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MZT 52 Gator blades?
#1
T
tom-ky
T
tom-ky
Anyone tried the Gator blades on the MZT 52? Thought it might reduce clipping size and wondered if it would improve lift. I notice sometimes mine leaves a little that the front tires run over.
#2
Ric
You can probably get the G3 Gator blades for the MZT and they may make a difference in the clipping size. I've seen some entry level commercial machines they work fine on and others that not worth spending the money on the cuts look like crap. How well they will work depends a lot on the mower and deck.
Ric
Anyone tried the Gator blades on the MZT 52? Thought it might reduce clipping size and wondered if it would improve lift. I notice sometimes mine leaves a little that the front tires run over.
You can probably get the G3 Gator blades for the MZT and they may make a difference in the clipping size. I've seen some entry level commercial machines they work fine on and others that not worth spending the money on the cuts look like crap. How well they will work depends a lot on the mower and deck.
#3
T
tom-ky
The Husqvarna list a Gator blade with the mulch kit, wonder if it is the G3? What is the difference in the different Gator blades?
T
tom-ky
You can probably get the G3 Gator blades for the MZT and they may make a difference in the clipping size. I've seen some entry level commercial machines they work fine on and others that not worth spending the money on the cuts look like crap. How well they will work depends a lot on the mower and deck.
The Husqvarna list a Gator blade with the mulch kit, wonder if it is the G3? What is the difference in the different Gator blades?
#4
Ric
The big differences between G3 and G6 is one, the G3 you can buy for most all mower applications and the G6 blades are designed for commercial applications. The G6 blades have greater width and are thicker which is supposed to reduce sharpening and extend the blade life. The G6 blades also have an extended cutting edge of like 9 inches each end of the blade instead of the normal 3 or 4 inches. The tips on the G6 are re-enforced to keep them from rounding off so quick.
Ric
The Husqvarna list a Gator blade with the mulch kit, wonder if it is the G3? What is the difference in the different Gator blades?
The big differences between G3 and G6 is one, the G3 you can buy for most all mower applications and the G6 blades are designed for commercial applications. The G6 blades have greater width and are thicker which is supposed to reduce sharpening and extend the blade life. The G6 blades also have an extended cutting edge of like 9 inches each end of the blade instead of the normal 3 or 4 inches. The tips on the G6 are re-enforced to keep them from rounding off so quick.
#5
Carscw
Carscw
I put the G6 blades on my snapper the cut is so much better. Even with mowing in transport gear. And I like how they whistle.
#6
serelaw
Great info Ric, looking for some now.. Thanks
serelaw
The big differences between G3 and G6 is one, the G3 you can buy for most all mower applications and the G6 blades are designed for commercial applications. The G6 blades have greater width and are thicker which is supposed to reduce sharpening and extend the blade life. The G6 blades also have an extended cutting edge of like 9 inches each end of the blade instead of the normal 3 or 4 inches. The tips on the G6 are re-enforced to keep them from rounding off so quick.
Great info Ric, looking for some now.. Thanks
#7
740jsmayle
740jsmayle
Did you get the Gator blades and if so how do they work ?
#9
S
Seppie
Hi, I have just put the gator blades on 2 wks ago and I have 2 cuts on them. Are they worth it? Well I am very picky how the mower actually cuts and to be honest with you. If just keep your blades sharp you'll save yourself some money. Just my 2 cents is that just buy another set of regular blades and swap them out every 8 hrs or so for the sharp ones. I thought I would get a lil longer grass threw and lift out of them and I have not seen that. They just as good as OE blades when sharp. Hope this helps
S
Seppie
I have not.
Hi, I have just put the gator blades on 2 wks ago and I have 2 cuts on them. Are they worth it? Well I am very picky how the mower actually cuts and to be honest with you. If just keep your blades sharp you'll save yourself some money. Just my 2 cents is that just buy another set of regular blades and swap them out every 8 hrs or so for the sharp ones. I thought I would get a lil longer grass threw and lift out of them and I have not seen that. They just as good as OE blades when sharp. Hope this helps
#10
Ric
The problem with people and Gator blades is they don't realize or know how they work and then they say like you Just my 2 cents is that just buy another set of regular blades and swap them out every 8 hrs or so because they don't believe there worth the money.
Your not going to get any more lift or your grass discharged or thrown any further with Gator blades, that's not how they work or there purpose. The lift on a set of Gator Blades works differently than a regular or mulching blade. [SIZE=-1] The teeth on a gator blade are angle toward the center of the blade to redirect the airflow and push the grass clippings back over the cutting edge of the mower blade again and again creating smaller grass clippings before discharge[/SIZE] and the smaller the clippings the less discharge you see. Your regular and mulching blades angle out from the blades so they create larger clipping that you can see and will naturally be thrown or discharged further.
The purpose of a Gator blade is to create smaller clippings to filter down into the grass you've mowed because smaller clippings break down faster and feed and water your lawn where your larger clippings just lay on top and dry out and serve no purpose.
The other thing people need to realize is that the faster or higher the blades tip speed on the mower the efficient the Gator Blades work, they work best on mower with a BTS of 17000 and higher. If you have a residential mower I would suggest using the G3 Gator Blades.
Ric
Hi, I have just put the gator blades on 2 wks ago and I have 2 cuts on them. Are they worth it? Well I am very picky how the mower actually cuts and to be honest with you. If just keep your blades sharp you'll save yourself some money. Just my 2 cents is that just buy another set of regular blades and swap them out every 8 hrs or so for the sharp ones. I thought I would get a lil longer grass threw and lift out of them and I have not seen that. They just as good as OE blades when sharp. Hope this helps
The problem with people and Gator blades is they don't realize or know how they work and then they say like you Just my 2 cents is that just buy another set of regular blades and swap them out every 8 hrs or so because they don't believe there worth the money.
Your not going to get any more lift or your grass discharged or thrown any further with Gator blades, that's not how they work or there purpose. The lift on a set of Gator Blades works differently than a regular or mulching blade. [SIZE=-1] The teeth on a gator blade are angle toward the center of the blade to redirect the airflow and push the grass clippings back over the cutting edge of the mower blade again and again creating smaller grass clippings before discharge[/SIZE] and the smaller the clippings the less discharge you see. Your regular and mulching blades angle out from the blades so they create larger clipping that you can see and will naturally be thrown or discharged further.
The purpose of a Gator blade is to create smaller clippings to filter down into the grass you've mowed because smaller clippings break down faster and feed and water your lawn where your larger clippings just lay on top and dry out and serve no purpose.
The other thing people need to realize is that the faster or higher the blades tip speed on the mower the efficient the Gator Blades work, they work best on mower with a BTS of 17000 and higher. If you have a residential mower I would suggest using the G3 Gator Blades.
#11
serelaw
serelaw
Ric 17000 = residential and higher = commercial?
I ordered some G5s. Should be here this week.
I coulda ordered from the web but like to support
my local indie mower shop when I can.
Besides tax only .60 cents difference in price.
I ordered some G5s. Should be here this week.
I coulda ordered from the web but like to support
my local indie mower shop when I can.
Besides tax only .60 cents difference in price.
#12
serelaw
serelaw
never mind ric. I just misunderstood your 17000 thingy.
#13
740jsmayle
740jsmayle
Is the G5 blades the higher lift ?
#14
serelaw
Click Here
The g5 and g6 are the same cept for thickness. As you will c on pg 2..
Enjoy
serelaw
Is the G5 blades the higher lift ?
Click Here
The g5 and g6 are the same cept for thickness. As you will c on pg 2..
Enjoy
#15
Ric
Except for Thickness and the width of the blade, I'm not sure of there application though.
Ric
Is the G5 blades the higher lift ?
Except for Thickness and the width of the blade, I'm not sure of there application though.
#16
Ric
I use the G 6 on my Toro GS and there great, a lot better cut than the G3
Ric
Did you get the Gator blades and if so how do they work ?
I use the G 6 on my Toro GS and there great, a lot better cut than the G3
#17
serelaw
serelaw
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You are the best sir thank you.
I have been to your website and can not find a part number for the G6.
Only 59-085 [G5]. What would be the part # for G6?
Thanks again sir.
Sorry, I should have looked a little deeper before I answered. Even though you have the HP the concern is the spindle on your mower. We do only offer the G5 for that one. Again because of the type spindle you have there are no plans to add the G6? The only difference in the two is the thickness of the steel, performance will be equal. The thicker steel gives you a little longer life.
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1st: I can find several G5 blade widths from 2.25" to 3"
2nd: The G6 only comes in 3".
3rd: The 2014 Gravely Pro-Turn™ 100 XDZ Series 152 - 23HP, 52", 3400 Hydro With durable cast iron housings, can take a G6 blade.
4th: We share the durable cast iron housing and spindle diameter.
So I looked at the specs for the 3400 Hydro: Spindle: 1,125. or 1" 1/8th .
Cast iron housing. Tapered 5-bolt flange. 1" 1/8 spindle.
I gotta find out why.
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You are the best sir thank you.
I have been to your website and can not find a part number for the G6.
Only 59-085 [G5]. What would be the part # for G6?
Thanks again sir.
Sorry, I should have looked a little deeper before I answered. Even though you have the HP the concern is the spindle on your mower. We do only offer the G5 for that one. Again because of the type spindle you have there are no plans to add the G6? The only difference in the two is the thickness of the steel, performance will be equal. The thicker steel gives you a little longer life.
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Technical Services Manager
Oregonｮ Outdoor Equipment Parts
1st: I can find several G5 blade widths from 2.25" to 3"
2nd: The G6 only comes in 3".
3rd: The 2014 Gravely Pro-Turn™ 100 XDZ Series 152 - 23HP, 52", 3400 Hydro With durable cast iron housings, can take a G6 blade.
4th: We share the durable cast iron housing and spindle diameter.
So I looked at the specs for the 3400 Hydro: Spindle: 1,125. or 1" 1/8th .
Cast iron housing. Tapered 5-bolt flange. 1" 1/8 spindle.
I gotta find out why.
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serelaw
serelaw
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"Wow, thanks for the quick reply. I'm off to checkout my spindles.
They are cast iron. Maybe the spindle has to be a certain diameter.
I ordered the right ones." <------[Meaning "right mower blades"]
Our engineers base the decision on many characteristics of the spindles. It isn't that you don't have good spindles but they didn't meet the criteria we require to offer a G6 blade.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by serelaw View Post
"Wow, thanks for the quick reply. I'm off to checkout my spindles.
They are cast iron. Maybe the spindle has to be a certain diameter.
I ordered the right ones." <------[Meaning "right mower blades"]
Our engineers base the decision on many characteristics of the spindles. It isn't that you don't have good spindles but they didn't meet the criteria we require to offer a G6 blade.
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#19
Ric
Wow you just don't give up do ya :biggrin:
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Originally Posted by serelaw View Post
"Wow, thanks for the quick reply. I'm off to checkout my spindles.
They are cast iron. Maybe the spindle has to be a certain diameter.
I ordered the right ones." <------[Meaning "right mower blades"]
Our engineers base the decision on many characteristics of the spindles. It isn't that you don't have good spindles but they didn't meet the criteria we require to offer a G6 blade.
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Wow you just don't give up do ya :biggrin:
#20
serelaw
serelaw
I know right.
Several sources told me I could get the thicker G6.
I could never find a number.
Now we know exactly what we can use from Oregonï® and why..
Thanks for your help ric.
Several sources told me I could get the thicker G6.
I could never find a number.
Now we know exactly what we can use from Oregonï® and why..
Thanks for your help ric.
#21
740jsmayle
740jsmayle
I searched today and the only blades I could find for my mz-t 61 are the g3 ?
#22
Ric
There's nothing wrong with the G3, you should be able to get the G5 but the G6 isn't available for Mzt there commercial application only. The G5 my dealer would have to order the others he carry's in stock.
Ric
I searched today and the only blades I could find for my mz-t 61 are the g3 ?
There's nothing wrong with the G3, you should be able to get the G5 but the G6 isn't available for Mzt there commercial application only. The G5 my dealer would have to order the others he carry's in stock.
#23
serelaw
serelaw
Try this
Measure your blade diagonally and then hit the link above. I found some G5s there with 5 point star hole. Good luck
Your part number says 967177002 [This is your mower part number not the blade part number].
If that is right. 21". So if that is diagonal ur good to go. IF 21 1/4 or so u r still good to go.
Measure your blade diagonally and then hit the link above. I found some G5s there with 5 point star hole. Good luck
Your part number says 967177002 [This is your mower part number not the blade part number].
If that is right. 21". So if that is diagonal ur good to go. IF 21 1/4 or so u r still good to go.
#24
S
Seppie
Rick some of us just come down a level to let people understand on a lawn mowing level that the G blades in my 2 CENTS are well I would rather buy beer then put those blades on again. I do understand how they work and if people want to understand how they work they would ask you. You are very knowledgeable person this business and just on the home owner side of things I would keep it simple and stick with oems. I don't like how those blades clog under my deck I do not have the issue with my oem's and I do have a mower that turns 19,000 tip speed. Y waist your hard earned dollars when I have already done that? I just suggested in simple lamens is that stick with OEM'S. Ok and people read this post and take it for what it is. Just putting it out there that they are my opinion not up to par for the money. Hope this helps some on the leaning table.
S
Seppie
There's nothing wrong with the G3, you should be able to get the G5 but the G6 isn't available for Mzt there commercial application only. The G5 my dealer would have to order the others he carry's in stock.
Rick some of us just come down a level to let people understand on a lawn mowing level that the G blades in my 2 CENTS are well I would rather buy beer then put those blades on again. I do understand how they work and if people want to understand how they work they would ask you. You are very knowledgeable person this business and just on the home owner side of things I would keep it simple and stick with oems. I don't like how those blades clog under my deck I do not have the issue with my oem's and I do have a mower that turns 19,000 tip speed. Y waist your hard earned dollars when I have already done that? I just suggested in simple lamens is that stick with OEM'S. Ok and people read this post and take it for what it is. Just putting it out there that they are my opinion not up to par for the money. Hope this helps some on the leaning table.
#25
serelaw
At least you own the equipment we are talking about. I would say your opinion carries more weight than rics.
Sometimes his lack of information on a subject will not detour him from having an opinion. Thanks for your posting.
But just in case:
Hi Serelaw,
On Husqvarna’s website they have five different IPL’s for your mower, however they appear to take the same blade. It looks like the OEM number is 539112079. This matches up to our G5 gator blade 595-085, we do not currently have a G6 blade available. This is an 18” blade (you measure blades on the diagonal), center hole is a 5 pt. star, it is 3” wide and there is no offset.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Best Regards,
Cheryl Steinke
Blount International, Inc.
Technical Customer Service
Toll Free: 800-223-5168
Phone: 503-653-4581
Fax: 503-353-6423
serelaw
Rick some of us just come down a level to let people understand on a lawn mowing level that the G blades in my 2 CENTS are well I would rather buy beer then put those blades on again. I do understand how they work and if people want to understand how they work they would ask you. You are very knowledgeable person this business and just on the home owner side of things I would keep it simple and stick with oems. I don't like how those blades clog under my deck I do not have the issue with my oem's and I do have a mower that turns 19,000 tip speed. Y waist your hard earned dollars when I have already done that? I just suggested in simple lamens is that stick with OEM'S. Ok and people read this post and take it for what it is. Just putting it out there that they are my opinion not up to par for the money. Hope this helps some on the leaning table.
At least you own the equipment we are talking about. I would say your opinion carries more weight than rics.
Sometimes his lack of information on a subject will not detour him from having an opinion. Thanks for your posting.
But just in case:
Hi Serelaw,
On Husqvarna’s website they have five different IPL’s for your mower, however they appear to take the same blade. It looks like the OEM number is 539112079. This matches up to our G5 gator blade 595-085, we do not currently have a G6 blade available. This is an 18” blade (you measure blades on the diagonal), center hole is a 5 pt. star, it is 3” wide and there is no offset.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Best Regards,
Cheryl Steinke
Blount International, Inc.
Technical Customer Service
Toll Free: 800-223-5168
Phone: 503-653-4581
Fax: 503-353-6423
#26
740jsmayle
740jsmayle
Thanks Serelaw . I appreciate the link.
#27
serelaw
Wow I just looked again and on page 282 at the bottom is the G6 for your mower.
Also some G5s.
Click this
serelaw
Thanks Serelaw . I appreciate the link.
Wow I just looked again and on page 282 at the bottom is the G6 for your mower.
Also some G5s.
Click this
#28
B
buddy7
We tried these gator blades on our Kubota 331's commerical mowers at work (dpw) in the mowing Dept, they suck, they don't fit put them on they hit so removed them called dealer and they said to grind them down on the ends. And in deep grass they don't move the grass like stock blades. I told the supper not to buy any more gator blades
B
buddy7
Anyone tried the Gator blades on the MZT 52? Thought it might reduce clipping size and wondered if it would improve lift. I notice sometimes mine leaves a little that the front tires run over.
We tried these gator blades on our Kubota 331's commerical mowers at work (dpw) in the mowing Dept, they suck, they don't fit put them on they hit so removed them called dealer and they said to grind them down on the ends. And in deep grass they don't move the grass like stock blades. I told the supper not to buy any more gator blades
#29
Carscw
Should have done his homework first.
Gator blades do not work good in tall thick grass. They are made to keep the grass under the deck.
If you cut the grass as you should. Before it gets out of Hand they work very good
Carscw
We tried these gator blades on our Kubota 331's commerical mowers at work (dpw) in the mowing Dept, they suck, they don't fit put them on they hit so removed them called dealer and they said to grind them down on the ends. And in deep grass they don't move the grass like stock blades. I told the supper not to buy any more gator blades
Should have done his homework first.
Gator blades do not work good in tall thick grass. They are made to keep the grass under the deck.
If you cut the grass as you should. Before it gets out of Hand they work very good