27

jekjr

Carscw said:
I think maybe she was saying if you bag you get paid the extra.

I would call or email them and make sure what they want.
Did you tell her you don't bag?

I told her I did jot have a bagging system and I would have to find out how much it would cost to get one. I emailed her back and called and left. Message to call me back that I got a price on a bagging system and wanted the job. I have not heard from her.

I think you are right still on the bagging. I think that if I could get hooked up with the district rep that we would not have a problem. I understand what you are talking about on not leaving piles or streaks of clippings.

Mar 10, 2014#28

exotion

Here is mine it looks decent and was cheap to build 2x4 and metal mesh adds about a yard and a half to my truck

Mar 10, 2014#29

jekjr

exotion said:
To many varibles to give an estimate on bags.... Can try to add a cage to your truck for extra room.

Cutting 200+ cuts per month down here on a 14 day rotation would take a large set of sides and a truck dedicated to hauling probably.

Mar 10, 2014#30

exotion

jekjr said:
Cutting 200+ cuts per month down here on a 14 day rotation would take a large set of sides and a truck dedicated to hauling probably.

Gotta say I've never filled my truck in a single day go to the dump daily

Mar 10, 2014#31

jekjr

exotion said:
Here is mine it looks decent and was cheap to build 2x4 and metal mesh adds about a yard and a half to my truck

In 10 inch deep Bahia grass my 326 Kubota zero turn will fill one of those large black trash bags up on about one minute or less.

Lots of bags in a day.

Mar 10, 2014#32

exotion

Well that's a lot of grass.. I don't know you can mulch it and not tell them lol

Mar 10, 2014#33

jekjr

exotion said:
Well that's a lot of grass.. I don't know you can mulch it and not tell them lol

I think that they want you to not leave a mess. Because of where these houses are and what the vast majority are they will look great wi though bagging everything. In all probability my mistake was questioning the lady and in all probability she was reading from a script and we were not communicating correctly. She appeared to be good at her job however I give her credit. I am sure that there could be times that there might be some that has to be bagged but n most situations not.

Mar 10, 2014#34

exotion

Probably for extra long field type work. My experience its hard to mulch 4 ft long weeds and make it look nice

Mar 10, 2014#35

Carscw

exotion said:
Probably for extra long field type work. My experience its hard to mulch 4 ft long weeds and make it look nice

I love getting to a house and the weeds are 4 foot.

I drop the deck on the husqvarna 2448 to the ground and have at it.

Discharge with high lift blades and cut twice. Once down low and then up high

Mar 10, 2014#36

exotion

I have a walk being weedeater. It had a 3.5 tecumseh I swapped a 6.5 briggs and ran a better belt I use that for fields and my goodness you can't barely see the clippings when its done. If you can ill run over it with my Honda afterword

Mar 11, 2014#37

jekjr

Carscw said:
I love getting to a house and the weeds are 4 foot.

I drop the deck on the husqvarna 2448 to the ground and have at it.

Discharge with high lift blades and cut twice. Once down low and then up high

Still not able to talk to the recruiter again. Called yesterday and left message. Did not return my call e mailed yesterday did not respond. E mailed again this AM responded I will contact you this afternoon. Thanks. It is 4:30 here and no contact.

I really need this contract. If we get this I don't need any other yards. If I do not get this contract I need a bunch of yards.

Mar 11, 2014#38

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LoCo86

jekjr said:
In 10 inch deep Bahia grass my 326 Kubota zero turn will fill one of those large black trash bags up on about one minute or less. Lots of bags in a day.

For all that bagging it seems like you would need a Ventrac with a bagging system. And you would need a truck and trailer set up just to haul the clippings. The grass adds up so fast when you use a collection system especially when it's that tall.

Mar 12, 2014#39

jekjr

LoCo86 said:
For all that bagging it seems like you would need a Ventrac with a bagging system. And you would need a truck and trailer set up just to haul the clippings. The grass adds up so fast when you use a collection system especially when it's that tall.

I believe that we had a miscommunication. There is no way that we could bag that much grass. 200+ cuts a month in South Al in July would be semi dump trailers loads of clippings.

Mar 13, 2014#40

mikec280

jekjr said:
I believe that we had a miscommunication. There is no way that we could bag that much grass. 200+ cuts a month in South Al in July would be semi dump trailers loads of clippings.

Hey Jekjr I'm curious if you've heard from safeguard. It never crossed my mind until I read your post that this company existed. But Iike others have said , I've read a lot of bad reviews online.

Mar 13, 2014#41

Carscw

mikec280 said:
Hey Jekjr I'm curious if you've heard from safeguard. It never crossed my mind until I read your post that this company existed. But Iike others have said , I've read a lot of bad reviews online.

The thing with reviews is people do not think to write one if they don't have something bad to say.

Out of all the property preservation company's out there Safegaurd is just about the best

Mar 13, 2014#42

jekjr

Carscw said:
The thing with reviews is people do not think to write one if they don't have something bad to say. Out of all the property preservation company's out there Safegaurd is just about the best

I still have not heard anything else. I do believe they are a good company. Just not had success with the recruiter assigned to me.

I sure would like to go to work with them.

Mar 13, 2014#43

Carscw

jekjr said:
I still have not heard anything else. I do believe they are a good company. Just not had success with the recruiter assigned to me. I sure would like to go to work with them.

Try calling (216) 739-2900
Tell them what's going on and your not sure who you need to talk to.

Mar 17, 2014#44

jekjr

Carscw said:
Try calling (216) 739-2900 Tell them what's going on and your not sure who you need to talk to.

I called that # this AM. We will see.

Mar 17, 2014#45

jekjr

jekjr said:
I called that # this AM. We will see.

Still no reply.

Mar 18, 2014#46

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dereklawncare

How does the pay/bidding work for Safeguard? Is it a standard fee for mowing every yard that's under one acre as long as the grass is under a foot high? Like $30 a yard and you bid if the property is over an acre.

Carcw mentioned that they chipped in for gas, did you have to ask for that?

Mar 18, 2014#47

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
How does the pay/bidding work for Safeguard? Is it a standard fee for mowing every yard that's under one acre as long as the grass is under a foot high? Like $30 a yard and you bid if the property is over an acre. Carcw mentioned that they chipped in for gas, did you have to ask for that?

One set price for up to a acre a foot tall.
Then a set price for every foot over the first foot.
They did not chip in for gas. What they did was pay me more per yard because I had a few yards that took a hour to get to.
I refused to do the yards because of the drive time so they paid me more to justify the drive.

Any thing over a acre you bid on.
I never cut a full acre. I cut no more then 100 feet from the house.
They now have a iPhone app you take the pics with your phone and they upload to the work order. So no more going home and uploading them to your PC then to the vender web. Save many hours of invoicing.

Mar 18, 2014#48

jekjr

Carscw said:
One set price for up to a acre a foot tall. Then a set price for every foot over the first foot. They did not chip in for gas. What they did was pay me more per yard because I had a few yards that took a hour to get to. I refused to do the yards because of the drive time so they paid me more to justify the drive. Any thing over a acre you bid on. I never cut a full acre. I cut no more then 100 feet from the house. They now have a iPhone app you take the pics with your phone and they upload to the work order. So no more going home and uploading them to your PC then to the vender web. Save many hours of invoicing.

I just wish I could get to work with them. All I get is "I will tell the recruiter to contact you". But she does not call or e mail.

Mar 18, 2014#49

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dereklawncare

Thanks for clearing that up, Carscw. That app sounds like a good idea. I know what you mean about the drive time. The zone they offered me was a 3 hour drive from side to side. If one yard was an hour out of they way like you mentioned, it would be $25+ in vehicle gas. I would guess the standard mowing rate is around $30? Other than the huge zone it seems like a good opportunity.

Mar 18, 2014#50

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dereklawncare

jekjr said:
I just wish I could get to work with them. All I get is "I will tell the recruiter to contact you". But she does not call or e mail.

I would guess that they already have a subcontractor for your area. The less people on their payroll the easier it is for them. You could maybe ask them for the subcontractors contact information to see if they need help.

Mar 18, 2014#51

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honestblades

I had a bad experience cutting grass for them down here in Baldwin county, Al. Someone subbed the work out to me. But then again all of them are a pain including Fannie mae, Freddy Mac, cypress,etc. I Pm'd you bud.

Mar 18, 2014#52

Carscw

honestblades said:
I had a bad experience cutting grass for them down here in Baldwin county, Al. But then again all of them are a pain including Fannie mae, Freddy Mac, cypress,etc

When you get the zones that no one else wants they kinda leave you alone and are not so picky.

I got 5 initial cuts today that are 10 days past due. Because a vender did not do them.

Not sure how we are going to get all our yards done. We are up to 274 a month starting April 1st.

Mar 18, 2014#53

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honestblades

Most people sub them out and pay the sub $25-$35 per yard.... But it's hard to get someone to fire up their expensive equipment for a cheap price, not to mention make them take a bunch of before and after pictures and then at the end of a hot day tell them that they have to upload the pictures to their computer and mail them to you. Every time I have cut yards for a vendor they have found my ad on craigslist... Hint hint

Mar 18, 2014#54

Carscw

honestblades said:
Most people sub them out and pay the sub $25-$35 per yard.... But it's hard to get someone to fire up their expensive equipment for a cheap price, not to mention make them take a bunch of before and after pictures and then at the end of a hot day tell them that they have to upload the pictures to their computer and mail them to you. Every time I have cut yards for a vendor they have found my ad on craigslist... Hint hint

I sub out a lot of work. Been doing this for many years. Just went back to Safegaurd for my third time.

You only need 20 pics at the most per yard.
And all subs can now upload from their smart phones right to the vender web.
I can find 20 guys a day that say they will cut yards. Maybe one will be worth a sh it

This work is not for everyone. If you do it right you can make a lot of cash.

After doing my books for last year. Adding up every expense gas, buying new equipment and maintenance on equipment it cost me $16 to make $100
I know guys that can not even break even. It's the $400 a month truck payment
The two $6000 mowers
The $300 trimmers and blowers.

And then spend to much time using a trimmer on hills because their $6000 ztr won't hang hills.

Mar 18, 2014#55

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honestblades

My biggest issue was there being some yards that might be a 60 mile round trip from other yards ( mainly stuff in the country) and then I had some issues with getting paid on time. I've worked for 4 contractors that worked for safeguard AND other companies. I've been smart and never bought a brand new vehicle and I never will. I worked alone, and I only own 1 zero turn. All of my equipment is paid for. It depends on how many yards the contractor has for you really. I ran into one contractor that decided he could only pay the subs once a month..... That was a deal breaker. It's a hit or miss..... You just have to get lucky and get set up with yards that are somewhat close to you.

Mar 18, 2014#56

Carscw

honestblades said:
My biggest issue was there being some yards that might be a 60 mile round trip from other yards ( mainly stuff in the country) and then I had some issues with getting paid on time. I've worked for 4 contractors that worked for safeguard AND other companies. I've been smart and never bought a brand new vehicle and I never will. I worked alone, and I only own 1 zero turn. All of my equipment is paid for. It depends on how many yards the contractor has for you really. I ran into one contractor that decided he could only pay the subs once a month..... That was a deal breaker. It's a hit or miss..... You just have to get lucky and get set up with yards that are somewhat close to you.

My subs get paid every Friday for the work they did that week. My week starts on Thursday and ends on Wednesday.

As a contractor you need to have the cash flow to pay your subs.

I bet they paid him extra for the yards that where 60 miles out. They are very good about paying extra.

I do not use ZTRs I find they are no good in the rain or on hills.
Out here in the country most yards will have road side ditch that stay wet.

Man it is so much easier with two people.
One does the mowing the other does the pics and trimming. My wife takes the pics as she trims. I load up as she takes the after pics. A third person just gets in the way.

When I first started I was a sub waited 30 days for my first pay and the guy gave me $200 The judge made me go to anger management classes.

Mar 18, 2014#57

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honestblades

I don't have hills to worry about down here in Alabama. I can get in my truck right now, head south, and in 30 minutes be looking at the Gulf of Mexico. The person that wanted to pay once a month worked for more than just safeguard, and each company has their own special bs list of pictures. It was a female too!! There's more to the stories I have to tell but it's too much to type. I know a good bit about the foreclosure business. Before I started cutting grass for these companies I worked for a mortgage company one winter foreclosing houses, insurance inspections, maintenance ( changing locks), winterizing houses, etc.

Mar 23, 2014#58

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dereklawncare

I was figuring about $300 for general liability insurance? I don't have any employees.

I'm planning on 40-60 foreclosures along with 15 residential properties. I'm not trying to make a career out of mowing, just looking to do it for a year or two. I priced a 2014 Toro Titan ZX 4800 for $4,700. Do you guys think this mower will be tough enough?

Carcw, you said you signed up for 70 properties, have you found that that 70 grows closer to 100 as the season goes on? Just trying to figure out how many properties I'm going to tell them I want.

Mar 23, 2014#59

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
I was figuring about $300 for general liability insurance? I don't have any employees. I'm planning on 40-60 foreclosures along with 15 residential properties. I'm not trying to make a career out of mowing, just looking to do it for a year or two. I priced a 2014 Toro Titan ZX 4800 for $4,700. Do you guys think this mower will be tough enough? Carcw, you said you signed up for 70 properties, have you found that that 70 grows closer to 100 as the season goes on? Just trying to figure out how many properties I'm going to tell them I want.

We are at 150 every two weeks right now

Mar 23, 2014#60

jekjr

Carscw said:
We are at 150 every two weeks right now

I still never heard anything else. I calld the number. They asked me if I had talked to anybody I gave them the name. They said they would give a message and that was the end of it. I sure would have loved to get that 100+ properties. However after this experience I do not know. It amazes me that a company of that size would operate that way.

Mar 24, 2014#61

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LoCo86

jekjr said:
I still never heard anything else. I calld the number. They asked me if I had talked to anybody I gave them the name. They said they would give a message and that was the end of it. I sure would have loved to get that 100+ properties. However after this experience I do not know. It amazes me that a company of that size would operate that way.

They've probably moved on to the next guy. Sometimes you have to make snap decisions then and there. Well it's a tough break but something else may come up.

Mar 24, 2014#62

exotion

You asked to many questions.

Mar 28, 2014#63

jekjr

They called me back today. I am the only one they are recruiting for my zone right now.

Mar 28, 2014#64

jekjr

Carscw said:
We just signed back on with them got first job today. Was told when we did the phone interview that they have 77 work orders past due.
Things have changed with them since I was a vender 2 years ago.
Make sure you read the documents they send you so you know what to bid on and what is normal. And how the price on grass cuts work.

The pics they want are very simple but make sure you get every one they want.

Safegaurd is a very good company to work for they pay on time and are very easy to get along with.

If you have any questions about anything let me know.

Don't let the initial grass cuts stress you out. Get a yard stick to show how tall the grass is do you get the over a foot pay.

And get ready to work a lot.

I tried to message you but your box is full and you can't receive any messages or that is what the prompt said?

I got a call back from that recruiter today. They are sending me e paperwork. If I understand correctly there will be over 100 properties in my zone. Will I have a person that I communicate with or is it just a computer generated system?

Mar 28, 2014#65

Carscw

jekjr said:
They called me back today. I am the only one they are recruiting for my zone right now.

Cool. You going to be a busy man.

We have been having problems with their iPhone app. They say it is being worked on.

Mar 28, 2014#66

Carscw

jekjr said:
I tried to message you but your box is full and you can't receive any messages or that is what the prompt said? I got a call back from that recruiter today. They are sending me e paperwork. If I understand correctly there will be over 100 properties in my zone. Will I have a person that I communicate with or is it just a computer generated system?

You will have a regional manager that you will deal with.

Mar 28, 2014#67

jekjr

Carscw said:
You will have a regional manager that you will deal with.

E-mail me jek_jr@yahoo.com I have some questions you could probably answer better than anybody else....

Mar 28, 2014#68

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dereklawncare

Carscw said:
You will have a regional manager that you will deal with.

Nice job. Getting an interview to go through with a recruiter can be like pulling teeth! I'm not worried yet, I don't think there's a lot of competition in my zone. I think the recruiter for my zone is on vacation!

Mar 28, 2014#69

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Nice job. Getting an interview to go through with a recruiter can be like pulling teeth! I'm not worried yet, I don't think there's a lot of competition in my zone. I think the recruiter for my zone is on vacation!

Where are you at?

There was 2 in my zone. We have been getting a lot of over due work orders. I guess the other guy can not keep up.

Mar 28, 2014#70

Carscw

A few years ago we had 4 zones in Alabama it was crazy. Would get to the first one as the sun came up and left the last one when it was to dark to take a pic. 7 days a week for 4 months.

Apr 10, 2014#71

Carscw

Just got 72 more yards that's someone else did not get done.

Apr 11, 2014#72

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dereklawncare

Nice! Are all 72 due on the same day!?

Apr 11, 2014#73

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Nice! Are all 72 due on the same day!?

They are a week late when I got them. I have till the 15th

Apr 11, 2014#74

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dereklawncare

You will be busy! I start next week. I've been playing around with photo direct, does the time stamp only show up once you submit the pic to vendor mobile?

Apr 11, 2014#75

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
You will be busy! I start next week. I've been playing around with photo direct, does the time stamp only show up once you submit the pic to vendor mobile?

I assume it does because I don't see a time or date when the pics are in the gallery.

We have had problems with it not doing a full transmit and will use up all your storage

Apr 11, 2014#76

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dereklawncare

Yeah it looks like they need to work out a few kinks before it's mandatory. The little Ive played around with it has force quit frequently. Do you just take pics with an actual camera and download them on your computer when you have problems with the app?

Apr 11, 2014#77

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Yeah it looks like they need to work out a few kinks before it's mandatory. The little Ive played around with it has force quit frequently. Do you just take pics with an actual camera and download them on your computer when you have problems with the app?

Just make sure the camera does a date and time stamp.
Find someone to do the vender web for you at $1 a house. Just give them the SD card everyday.

Apr 11, 2014#78

Carscw

We delete the app and reinstall it every couple days

Apr 13, 2014#79

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dereklawncare

Carscw, the grass hasn't started growing up here in the frozen tunrda. They still want me to start this week. What do you recommend I do if I arrive at a property and the grass is under 2.5 inches?

Apr 13, 2014#80

exotion

Cut it at 2" and mulch it'll make it look clean and groomed and you get paid

Apr 13, 2014#81

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dereklawncare

That's what I figured. I mentioned something to the recruiter and she said "there's always something to be cut!"

Apr 13, 2014#82

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Carscw, the grass hasn't started growing up here in the frozen tunrda. They still want me to start this week. What do you recommend I do if I arrive at a property and the grass is under 2.5 inches?

Cut it.

If I get to a yard and the guy next door cut it down to half a inch I cut it.

As long as you have pics of you mowing all 4 sides of the house your good.

When it's short is a good time to stripe it out.

I got a initial cut weeds was over my head. Destroyed a new set of blades. Did not bend them but took some good chunks out of them. Left them on and did 23 more initial cuts.

I hit one rock was the size of a softball I bet it went 50 feet. Wrapped a blanket around the blades.
Most times when I get a yard like that I will ride the yard with the blades off to lay the grass down.

Apr 13, 2014#83

Carscw

Here are two from today

Can't make them all look perfect just a lot better.

My old husqvarna 2448 has been working hard.

Apr 13, 2014#84

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dereklawncare

I bet you made some good $! I'll probably take them up on the rental equipment deal if I ever get an initial cut with saplings. Do you just use your husqvarna 2448 for initial cuts?

Apr 13, 2014#85

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
I bet you made some good $! I'll probably take them up on the rental equipment deal if I ever get an initial cut with saplings. Do you just use your husqvarna 2448 for initial cuts?

All I have been using this year is the husqvarna it's tough I chop up saplings mulch bush/shrub clippings hit rocks and other things then go stripe a nice yard with it.

Going to give the snapper walk behind a try next week.

Apr 14, 2014#86

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dereklawncare

I just got my vendor page. It doesn't have any work orders, should I call them or did yours take a couple days?

Apr 14, 2014#87

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
I just got my vendor page. It doesn't have any work orders, should I call them or did yours take a couple days?

It will take a couple days. Maybe get one or two then bang when you think you have a day off 50 orders come in.

I still have 25 due tomorrow. All initial cuts and it's raining so sitting home.

Apr 14, 2014#88

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dereklawncare

You'll be busy! Lets say you have a thunderstorm tomorrow, you just call your regional coordinator and give them the date you'll complete them, right?

I've got some conference call I have to attend tomorrow or Thursday.

Apr 14, 2014#89

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
You'll be busy! Lets say you have a thunderstorm tomorrow, you just call your regional coordinator and give them the date you'll complete them, right? I've got some conference call I have to attend tomorrow or Thursday.

You will get yards after the webinar.
You can go into vender web and change the due date on orders you get If it's raining or bad storms.

Apr 14, 2014#90

jekjr

I dealt with the recruiter. Then I finally got her to contact me back after I had been advertising like crazy and pickd up more work. I decided I am not going to take the Safegurad work. I tried hard to get it but if I took it now I would be a month behind. I would have to drive 90 plus miles to cut some of the grass and it is more grass than I can manage with the clientele I now already have. $35 for up to an acre 90 miles from home and the possibility of being charged back if we get behind and they have to pay for an emergency cut to catch up is a little too much for me. I would like to have 100 to 125 cuts a month. The recruiter told me up from that the zone we are in would have over 200 cuts a month. We already are getting close to 75 or 80. I think I am going to keep advertising and work closer to home.

It was a hard decision for me to pass on but I did not want to bite off more than I could chew. As far as we would have to drive I finally decided not to take it. I might apply again next year.

Apr 14, 2014#91

Carscw

90 miles from home for one cut is to far.
I have been lucky I have 30 within 10 miles of me.

Apr 15, 2014#92

jekjr

Code:

Carscw said:
90 miles from home for one cut is to far.
I have been lucky I have 30 within 10 miles of me.

More than likely it would be more than one cut. If I lived closer to the middle of the zone I would have had to jump on it. However I basically live in a corner of the zone and it is 70 to 90 miles to the other corners.

I would have had to buy their approved liability insurance which is much higher than mine. I understand.

The distance, $35 per cut, the fact that I could be charged if we could not get it all done, and the fact that it was all or nothing were the deciding factors.

If I had been doing that kind of work long enough to understand the company and know how to work with them it might have been different. Just to sign up in over 100 properties scattered that far that were going to be over a month behind was just more than I wanted to jump on.

Apr 16, 2014#93

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dereklawncare

Carscw said:
You will get yards after the webinar.
You can go into vender web and change the due date on orders you get If it's raining or bad storms.

So when you got 70 initial cuts and they were all due in a week. You don't have to do them all within 48 hours of the due date because they are initial cuts, right? You just need to get them cut anytime before the due date.

During the webinar yesterday they said that you should't be using the photo direct app. Use vendor web mobile to take pictures.

Apr 16, 2014#94

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
So when you got 70 initial cuts and they were all due in a week. You don't have to do them all within 48 hours of the due date because they are initial cuts, right? You just need to get them cut anytime before the due date. During the webinar yesterday they said that you should't be using the photo direct app. Use vendor web mobile to take pictures.

If you get them before the due date then just do them before the due date.
If you get them after the due date then do them as soon as you can.
Most of out initial cuts we get are already past due when we get them.
If you have to use a camera because the app is not working. Take 2 extra front pics and a extra back pic.

Apr 30, 2014#95

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dereklawncare

I've only gotten 8 work orders... I don't know that Safeguard has the volume that they claimed to have had!? I was told there are 200 in my zone. I've tried calling my regional grass cut director numerous times but he's never answered! I'll give them till tomorrow just to make sure that some of the properties don't start until May 1. If not I'll be telling them to pack sand. 8 properties scattered across 6 counties isn't worth it. I've been doing work for them for 3 weeks now.

Apr 30, 2014#96

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
I've only gotten 8 work orders... I don't know that Safeguard has the volume that they claimed to have had!? I was told there are 200 in my zone. I've tried calling my regional grass cut director numerous times but he's never answered! I'll give them till tomorrow just to make sure that some of the properties don't start until May 1. If not I'll be telling them to pack sand. 8 properties scattered across 6 counties isn't worth it. I've been doing work for them for 3 weeks now.

Man that sux.
Send out a few emails
We can not get a day off

May 1, 2014#97

BHLC

They called to recruit us, $35 flat rate up to 1acre up to 1' tall, covering the northern half of VT. Drive 2hours across the state for on $35 lawn! No thank you.told them to pound sand!

May 1, 2014#98

exotion

BHLC said:
They called to recruit us, $35 flat rate up to 1acre up to 1' tall, covering the northern half of VT. Drive 2hours across the state for on $35 lawn! No thank you.told them to pound sand!

Hope you didn't actually say that. No I wouldn't tale that job either but I hope professionalism and tact was used

May 1, 2014#99

BHLC

exotion said:
Hope you didn't actually say that. No I wouldn't tale that job either but I hope professionalism and tact was used

Really? It's an insult to even ask me to go that far for $35

May 1, 2014#100

Carscw

BHLC said:
They called to recruit us, $35 flat rate up to 1acre up to 1' tall, covering the northern half of VT. Drive 2hours across the state for on $35 lawn! No thank you.told them to pound sand!

I agree would not go that far.

Some of our yards are a hour away.
But we do 10 yards on the way there.

I don't think I have ever cut a full acre and most my yards are over 2 acres. I cut around the house about 30 feet and bid the rest.

May 5, 2014#101

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dereklawncare

I've been having to whine to them to get a few more properties! Apparently there is a vendor with a cap of 500 properties in my area, so he's getting most of them... would have been nice to know that lol. I've been emailing the regional coordinator and he's slowly given me a few more, I'm at around 10. Still 40 off from what I wanted but I'll take what I can get.

Is number on the invoice the money that I receive, or is that what they get?

May 5, 2014#102

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dereklawncare

Most of my properties are small but seem to have fences with like a 40" gate.. Good thing I still have my ole' 38" john deere tractor. I haven't even been bring my 48" zero turn to these because of all the small gates.

Man, I'm glad I'm not the guy who has to clean out the homes! Some of them are sketchy, I don't want to know what's all been in those!

May 5, 2014#103

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Most of my properties are small but seem to have fences with like a 40" gate.. Good thing I still have my ole' 38" john deere tractor. I haven't even been bring my 48" zero turn to these because of all the small gates. Man, I'm glad I'm not the guy who has to clean out the homes! Some of them are sketchy, I don't want to know what's all been in those!

I only run my 48
There is always a way to get in.
On chain link I roll a spot back and drive on in.

Man doing the trash outs is where the big money is. You get paid to remove everything then you have a yard sale.

I agree some houses are just nasty and you know they lived in them like that.

I got lucky this weekend and did a trash out. Guy had a full shop out back. My guess is after I sell everything I don't keep I will make $5000 took a day.

May 5, 2014#104

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Most of my properties are small but seem to have fences with like a 40" gate.. Good thing I still have my ole' 38" john deere tractor. I haven't even been bring my 48" zero turn to these because of all the small gates. Man, I'm glad I'm not the guy who has to clean out the homes! Some of them are sketchy, I don't want to know what's all been in those!

You get the agreed on price.
Now some will pay more if over size.
We don't change the price on the invoice sometimes they pay it.
Up your cap to 200 and sub out what you can not do. Keep $5 to $10 for yourself each yard.

May 5, 2014#105

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dereklawncare

I like the way you think with the fences! lol

I'll have to consider being the clean out guy! Changing the locks would be an easy job. I see there's a lot of money put into some of the properties for mold and water damage too.

Jun 3, 2014#106

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dereklawncare

Things have been going pretty good. I've done 80 cuts for safeguard so far. I might take on the whole zone next year.

The bean counters said that two of my work orders didn't have the required pictures and didn't pay me. I might dispute one because I didn't provide an address verification photo, I think just took a pic of the front of the house..? Have you ever disputed? I don't want to piss them off and go through the rest of my invoices with a find tooth comb.

Also, what do you if you arrive at a farm that's over an acre? I tried to submit a bid but I never heard anything back.. I've just been cutting 30 yards on each side of the house.

Jun 3, 2014#107

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Things have been going pretty good. I've done 80 cuts for safeguard so far. I might take on the whole zone next year. The bean counters said that two of my work orders didn't have the required pictures and didn't pay me. I might dispute one because I didn't provide an address verification photo, I think just took a pic of the front of the house..? Have you ever disputed? I don't want to piss them off and go through the rest of my invoices with a find tooth comb. Also, what do you if you arrive at a farm that's over an acre? I tried to submit a bid but I never heard anything back.. I've just been cutting 30 yards on each side of the house.

I just cut around the house. Bid the rest. Sometimes you will get to cut it all most times not.

Get on to them about paying.
I did one that was 4 foot tall forgot the after pic of the height. They said no pay. I told them can you not see it was cut.
Keep on them they will pay it

Jun 3, 2014#108

jekjr

dereklawncare said:
Things have been going pretty good. I've done 80 cuts for safeguard so far. I might take on the whole zone next year. The bean counters said that two of my work orders didn't have the required pictures and didn't pay me. I might dispute one because I didn't provide an address verification photo, I think just took a pic of the front of the house..? Have you ever disputed? I don't want to piss them off and go through the rest of my invoices with a find tooth comb. Also, what do you if you arrive at a farm that's over an acre? I tried to submit a bid but I never heard anything back.. I've just been cutting 30 yards on each side of the house.

I wanted to cut for them. According to the recruiter they had 100 plus cuts in the zone I was supposed to get. The distance was too much for me and the fact that there were too many things in the contract I did not want to agree to. One thing was if we got behind we could be charged for somebody else cutting it. We were told we had to take it all and needed two crews.

I honestly think the recruiter was clueless. To start off with she told us we had to bag ALL trimmings as well.

Jun 3, 2014#109

Carscw

jekjr said:
I wanted to cut for them. According to the recruiter they had 100 plus cuts in the zone I was supposed to get. The distance was too much for me and the fact that there were too many things in the contract I did not want to agree to. One thing was if we got behind we could be charged for somebody else cutting it. We were told we had to take it all and needed two crews. I honestly think the recruiter was clueless. To start off with she told us we had to bag ALL trimmings as well.

What sucks is when you get yards that are already days late because someone else did not do them. They gave me 30 yards that was already late then sent me a email saying I had to get them done in 2 days plus still do the yards that I already had. I told them I would get to them when I could.

I took the next day off.
Ended up with 21 of my yards late by 3 days. Again got a email saying I would get a charge back. I said you charge me back any yards I won't do anymore work. 3 hours later got 16 more yards. I think I been getting a lot of yards because some guy is late all the time and sprays roundup a foot away from anything that you would trim around.

The thing is is I map out for the next 4 days then they send 20 more yards and want them done today. I just add them in if they are on the way to what I have mapped out.
In April I did 47 initial cuts they have the recuts to someone else. Send one email and they gave all the yards back saying it was a mix up.

As long as they know you are getting them done as best you can they are happy.

Just some FYI they only look at your invoice and pics if the computer kicks it back.

The thing with a yard being a hour away from home is you won't just do that one you do five going to it and five on the way back home.

And I gave up using the iPhone app

Jun 3, 2014#110

J

Jrleddy

How long did it take you guys to get a response from safeguard once you filled out the application?

Jun 3, 2014#111

Carscw

Jrleddy said:
How long did it take you guys to get a response from safeguard once you filled out the application?

Should be within a week

Jun 5, 2014#112

jekjr

The thing with a yard being a hour away from home is you won't just do that one you do five going to it and five on the way back home. [/QUOTE] I would have been looking at possibility of come yards a lot more than an hour from home.

In fact over 2 hours from home I. Three different directions.

Jun 5, 2014#113

jekjr

jekjr said:
The thing with a yard being a hour away from home is you won't just do that one you do five going to it and five on the way back home.

I would have been looking at possibility of come yards a lot more than an hour from home.[/QUOTE] in fact over 2 hours from home in three directions.

Jun 5, 2014#114

Carscw

jekjr said:
I would have been looking at possibility of come yards a lot more than an hour from home.

in fact over 2 hours from home in three directions.[/QUOTE]

2 hours is to far

You would think they would cut the zone in half.

Jun 6, 2014#115

jekjr

Carscw said:
in fact over 2 hours from home in three directions.

2 hours is to far You would think they would cut the zone in half.[/QUOTE]

A lot of stuff I saw did not make sense.

Jun 10, 2014#116

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dereklawncare

I received an email yesterday from safeguard saying that my account was going to be deactivated in 72 hours. There was no explanation and it said to contact my regional director who is dominic busi and I cannot get ahold of him. I called him 3 times and sent him two emails in the last 2 days and have not heard a word from him

I called Safeguard multiple times to try to figure out why my account was being deactivated and all the recruiter would say was that it was because of low volume. I have 38 properties through them and have tried to get more. I wanted to get some experience with them this year and possibly take on the whole zone next year.

If I don't hear back before my account gets deactivated at 10:30 am we are going to have some problems. Unbelievable

Jun 10, 2014#117

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
I received an email yesterday from safeguard saying that my account was going to be deactivated in 72 hours. There was no explanation and it said to contact my regional director who is dominic busi and I cannot get ahold of him. I called him 3 times and sent him two emails in the last 2 days and have not heard a word from him I called Safeguard multiple times to try to figure out why my account was being deactivated and all the recruiter would say was that it was because of low volume. I have 38 properties through them and have tried to get more. I wanted to get some experience with them this year and possibly take on the whole zone next year. If I don't hear back before my account gets deactivated at 10:30 am we are going to have some problems. Unbelievable

Call the recruiter back and tell them to raise your cap to 200 and that you have 2 crews.

Jun 10, 2014#118

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dereklawncare

Carscw said:
Call the recruiter back and tell them to raise your cap to 200 and that you have 2 crews.

Worth a shot! I'll try it in the morning!

If I were them, I'd treat someone who knows the lock codes for 38 properties a little better! Not that I'm that kind of person lol

Jun 10, 2014#119

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Worth a shot! I'll try it in the morning! If I were them, I'd treat someone who knows the lock codes for 38 properties a little better! Not that I'm that kind of person lol

They don't think.

I have master keys for every HUD home in the country.

The only thing I have ever removed from a home is trimmer line.

Safegaurd rule a couple years ago was you can take anything that is in the yard that you would have to move to do the grass cut.

Jun 12, 2014#120

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dereklawncare

I spent a lot of time on the phone today. By the end of the day I called someone and they said that the deactivation on my account was no longer there! So as far as I know it's all straightened out, what a headache!

What type of work do you do besides trash out and grass cuts?

I'll listen to the photo direct phone conference when I have time. I've had some problems with it. Are you attending the REO conference call? I'll listen in on Friday.

Jun 23, 2014#121

Carscw

Got a QC today for leaves under the shrubs. Went out to the home and could not find any shrubs

And now they want us to start spraying weeds in the flower beds. Ha ha not going to happen.

Jun 23, 2014#122

Carscw

Last year got a QC to clean out the gutters. This was for A2Z got to the house it had no gutters.

The people that do the inspections have never really done any kind of work ever.

Jun 24, 2014#123

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dereklawncare

Sounds about right lol. Hey, those inspectors work real hard.. sometimes they have to get out of the car to take the picture!!!

I didn't hear about the spraying gardens yet. Ya, not gonna happen.. unless they pay more $$$. During the conference last week they said to avoid using excessive week killer. If properties do not have a reasonable commit date after 3 days they will be reassigned. Oh, and be careful when urinating at the property because neighbors are complaining! What a joke

I bid $600 on this

Jun 28, 2014#124

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dereklawncare

Got my QC today. What BS. Pic #5 is gonna be a bottle of Aquafina poured that on the weeds.

1. 2 Photos of the lawn being mowed - 1 in the front yard, 1 in the
back yard
2. 1 Photo of weed eating along foundation
3. 1 Photo of weed eating along fence line
4. 1 Photo of edging activities (show partially done)
5. 1 Photo of weed spraying activities (where applicable)

Jun 28, 2014#125

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Got my QC today. What BS. Pic #5 is gonna be a bottle of Aquafina poured that on the weeds. 1. 2 Photos of the lawn being mowed - 1 in the front yard, 1 in the back yard 2. 1 Photo of weed eating along foundation 3. 1 Photo of weed eating along fence line 4. 1 Photo of edging activities (show partially done) 5. 1 Photo of weed spraying activities (where applicable)

I did not want to spend money on weed killer.

But I did and been spraying the fence lines.
Hate trimming chain link fence.

We have a new inspector on the REO side.
He QC me on every yard to spray every flower bed.

And was told can not edge with a trimmer. They want to see a edger blade.
They about to get their feelings hurt.

Jun 29, 2014#126

jekjr

Carscw said:
I did not want to spend money on weed killer.

But I did and been spraying the fence lines.
Hate trimming chain link fence.

We have a new inspector on the REO side.
He QC me on every yard to spray every flower bed.

And was told can not edge with a trimmer. They want to see a edger blade.
They about to get their feelings hurt.

That is part of the reason I did not take the zone with Safeguard. That recruiter lady I talked to was unrealistic.

You can buy glyphosate in 2 1/2 gallon jugs much cheaper than Roundup. It works great.

Jun 29, 2014#127

Carscw

jekjr said:
That is part of the reason I did not take the zone with Safeguard. That recruiter lady I talked to was unrealistic. You can buy glyphosate in 2 1/2 gallon jugs much cheaper than Roundup. It works great.

And your zone is toooooo big.

Jun 29, 2014#128

jekjr

Carscw said:
And your zone is toooooo big.

Yep waaayyy big and then dealing with that recruiter. I could not see me jumping on that.

Jun 29, 2014#129

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dereklawncare

jekjr said:
Yep waaayyy big and then dealing with that recruiter. I could not see me jumping on that.

I here ya! Getting my interview to go through was tuff. Even now that I work for them I have very hard time contacting my regional director. Very frustrating. Checks are nice though

Where I live all of the towns are spread out. One city has 30,000... the rest have less than 4,000. The zone is 90 miles east to west, 60 miles north to south. Safeguard said that they could split it in half for grass cuts if no one could take on the whole zone.

Jul 14, 2014#130

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dereklawncare

Are you able to log into vendor web?

Jul 14, 2014#131

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dereklawncare

dereklawncare said:
Are you able to log into vendor web?

Password was expired

Feb 3, 2015#132

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dereklawncare

Ended up making good $$$$$ from SG. Had a couple headeaches here and there but ended up fine in the end. I'm planning on having one truck/employee just doing P&P cuts this year. I'm gonna figure on him doing about 60 per week.? How do you pay your guy's, by the job or hour? I was hoping to hire a respectful college kid I've known for years for $12/hour.

Getting insurance quotes this week... WOW! The first one I got was $1400 and they won't even cover my local residentials.. Which of the 3 insurance agency's did you go with?

Feb 4, 2015#133

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
Ended up making good $$$$$ from SG. Had a couple headeaches here and there but ended up fine in the end. I'm planning on having one truck/employee just doing P&P cuts this year. I'm gonna figure on him doing about 60 per week.? How do you pay your guy's, by the job or hour? I was hoping to hire a respectful college kid I've known for years for $12/hour. Getting insurance quotes this week... WOW! The first one I got was $1400 and they won't even cover my local residentials.. Which of the 3 insurance agency's did you go with?

Pay by the job. Sub them out to someone that has their own equipment. If you get $40 per yard give them $30 per yard.

I kept the Insurance I had. I never switched to one of the three.

Do you just do p&p ?

Sent from my iPhone using LMF

Feb 4, 2015#134

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dereklawncare

Carscw said:
Pay by the job. Sub them out to someone that has their own equipment. If you get $40 per yard give them $30 per yard.

I kept the Insurance I had. I never switched to one of the three.

Do you just do p&p ?

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I did some REO last year but I found it to be a pain. If I need more properties once the season begins I'll call the REO regional. Our P&P cuts end 10-31 and REO goes until snow flies. So in November it equals out to driving 150 miles to mow 6 properties. I also didn't like the weekly cuts on some of the REO, threw a wrench into my routes. I should probably just take them this year and try to find a local subcontractor to do REO.

How'd you swing the insurance? I got my pick of any carrier last year because it was my first year, but was told this year I had to pick out of the 3. I mentioned I wasn't happy about that and they said to talk to the VP, but it was doubtful he'd approve it.

Feb 4, 2015#135

Carscw

dereklawncare said:
I did some REO last year but I found it to be a pain. If I need more properties once the season begins I'll call the REO regional. Our P&P cuts end 10-31 and REO goes until snow flies. So in November it equals out to driving 150 miles to mow 6 properties. I also didn't like the weekly cuts on some of the REO, threw a wrench into my routes. I should probably just take them this year and try to find a local subcontractor to do REO. How'd you swing the insurance? I got my pick of any carrier last year because it was my first year, but was told this year I had to pick out of the 3. I mentioned I wasn't happy about that and they said to talk to the VP, but it was doubtful he'd approve it.

I just ignore the insurance.

I am not going to pay double the price.

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