When you get a spark tester, get the Briggs and Stratton or Oregon tester that has a gap for the spark to jump.Have not tried spark tester yet, but did disconnect the kill wire and no change to symptoms.
Another thought came to mind... loosen the muffler slightly and see it will try to keep running. Why?Tried with 2 different spark testers. One was the light-up type, one was a gap-type (although not B&S or Oregon). Both showed spark until the engine died. in other words I could not see any diminished spark prior to the engine dying. I will try replacing the fuel supply line and fuel filter tomorrow (although I did run an earlier test to with my vacuum pump to show that I could pull fuel up through the filter/line by applying a mild vacuum). One other test I ran was to pump the primer bulb as the engine began to sputter in the hope that if engine were fuel starved that this would keep it running, but that was not the case.
Compression is low for a 2-stroke if you are using a proper compression tester for small engines (Schraeder valve). You have spent a lot of time on this Ryobi turd trimmer. If you can’t get it running, move on to real equipment.Trying to repair a Ryobi RY253SS 2-cycle trimmer. Starts up fine, runs for ~10 seconds and dies. It dies regardless of whether full/no-choke, full/no-throttle. Restarts right away, but exhibits same behavior (which leads me to think not an electrical issue). Here is what I've done:
- New 50:1 fuel in tank
- Dry compression: 80 psi
- Wet compression after dripping some oil into cylinder: 120 psi (so some leakage around rings? would this explain symptoms?)
- Cleaned passages in carb, gaskets/diaphragms seem in reasonable shape
- Intake and exhaust gaskets look fine
- Applied 10 psi pressure to carburetor fuel intake pipe and it holds steady
- Applied vacuum to fuel inlet tube going to tank, and it sucks up fuel, so no obvious obstructions in tube or fuel-filter
- Cleaned some carbon buildup from exhaust port
- Pressure tested crankcase: holds steady at 10 psi
- Vacuum tested crankcase: holds steady at 15 in Hg, returns to 15 when I rotate engine
Only adjustment on carb is throttle idle screw. Might be possible to adjust the needle on the barrel-valve of the carb, but looks like a special tool may be needed.
Would appreciate any ideas of what to try next.
I agree. This is now mainly turning into a learning exercise as I try to figure out what's wrong.Compression is low for a 2-stroke if you are using a proper compression tester for small engines (Schraeder valve). You have spent a lot of time on this Ryobi turd trimmer. If you can’t get it running, move on to real equipment.
You need to be able to adjust the carburetor. If it will start and idle for about 10 seconds, it could be as simple as a carburetor adjustment. Increase idle screw temporarily and try to adjust high and low screws. Sometimes you can take an electrical crimp connector with hard plastic cover and heat it up and hold it on the screw until it cools to form the threads.Tried with 2 different spark testers. One was the light-up type, one was a gap-type (although not B&S or Oregon). Both showed spark until the engine died. in other words I could not see any diminished spark prior to the engine dying. I will try replacing the fuel supply line and fuel filter tomorrow (although I did run an earlier test to with my vacuum pump to show that I could pull fuel up through the filter/line by applying a mild vacuum). One other test I ran was to pump the primer bulb when the engine began to sputter in the hope that if it were fuel starved that this would keep it running, but that was not the case.
I agree. This is now mainly turning into a learning exercise as I try to figure out what's wrong.
Unfortunately this barrel-valve carb (see Amazon page here for photos of what carb looks like) has no high/low adjustment. As per suggestion from an earlier post I did loosen exhaust, but no change.You need to be able to adjust the carburetor. If it will start and idle for about 10 seconds, it could be as simple as a carburetor adjustment. Increase idle screw temporarily and try to adjust high and low screws. Sometimes you can take an electrical crimp connector with hard plastic cover and heat it up and hold it on the screw until it cools to form the threads.
I always use starting fluid without an air filter to keep it running when I don’t know if it’s air, spark or fuel. My experience says it’s your fuel filter.Trying to repair a Ryobi RY253SS 2-cycle trimmer. Starts up fine, runs for ~10 seconds and dies. It dies regardless of whether full/no-choke, full/no-throttle. Restarts right away, but exhibits same behavior (which leads me to think not an electrical issue). Here is what I've done:
- New 50:1 fuel in tank
- Dry compression: 80 psi
- Wet compression after dripping some oil into cylinder: 120 psi (so some leakage around rings? would this explain symptoms?)
- Cleaned passages in carb, gaskets/diaphragms seem in reasonable shape
- Intake and exhaust gaskets look fine
- Applied 10 psi pressure to carburetor fuel intake pipe and it holds steady
- Applied vacuum to fuel inlet tube going to tank, and it sucks up fuel, so no obvious obstructions in tube or fuel-filter
- Cleaned some carbon buildup from exhaust port
- Pressure tested crankcase: holds steady at 10 psi
- Vacuum tested crankcase: holds steady at 15 in Hg, returns to 15 when I rotate engine
Only adjustment on carb is throttle idle screw. Might be possible to adjust the needle on the barrel-valve of the carb, but looks like a special tool may be needed.
Would appreciate any ideas of what to try next.
Got mud daubers? Check the exhaust can. A possibility....not the possibility.Trying to repair a Ryobi RY253SS 2-cycle trimmer. Starts up fine, runs for ~10 seconds and dies. It dies regardless of whether full/no-choke, full/no-throttle. Restarts right away, but exhibits same behavior (which leads me to think not an electrical issue). Here is what I've done:
- New 50:1 fuel in tank
- Dry compression: 80 psi
- Wet compression after dripping some oil into cylinder: 120 psi (so some leakage around rings? would this explain symptoms?)
- Cleaned passages in carb, gaskets/diaphragms seem in reasonable shape
- Intake and exhaust gaskets look fine
- Applied 10 psi pressure to carburetor fuel intake pipe and it holds steady
- Applied vacuum to fuel inlet tube going to tank, and it sucks up fuel, so no obvious obstructions in tube or fuel-filter
- Cleaned some carbon buildup from exhaust port
- Pressure tested crankcase: holds steady at 10 psi
- Vacuum tested crankcase: holds steady at 15 in Hg, returns to 15 when I rotate engine
Only adjustment on carb is throttle idle screw. Might be possible to adjust the needle on the barrel-valve of the carb, but looks like a special tool may be needed.
Would appreciate any ideas of what to try next.
I just go on ebay and replace the carburetor. Something goes wrong with them. They cheap on ebay. Make sure to get the right one.Trying to repair a Ryobi RY253SS 2-cycle trimmer. Starts up fine, runs for ~10 seconds and dies. It dies regardless of whether full/no-choke, full/no-throttle. Restarts right away, but exhibits same behavior (which leads me to think not an electrical issue). Here is what I've done:
- New 50:1 fuel in tank
- Dry compression: 80 psi
- Wet compression after dripping some oil into cylinder: 120 psi (so some leakage around rings? would this explain symptoms?)
- Cleaned passages in carb, gaskets/diaphragms seem in reasonable shape
- Intake and exhaust gaskets look fine
- Applied 10 psi pressure to carburetor fuel intake pipe and it holds steady
- Applied vacuum to fuel inlet tube going to tank, and it sucks up fuel, so no obvious obstructions in tube or fuel-filter
- Cleaned some carbon buildup from exhaust port
- Pressure tested crankcase: holds steady at 10 psi
- Vacuum tested crankcase: holds steady at 15 in Hg, returns to 15 when I rotate engine
Only adjustment on carb is throttle idle screw. Might be possible to adjust the needle on the barrel-valve of the carb, but looks like a special tool may be needed.
Would appreciate any ideas of what to try next.
Hi. As a specialist in small engine repair, everyone will be saying to check this and that. The first thing that you have to do with all 2 strokes is remove the exhaust and look at the piston. If you see bar codes (I call them) known as score marks, you are wasting your time, the engine is finished. If no score marks, make a hook out of a piece of wire and pull the fuel filter out of the tank, remove it from the line and you should be able to blow through it. Some filters have a water absorbing filter and it should be changed. If you can blow through it, then the problem is in the carb. There is a 10micron screen and it could be blocked with water, dirt or a micro film of old fuel across the screen.Trying to repair a Ryobi RY253SS 2-cycle trimmer. Starts up fine, runs for ~10 seconds and dies. It dies regardless of whether full/no-choke, full/no-throttle. Restarts right away, but exhibits same behavior (which leads me to think not an electrical issue). Here is what I've done:
- New 50:1 fuel in tank
- Dry compression: 80 psi
- Wet compression after dripping some oil into cylinder: 120 psi (so some leakage around rings? would this explain symptoms?)
- Cleaned passages in carb, gaskets/diaphragms seem in reasonable shape
- Intake and exhaust gaskets look fine
- Applied 10 psi pressure to carburetor fuel intake pipe and it holds steady
- Applied vacuum to fuel inlet tube going to tank, and it sucks up fuel, so no obvious obstructions in tube or fuel-filter
- Cleaned some carbon buildup from exhaust port
- Pressure tested crankcase: holds steady at 10 psi
- Vacuum tested crankcase: holds steady at 15 in Hg, returns to 15 when I rotate engine
Only adjustment on carb is throttle idle screw. Might be possible to adjust the needle on the barrel-valve of the carb, but looks like a special tool may be needed.
Would appreciate any ideas of what to try next.
F4040 Tygon yellow fuel line is rated for gasoline.....not all yellow, or for that matter, any color, lines are gasoline rated.The next suspect would be the fuel filter located on the end of the fuel supply line down inside the tank, or possibly the supply line has a crack or pinhole in it. These flexible fuel lines don't last but so long. This unit has been around for quite some time.
Unfortunately this barrel-valve carb (see Amazon page here for photos of what carb looks like) has no high/low adjustment. As per suggestion from an earlier post I did loosen exhaust, but no change.
...replaced the carb with the one here, from Amazon. Runs fine now. This reinforces Auto Doc's earlier comment about ruiXing being "one season wonders".
Loosen is not removed....mud daubers love, for some reason, to build mud capsules in the muffler. Make sure that's not the case. Otherwise, remove carb, disassemble, inspect and blow all passages out with at least 30 psi or higher.
Trying to repair a Ryobi RY253SS 2-cycle trimmer. Starts up fine, runs for ~10 seconds and dies. It dies regardless of whether full/no-choke, full/no-throttle. Restarts right away, but exhibits same behavior (which leads me to think not an electrical issue). Here is what I've done:
- New 50:1 fuel in tank
- Dry compression: 80 psi
- Wet compression after dripping some oil into cylinder: 120 psi (so some leakage around rings? would this explain symptoms?)
- Cleaned passages in carb, gaskets/diaphragms seem in reasonable shape
- Intake and exhaust gaskets look fine
- Applied 10 psi pressure to carburetor fuel intake pipe and it holds steady
- Applied vacuum to fuel inlet tube going to tank, and it sucks up fuel, so no obvious obstructions in tube or fuel-filter
- Cleaned some carbon buildup from exhaust port
- Pressure tested crankcase: holds steady at 10 psi
- Vacuum tested crankcase: holds steady at 15 in Hg, returns to 15 when I rotate engine
Only adjustment on carb is throttle idle screw. Might be possible to adjust the needle on the barrel-valve of the carb, but looks like a special tool may be needed.
Would appreciate any ideas of what to try next.
If you use gas with ethanol in it the carburetor diaphragms are probably shot. You should be using non-ethenol gas. Check that the fuel line and pickup weight in the tank are still intact. This is very common with weed eaters and chain saws. If tgat doesnt fix it, you can buy a new carburetor on ebay, usually for about 20 bucks. Change that and put new fuel lines in it and it should work well for you.Trying to repair a Ryobi RY253SS 2-cycle trimmer. Starts up fine, runs for ~10 seconds and dies. It dies regardless of whether full/no-choke, full/no-throttle. Restarts right away, but exhibits same behavior (which leads me to think not an electrical issue). Here is what I've done:
- New 50:1 fuel in tank
- Dry compression: 80 psi
- Wet compression after dripping some oil into cylinder: 120 psi (so some leakage around rings? would this explain symptoms?)
- Cleaned passages in carb, gaskets/diaphragms seem in reasonable shape
- Intake and exhaust gaskets look fine
- Applied 10 psi pressure to carburetor fuel intake pipe and it holds steady
- Applied vacuum to fuel inlet tube going to tank, and it sucks up fuel, so no obvious obstructions in tube or fuel-filter
- Cleaned some carbon buildup from exhaust port
- Pressure tested crankcase: holds steady at 10 psi
- Vacuum tested crankcase: holds steady at 15 in Hg, returns to 15 when I rotate engine
Only adjustment on carb is throttle idle screw. Might be possible to adjust the needle on the barrel-valve of the carb, but looks like a special tool may be needed.
Would appreciate any ideas of what to try next.
Hence the need to exactly specify which engine gets the same carb spec as the OEM carb. If you cannot adjust them they are pre jetted for a specific displacement engine.I have recently experienced the same set of circumstances w/my Ryobi RY251PH strimmer. (Manufactured 10-22-15)
I must have dropped mine as I had a small piece coming off the carburetor with what looked like a ball behind it.
Order the $9 Amazon Chinese flavor of the day and attached.
What I discovered is that it runs at a totally different "richness/choke" setting which we cannot adjust.
Pull a few times with choke on 100%.
Whether it starts or not, then move choke to somewhere around mid setting.
Start it here.
Mine runs BUT if I totally shut choke off so more air goes thru it does exactly like yours.
I think the "richness" setting is off in the ChiComm specials and we can only adjust mixture with the choke setting.
If this works for you, be sure choke is tight so it doesn't vibrate totally open and then die again.
Please advise.
For proof that mine has lasted 10 years as a residential user a photo of manufacturing date sticker is attached.
Most likely the impulse port for the fuel pump diaphram in the carb body.Also just ran across this photo of carb replacement.
Mine had 2 holes, does yours?
Mostly incorrect . Everything made after the early 80s has switched to materials that are ethanol agnostic as it doesn't do anything to them. Pre Buna-N orings were the common failure and after the switch to Buna-N no more problems. Same holds true with diaphragms.If you use gas with ethanol in it the carburetor diaphragms are probably shot. You should be using non-ethenol gas. Check that the fuel line and pickup weight in the tank are still intact. This is very common with weed eaters and chain saws. If tgat doesnt fix it, you can buy a new carburetor on ebay, usually for about 20 bucks. Change that and put new fuel lines in it and it should work well for you.