PTO Clutch Locked out

[rajthepilot]

As IL said it can be a number that cause the bearing to fail so early. You have apparently the 61" deck which use the Warner 5218-134 PTO clutch. I would be installing the Xtreme X0216 clutch this time which a much clutch. But voltage must checked and clutch must be burnish in. PTO retaining bolt is torqued to 55 ft-lbs.

From Xtreme installation sheet.
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This Clutch is half the price of the one by Briggs and Stratton, but is there any way to check if it will fit the mower?

 

[ILENGINE]

As IL said it can be a number that cause the bearing to fail so early. You have apparently the 61" deck which use the Warner 5218-134 PTO clutch. I would be installing the Xtreme X0216 clutch this time which a much clutch. But voltage must checked and clutch must be burnish in. PTO retaining bolt is torqued to 55 ft-lbs.

From Xtreme installation sheet.
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I am coming up with the 5105090YP superceded from 5105090 from the 5100084 which is coming back to a X0245 for a replacement for the 5218-221 warner clutch. But the 5105090 is showing the 5218-134 for the X0216. But if you put the S200XT into the xtremeope search is shows the x0245. But both show the same pulley diameter, same shaft diameter, same rotation, and same torque. So maybe interchangeable.

 

[ILENGINE]

So can you suggest how this can be tested? Should I check voltage at a particular location to see if it is over charging? And what about overtorque, is there anyway the repair shop can test that?

See testing instructions in the post by Star just above yours for testing procedures.

 

[StarTech]

Did even read the Xtreme instruction I posted about testing the voltage?

As for the torque you can't really test that after the bolt been installed for awhile as it develops a static bond that throw off the initial torque readings. But way you use a torque wrench to check the installed torque. Most torque wrenches out there only does RH toque readings so you can't the loosening torque as that is a LH operation.

 

[rajthepilot]

Did even read the Xtreme instruction I posted about testing the voltage?

As for the torque you can't really test that after the bolt been installed for awhile as it develops a static bond that throw off the initial torque readings. But way you use a torque wrench to check the installed torque. Most torque wrenches out there only does RH toque readings so you can't the loosening torque as that is a LH operation.

Ok, I assume I will unplug the PTO connector, turn on the PTO switch and then measure the voltage. I'll let the repair shop know. Hopefully they know more about this

 

[StarTech]

I am coming up with the 5105090YP superceded from 5105090 from the 5100084 which is coming back to a X0245 for a replacement for the 5218-221 warner clutch. But the 5105090 is showing the 5218-134 for the X0216. But if you put the S200XT into the xtremeope search is shows the x0245. But both show the same pulley diameter, same shaft diameter, same rotation, and same torque. So maybe interchangeable.

 

[ILENGINE]

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Looks like the original clutch used on that model per PD was the 5100084 which appears to be the 5218-221 but the superceded number of 5105090 and 5105090YP are the 5218-134. Stens is crossing the 5105090 over to 255-827 or 5218-221. And it looks like Warner electric is showing the 5218-221 as a replacement for the 5218-134 So from that I would gather that the X0245 and the X0216 are interchangeable.

 

[StarTech]

I couldn't even get Warner electric website to find either one those PTOs. Are using a different site than https://www.warnerelectric.com/ ?

All I can go by is what is on the Power Portal site and go from there. It like one of my members on another where Sears insists his mower has a manual deck lift when he has an electric deck lift.

 

[ILENGINE]

Here is where I found it at. https://www.warnerptodirect.com/shop/pto-clutches/5218-221

 

[StarTech]

Thank that link I get the info on my system updated to supersede 5218-134 to 5218-221. I will also bookmark that website of Warner, just why they don't link it is not known.

I also didn't have website in the vendor's file here but do now.