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Ordering extra's just doesn't work

#1

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

So a month ago, I had a couple of good weeks, so I ordered some extra parts, to help build up my inventory.

Well this week, and actually almost every week since, Seems none of the extra's I ordered, were nothing I needed. Always some odd ball carbs and things of that nature. This past week, it was an odd ball Honda carb on a common Honda engine. Today, it's a common Briggs engine on a pressure washer, with an odd ball carb.

I do like having a growing number of parts in the shop. But that only works when I can actually use the ones I have in stock. lol


#2

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

I don't stock carbs like i used to. Just too many different ones. I still have a handful but they are for older stuff. Now i just order as i need. Air filters are getting to be a nightmare too. I stock a couple for all the ones i know i do annual maint on but too many now to try and stock. Spark plugs and fuel line, starter rope and oil filters are about the only things i am pretty sure to have on hand.


#3

StarTech

StarTech

Stocking parts can be a crap shoot at first as you got find what out commonly is needed in your territory. Each of our territories is slightly different based on what the public is buying. Part stocking takes experience which you will gain as time goes by.

Since I repair nearly 99 percent of the carburetors I only stock some the main carburetor parts used in my area. Since this year is over sales wise I know I only had order one Honda carburetor and several Stihl Zama carburetors. Just can't justify stocking any of these carburetors.

With the distributors that I have being only one to two days out delivery wise there is no real reason to even stock some items so I have reduce my 50K inventory down to around 33.5K now and probably even less next year. Now common items like belts, blades, plugs, etc (expendable items) I do stock as they are something you must when the customer asks for them on hand.

I actually still got some first stock that I purchase back in 2009 on hand. Learned quickly not to trust the distributor's recommendations on what to stock.


#4

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bertsmobile1

When I kicked off I ordered double of most things I needed ,
BAck then it was better than now as the retail prices were a lot higher so I could add enough mark up to cover the second item and still a little beer money.
Now with all of the E-tailers selling junk on evilpay from their outside toilets margins are squeezed a lot.
I still have to order in parts for jobs but it is only the odd one.
Of the over ordered , I sell about 1/3 as parts and about the same for jobs in house but the killer is long delivery times.
Just waited 7 weeks to get a spindle housing from Jacks
The Briggs stators took 13 weeks
Still waiting for V twin diode looms that were ordered 12 weeks ago, thankfully the diodes arrived in 4 weeks from Hong Kong and thus it goes on.
I carry around 2000 air filters over around 300 different lines .
Don't expect to sell them all every season but as an example this time last year we had bushfires raging all around here and in 2 weeks I did 47 fire pumps.
Could no have done it if I did not have the cartons of Honda & Briggs filters on hand plus the metal cased fuel filters.
Even better is no one quibbed at the price or argued that they did not need a filter all they cared about was their pump sprayed water and I had 30,000 litres in the tank so each & every one was shown to be working.
I know at least 6 customers used their pumps to save their property .
Some of those filters were in the stock I took over when I bought the business back in 2012 & this was the first time I sold one .
Telling a customer you do not have the parts to service their pumps with would not have done anyone any good.
Sold 11 carbs and 13 float bowls .
That was my best months trading ever


#5

B

bertsmobile1

StarTech said:
Stocking parts can be a crap shoot at first as you got find what out commonly is needed in your territory. Each of our territories is slightly different based on what the public is buying. Part stocking takes experience which you will gain as time goes by.

big snip

I actually still got some first stock that I purchase back in 2009 on hand. Learned quickly not to trust the distributor's recommendations on what to stock.
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Yes I know what you mean .
because I did not know, I bought a Champion Popular plugs pack from Stens and an NGK popular plugs pack from RGS
Eight years latter I still have not found out what 2/3 of the "popular " plugs in these packs actually fit but the merchandizers look good in the workshop and does make it easy for me to sell a "spare" plug to most customers


#6

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

2000 Air filters! I have maybe 125 and 24 of those are the flat panel for briggs push mower engines. I don't do much over the counter sales. Not sure what happened but most of the people who have me do late season maint didn't call me this year. I mark it up to covid and hope they call me in the spring. I am not even going place a stocking order in the spring. Just going to go with what i have on hand.


#7

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bertsmobile1

Hammermechanicman said:
2000 Air filters! I have maybe 125 and 24 of those are the flat panel for briggs push mower engines. I don't do much over the counter sales. Not sure what happened but most of the people who have me do late season maint didn't call me this year. I mark it up to covid and hope they call me in the spring. I am not even going place a stocking order in the spring. Just going to go with what i have on hand.
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I buy a lot in wholesale quantities so that is cartons of 50, 100 or 144 in order to get them for a price hat will allow me to price match with the on line vendors .
Briggs & Stratton Aust have a very small stock.
Even very common filters are always in short supply, let alone one for a 30 year old 4 Hp stationary engine.


#8

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

Years ago i bought a bunch of briggs style foam filters from Foley Belsaw for pennies. About half have decomposed in the packages. Still made money on the ones i used.


#9

R

Rivets

Because I also work for a business, my inventory is probably the lowest of all the techs on this forum. I do order some items through them when they do seasonal orders to get a better price. Only have about 5K in inventory, things like filters, plugs, carb kits, oil, etc. Refuse to stock belts, cables, batteries, blades and most things electrical. Actually have 2-3 times more invested in tools than inventory, neighbors say if I don’t have it they don’t need it.


#10

ILENGINE

ILENGINE

Rivets said:
Because I also work for a business, my inventory is probably the lowest of all the techs on this forum. I do order some items through them when they do seasonal orders to get a better price. Only have about 5K in inventory, things like filters, plugs, carb kits, oil, etc. Refuse to stock belts, cables, batteries, blades and most things electrical. Actually have 2-3 times more invested in tools than inventory, neighbors say if I don’t have it they don’t need it.
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I stock the air filters that I use commonly, and oil filters, oil and spark plugs. Fuel lines for trimmers and lawnmowers. and the fuel filters. Blades, belts, cables etc I can have within a day or two. Seems like parts numbers change every year and what I sold this year may not even be on the radar for next year. Seems like my business and others may be leaning that direction is I am seeing less pieces of equipment but much larger repair bills. Instead of having 4 pieces of equipment come in with $100 repair bills it is now one piece with a $400 repair bill.


#11

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

bertsmobile1 said:
When I kicked off I ordered double of most things I needed ,
BAck then it was better than now as the retail prices were a lot higher so I could add enough mark up to cover the second item and still a little beer money.
Now with all of the E-tailers selling junk on evilpay from their outside toilets margins are squeezed a lot.
I still have to order in parts for jobs but it is only the odd one.
Of the over ordered , I sell about 1/3 as parts and about the same for jobs in house but the killer is long delivery times.
Just waited 7 weeks to get a spindle housing from Jacks
The Briggs stators took 13 weeks
Still waiting for V twin diode looms that were ordered 12 weeks ago, thankfully the diodes arrived in 4 weeks from Hong Kong and thus it goes on.
I carry around 2000 air filters over around 300 different lines .
Don't expect to sell them all every season but as an example this time last year we had bushfires raging all around here and in 2 weeks I did 47 fire pumps.
Could no have done it if I did not have the cartons of Honda & Briggs filters on hand plus the metal cased fuel filters.
Even better is no one quibbed at the price or argued that they did not need a filter all they cared about was their pump sprayed water and I had 30,000 litres in the tank so each & every one was shown to be working.
I know at least 6 customers used their pumps to save their property .
Some of those filters were in the stock I took over when I bought the business back in 2012 & this was the first time I sold one .
Telling a customer you do not have the parts to service their pumps with would not have done anyone any good.
Sold 11 carbs and 13 float bowls .
That was my best months trading ever
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LMAO.. This one briggs I'm working on (591597), I ONLY need the seat. Since I have several gasket sets in stock for these type of briggs, I went straight to my Briggs kit drawer and found ever dang one of them was missing from the package. And no new unsealed kits. Looks like I'm gonna have to order some more kits.

My collection of kits to fit Stihl and Echo has grown quite a bit this year. Was hoping for more saws. But the only ones I've gotten in are those throwaways with not enough compression to mess with.


#12

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

My bread and butter is seasonal maint on riders and ZTRs. Dealers want anywhere from $200-$350 to pickup and deliver with annual maint. Most folks with a 5+ year old mower don't want to pay that to a dealer or $100 to change a belt. The dealers and shops around me are all OEM parts only. Lots of folks are OK with aftermarket. I don't fault the dealers plus they have plenty of business. I am not taking any work from them. I have a 20+ year old AYP/Craftsman in the shop now. Needs annual maint, the deck rebuilt, drive and blade belts and front deck support trunions. Local shop wouldn't work on it and said it would cost twice what the mower is worth. Well over $500. I am doing it for about $300 or so and they are happy with that. I am seeing bigger bills than i used to. Especially if i need parts for newer machines. I keep a lot of mowers out of the scrap pile. When the dealers get busy all they want to work on is new stuff. Last week i put a $1200 power steering cylinder on a Ford 901 tractor a guy is restoring. Also points, plugs, wires, cap and rotor, cleaned and rebuilt the carb and fixed a whole bunch of corroded wiring. That was a cha-ching $$$$ bill.

Power Steering Cylinder

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#13

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

PTmowerMech said:
LMAO.. This one briggs I'm working on (591597), I ONLY need the seat. Since I have several gasket sets in stock for these type of briggs, I went straight to my Briggs kit drawer and found ever dang one of them was missing from the package. And no new unsealed kits. Looks like I'm gonna have to order some more kits.

My collection of kits to fit Stihl and Echo has grown quite a bit this year. Was hoping for more saws. But the only ones I've gotten in are those throwaways with not enough compression to mess with.
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Lots of times all you need for the 2 smoke carbs is a diaphragm and gasket. I buy them in ten packs off evilbay. Used to get the GND kits but getting harder to find.


#14

StarTech

StarTech

Hammermechanicman said:
Lots of times all you need for the 2 smoke carbs is a diaphragm and gasket. I buy them in ten packs off evilbay. Used to get the GND kits but getting harder to find.
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Maybe you should look into CTS and DC Spares then.


#15

StarTech

StarTech

PTmowerMech said:
LMAO.. This one briggs I'm working on (591597), I ONLY need the seat. Since I have several gasket sets in stock for these type of briggs, I went straight to my Briggs kit drawer and found ever dang one of them was missing from the package. And no new unsealed kits. Looks like I'm gonna have to order some more kits.

My collection of kits to fit Stihl and Echo has grown quite a bit this year. Was hoping for more saws. But the only ones I've gotten in are those throwaways with not enough compression to mess with.
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Been having a lot problem with Zama carbs on Stihl units not priming this year and the parts cost as much as a new carburetor.

And not able to find the 591597 on the Power Portal site. Are sure of the PN?


#16

Scrubcadet10

Scrubcadet10

Only place I see that 591597 is on Amazon

Amazon.com : Pro Chaser 591597 591137 590780 593380 Carburetor for 110P02 110P05 Engine Fits Troy-Bilt 850 ex 190cc Pressure Washer Replaces Model 020568 Craftsman 875 Series B&S 216852 : Patio, Lawn & Garden

Amazon.com : Pro Chaser 591597 591137 590780 593380 Carburetor for 110P02 110P05 Engine Fits Troy-Bilt 850 ex 190cc Pressure Washer Replaces Model 020568 Craftsman 875 Series B&S 216852 : Patio, Lawn & Garden
www.amazon.com

Nowhere else recognizes the part number.


#17

StarTech

StarTech

That what I am finding so I look up the part to see if there is just seats available. That PN is not even in my latest price file download from Power Distributors which leads me to wonder what engine it is actually on.


#18

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

StarTech said:
Been having a lot problem with Zama carbs on Stihl units not priming this year and the parts cost as much as a new carburetor.

And not able to find the 591597 on the Power Portal site. Are sure of the PN?
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On this rare instance, this is the number stamped on this carb. The Briggs logo is also stamped on it. But while doing the research on this carb, (Partstree and another) the pn is different. It's listed as 593599. Funny thing, both Partstree and Jacks show two carbs. But only list the one. Maybe the other was discontinued.
From Amazon, I got a PN match. I ordered one from Amazon, like $15. Stens doesn't even have the kit for this carb. OEM kits run about $30 +shipping. Being a pressure washer, if the pump is bad, then I won't have a lot into it.


Stocking parts (the right ones) is tricky for us new guys. I got about 20 belts stocked at the moment. I've been pretty lucky with those. I've only had to order about 50% of the one's I've sold.


#19

StarTech

StarTech

Note the numbers on Briggs carburetors is the supplier to Briggs part numbers then Briggs modify them at times to meet their actual application. As for showing two different carburetors Briggs is recycling some parts of the IPL drawings.

As for the needle/seat set the PN is 799177 if the engine is on date code 18113000 or later.


#20

PTmowerMech

PTmowerMech

StarTech said:
Note the numbers on Briggs carburetors is the supplier to Briggs part numbers then Briggs modify them at times to meet their actual application. As for showing two different carburetors Briggs is recycling some parts of the IPL drawings.

As for the needle/seat set the PN is 799177 if the engine is on date code 18113000 or later.
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I slipped down to a two yesterday (or the day before). When I removed the needle, the rubber seat was attached to the metal needle. I didn't think anything of it, as in looking down at where the seat came from. When looking up the needle and seat, it showed a rubber tip needle and a metal seat. So, I'm thinking I'm just not looking at the right part.
Just by chance, I looked down into the hole were the seat goes (trying to insert a used seat I blew out of another carb, and that's when I noticed the shape of the hole. Someone had this carb all jacked up.
You wouldn't happened to know the part number for just the needle, would you? Because I might have one. I just bought a variety of needles from Briggs Stratton parts.com... (Not Briggs AND Stratton)


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