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oil all drained out from air filter area murray 30 inch rear engine, appears to be all drained out from the air filter pan ,what could cause this ??? not leaking from anywhere else, how does the oil get transfered to the air filter area and then all drain out?

I don't understand, unless you have a very old engine using an oil bath filter system, there should be NO oil in the air filter housing.

Rivets said:

I don't understand, unless you have a very old engine using an oil bath filter system, there should be NO oil in the air filter housing.

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It is in there and it was so full that it soaked the green air filter ,the oil was dripping out of the air filter pan too so as far as I know it has us all stumped , some one said it could be that the rings are bad ??? dont know,just dont know ,thank you too,any and all replies are welcome

I would guess either the crankcase is full of gas/oil mix, and overflowed the engine, or this thing has been tipped over.

I agree with IL.

ILENGINE said:

I would guess either the crankcase is full of gas/oil mix, and overflowed the engine, or this thing has been tipped over.

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thank you I can fix the oil problem, as it is not starting now, the battery is fully charged, as i turn the key it is making a thunk sound and then nothing but each time i turn the key makes the same sound,i took the cover off the starter gear and turned it with plyers and it turns freely,could it still be bad ? solenoid has power going in and out of it , could it still be bad ? what else caN I check ? starter switch seems to work ? relays ? if so and where are thay ?and what are they ,trying to start but wont turn over just a quick thunk sound and then nothing else,,thanks.

Try this. Remove the spark plug, and place a large rag in front of the spark plug hole. Ground the spark plug wire. Turn the engine over, try to start the engine. I'm guessing that the cylinder is filled with a gas oil mixture. You will see gas fill the rag. You ground the plug so there is no chance of a spark, as you are going to get a lot of fumes. After no more gas comes flying out, install the plug and change the oil. Then try starting the engine.

Rivets said:

Try this. Remove the spark plug, and place a large rag in front of the spark plug hole. Ground the spark plug wire. Turn the engine over, try to start the engine. I'm guessing that the cylinder is filled with a gas oil mixture. You will see gas fill the rag. You ground the plug so there is no chance of a spark, as you are going to get a lot of fumes. After no more gas comes flying out, install the plug and change the oil. Then try starting the engine.

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what can i ground the plug wirt to ? just the base or body ?

Rivets said:

Try this. Remove the spark plug, and place a large rag in front of the spark plug hole. Ground the spark plug wire. Turn the engine over, try to start the engine. I'm guessing that the cylinder is filled with a gas oil mixture. You will see gas fill the rag. You ground the plug so there is no chance of a spark, as you are going to get a lot of fumes. After no more gas comes flying out, install the plug and change the oil. Then try starting the engine.

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also ,I am guessing you dont feel like theres a problem with the starter or solenoid or key switch or the relays , since it is trying to turn the starter, and how would i test the starter to see if it is bad ? thanks !!!

chuckmm said:

also ,I am guessing you dont feel like theres a problem with the starter or solenoid or key switch or the relays , since it is trying to turn the starter, and how would i test the starter to see if it is bad ? thanks !!!

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I would pull the plug as has been said already.
Do not let the plug hang in front of the plug hole.
If you let the plug sit in front of the plug hole please take a video for us.

(( racing is the only sport that you need two balls ))

Hook a jumper wire from the plug to any metal point on the block.

Rivets said:

Try this. Remove the spark plug, and place a large rag in front of the spark plug hole. Ground the spark plug wire. Turn the engine over, try to start the engine. I'm guessing that the cylinder is filled with a gas oil mixture. You will see gas fill the rag. You ground the plug so there is no chance of a spark, as you are going to get a lot of fumes. After no more gas comes flying out, install the plug and change the oil. Then try starting the engine.

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also ,I am guessing you dont feel like theres a problem with the starter or solenoid or key switch or the relays , since it is trying to turn the starter, and how would i test the starter to see if it is bad ? thanks !!!

Rivets said:

NO, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH YOUR STARTER OR SOLENOID OR ANY OTHER PART OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. THAT'S WHY I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION FLUSH THE CYLINDER FIRST.

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WILL DO THANKS TOO

Hope you find someone who is smarter than me to help you, because I'm out of hthis one.

Rivets said:

Hope you find someone who is smarter than me to help you, because I'm out of hthis one.

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yes me too because ,pulling the plug ,grounding the plug wire and trying to start it , did not work worth a ****, nothing happened, but hey everyones got an opinion