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I need to re-power my Toro Z-turn SS4216 Model# 74616.
I would rather not buy the "Toro" engine. It is currently selling at $1500. I have researched and found that this "Toro" is a rebranded Loncin engine, LC1P92F-1. I have read that this engine is also used on other mowers: "Poulan Pro PP17G42, Toro 74616 Time Cutter SS 4216, Toro 74629 Time Cutter SS 3216, Toro 74621 Time Cutter SS 3200, EXmark QTE452CEM42100 42" Quest E-Series, EXmark QTE452CEM42200 42" Quest E-Series and EXmark QTS452CEM34200 42" Quest E Series". I'm working on getting a price from a Poulan Pro Dealer.

Has anyone bought an engine from a company called engine4less.com?

Has anyone tried to replace a Toro engine with a non-Toro engine? If so, how did it go?

Thank you for any help you may bring.

Any engine can replace any engine, just about, as long is you consider, Crankshaft length and diameter, Horsepower, wiring, (stator,carb solenoid, starter, kill wire etc)
Most engine mounting bolt patterns are the same, so Zturns will be this, riding mowers will be that, and push mowers will be something else, but usually all the same, in their category.
I've never used E4L before. generally Brand New engines or Small Engine wharehouse or surplus center.

BadaBing said:

I need to re-power my Toro Z-turn SS4216 Model# 74616.
I would rather not buy the "Toro" engine. It is currently selling at $1500. I have researched and found that this "Toro" is a rebranded Loncin engine, LC1P92F-1. I have read that this engine is also used on other mowers: "Poulan Pro PP17G42, Toro 74616 Time Cutter SS 4216, Toro 74629 Time Cutter SS 3216, Toro 74621 Time Cutter SS 3200, EXmark QTE452CEM42100 42" Quest E-Series, EXmark QTE452CEM42200 42" Quest E-Series and EXmark QTS452CEM34200 42" Quest E Series". I'm working on getting a price from a Poulan Pro Dealer.

Has anyone bought an engine from a company called engine4less.com?

Has anyone tried to replace a Toro engine with a non-Toro engine? If so, how did it go?

Thank you for any help you may bring.

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Why not just put another Toro/Loncin engine on it? It’s cheap. Your Toro is a residential unit. The mower will likely have other problems before the engine goes bad. It’s your money so, you can do what you like. I just don’t think it’s advantageous to put a higher priced engine on your machine.

another option is to contact some mower salvage yards and see if they have one that was put to pasture for a bad transmission or other issues. I've gotten some good things from mower salvage yards. You might be able to get a good running engine for a reasonable price.

they are even on ebay new for $359. 1" X 3-5/32" vertical

How about $599 for New + warranty.. ?

I thought $359 was a better price, but maybe I don't know the new math.

Scrubcadet10 said:

Any engine can replace any engine, just about, as long is you consider, Crankshaft length and diameter, Horsepower, wiring, (stator,carb solenoid, starter, kill wire etc)
Most engine mounting bolt patterns are the same, so Zturns will be this, riding mowers will be that, and push mowers will be something else, but usually all the same, in their category.
I've never used E4L before. generally Brand New engines or Small Engine wharehouse or surplus center.

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Thank you for your reply and information, this would be my first engine replacement, so I'll be learning as I go.

MParr said:

Why not just put another Toro/Loncin engine on it? It’s cheap. Your Toro is a residential unit. The mower will likely have other problems before the engine goes bad. It’s your money so, you can do what you like. I just don’t think it’s advantageous to put a higher priced engine on your machine.

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I believe the Toro/Loncin is overpriced at $1500, the only Loncin I have found is at engine4less, $900, and it is advertised as a Poulan Pro unit. Since I've not dealt with them before, I was asking if anyone had experience with them.

MParr said:

https://repowerspecialists.com/products/toro-timecutter-ss4216-engine-replacement?variant=7410151391255

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Thank you! In all my searches, I never saw this one!

personally i have this one help me find a good priced repower for many a machine, you may have to email them with your info but will find them very helpful

this is their ebay store

My Cub Cadet RTZ50 had a Blown Kawasaki. Replaced it with a Briggs, Even the Electric Connector Plugged in, Correct Pinouts. You can Probably find a Non-Running Engine that needs a Carb for Cheap. Good Luck!

sgkent said:

another option is to contact some mower salvage yards and see if they have one that was put to pasture for a bad transmission or other issues. I've gotten some good things from mower salvage yards. You might be able to get a good running engine for a reasonable price.

they are even on ebay new for $359. 1" X 3-5/32" vertical

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MParr said:

https://www.smallenginewarehouse.com/Repower-Old-Equipment/Toro-74502-Category

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Very cool.
Thank you all for your help and information!
I will post my results to this thread.

BadaBing said:

Very cool.
Thank you all for your help and information!
I will post my results to this thread.

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Just a heads up. Going from the Toro/Loncin engine to another brand will not be a plug and play job. You will have to sort the wiring out.

Yes, thank you. I'm more of a computer guy, I like plug and play.

I need to close the communication loop on my re-power of my Toro Zero Turn Mower. I found a replacement engine from Jack's Small Engines. It was pretty much an exact match with some bumps. Part# 1204324 All of the wiring harnesses fit perfectly.

1) I needed to cannibalize the Oil fill tube from the old engine. This model has a pulse fuel pump and the new engine's oil fill tube did not have a nipple to attach the pulse line. I had never heard of a pulse fuel pump before.
2) The new engine has no threads for the old engine mount bolts. I called a neighbor, and he brought over his tapping tools and we cut threads into the engine block. I should have first checked to see if the old bolts would work, but I didn't and had to un-do all of the connections etc to cut the threads. I could have also used longer bolts and nuts on the other end on some of the holes.
3) I needed to cannibalize the right angle adapter for the oil filter.

All said and done, it was a good learning experience. This was my first time engine swap.

Thank you all for your advice and knowledge sharing.