murray riding mower

[That Guy88]

So, it's the smaller connector that comes from the Chassis Harness? Does this black have a large "lump" just before it enters the connector on the engine side? If it does that is a Diode. Do you have a pic?

have no picture. at the beginning of the wire it has a two wire connector that connects back to the chassis harness then too the engine

 

[That Guy88]

doesn't crank is about a helpful as doesn't work. Do you know how to troubleshoot do a basic testing of a battery charging and starting system? Own a VOM? The battery could be dead. When was the last time it ran?

battery is good tested that out already it was 12.66 volts

 

[sgkent]

battery is good tested that out already it was 12.66 volts

if that is while cranking it is excellent or indicates resistance between it and the starter, ground etc.. If that is just sitting it really means little. It can fall to 8V or 9V when cranking. The test has to be when cranking to see how well the battery holds the voltage.

 

[That Guy88]

if that is while cranking it is excellent or indicates resistance between it and the starter, ground etc.. If that is just sitting it really means little. It can fall to 8V or 9V when cranking. The test has to be when cranking to see how well the battery holds the voltage.

the problem is it won't even begin to start

 

[BGS Mex]

Does "Not Cranking" Mean the engine doesn't turn over with the Key turned to the "Start" position? Have you tried shorting across the two (large) solenoid terminals? What voltage is at the "small" solenoid terminal when you turn the key to the "start" position?

 

[That Guy88]

Does "Not Cranking" Mean the engine doesn't turn over with the Key turned to the "Start" position? Have you tried shorting across the two (large) solenoid terminals? What voltage is at the "small" solenoid terminal when you turn the key to the "start" position?

I tried that with the original sylenoid and the 2nd post did not complete the circuit so I had to get another sylenoid to replace that one.

 

[slomo]

has 3 wires and one of those wires is black which would indicate that might be a ground

Never go off wire color to determine what is on said wire.

 

[BGS Mex]

I tried that with the original sylenoid and the 2nd post did not complete the circuit so I had to get another sylenoid to replace that one.

If you "Short Across" both terminals 12 volts goes directly to the starter. Have you done this? does the starter turn the engine over??? I haven't seen anywhere whether the starter actually works or not. If you put 12 volts directly to the positive post on the starter, and the negative from the battery to the frame; as above this will tell you if the starter actually works. Throwing parts at it will only cost money and you might get lucky.

 

[That Guy88]

If you "Short Across" both terminals 12 volts goes directly to the starter. Have you done this? does the starter turn the engine over??? I haven't seen anywhere whether the starter actually works or not. If you put 12 volts directly to the positive post on the starter, and the negative from the battery to the frame; as above this will tell you if the starter actually works. Throwing parts at it will only cost money and you might get lucky.

I tried that seeing what would happen and it worked. so after doing a continuity test on the sylenoid it did not ping

 

[BGS Mex]

I tried that seeing what would happen and it worked. so after doing a continuity test on the sylenoid it did not ping

OK; so now we know that the starter will turn the motor. The Next test is for the solenoid. Take that 12 volt source from the previous test, leaving the negative as attached, and touch it to the "Small" positive terminal on the solenoid; you should hear the "click" and the starter should turn. If it doesn't; mahe sure the solenoid is grounded properly. Let me know the result.