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Murray rider won't shift past 1st gear.

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solefate

I have a murray rider, 425014x92a, that will shift and run in reverse and 1st gear. The lever will not even move any further than first. I have little knowledge of the transaxle, but I can see there are no obstructions between there and the lever. Also, this mower has not been driven in 3+ years.


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mechanic mark

Recheck model number, not a good number. Lubricate all linkages & give it a try.


#3

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solefate

mechanic mark said:
Recheck model number, not a good number. Lubricate all linkages & give it a try.
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https://www.partstree.com/parts/mur...a-briggs-murray-42-lawn-tractor-2004-walmart/

Are you wanting the actual engine model?? I will try some dubya d on there and see what happens thanks!


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Rivets

Dana transaxle, very similar to a Perless, which you can find manuals on line. You don't say if you have a 4,5 or 6 speed , but my guess is a 5 speed. That being the case my guess is that after sitting for 3 years the shift collars are being blocked by hard grease, not allowing the keys to get past the first collar. Try this, jack up the rear end, shift it into 1st gear and with an assistant turn both wheels forward slowly. As you are turning try forcing the shift levering into 2nd. You might get lucky and get the keys to move. If you can't get it to move you will have to pull the tranny and open it up. Then again you may just disregard my post, as you posted in another thread, I'm just a bully asking for a muffle belt.


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solefate

Rivets said:
Dana transaxle, very similar to a Perless, which you can find manuals on line. You don't say if you have a 4,5 or 6 speed , but my guess is a 5 speed. That being the case my guess is that after sitting for 3 years the shift collars are being blocked by hard grease, not allowing the keys to get past the first collar. Try this, jack up the rear end, shift it into 1st gear and with an assistant turn both wheels forward slowly. As you are turning try forcing the shift levering into 2nd. You might get lucky and get the keys to move. If you can't get it to move you will have to pull the tranny and open it up. Then again you may just disregard my post, as you posted in another thread, I'm just a bully asking for a muffle belt.
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No, I only agreed your comment could have been taken in a negative manner. I, however, can take criticism and am open to any and all suggestions. Especially from those that obviously are more knowledgeable. I'm not sure how many gears, as this thing is so old there are no markers. Im inclined to agree with 5. If I do have to open this thing, is there anything to be careful of?


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Rivets

Yes, cutting your fingers. I'm not kidding, there are many sharp parts an if you don't cut yourself at least twice, you're lucky. If you do remove the tranny don't open it up until your post the Dana numbers, as you don't want it open without a parts breakdown handy. Counting the notches by the shift lever should tell you the speed. Oh by the way, my comment was intended to be negative, as it is very difficult to help anyone who is not willing to help us by giving the info we need. I also suspect he didn't know what he was doing in the first place, so he just left.


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solefate

Rivets said:
Yes, cutting your fingers. I'm not kidding, there are many sharp parts an if you don't cut yourself at least twice, you're lucky. If you do remove the tranny don't open it up until your post the Dana numbers, as you don't want it open without a parts breakdown handy. Counting the notches by the shift lever should tell you the speed. Oh by the way, my comment was intended to be negative, as it is very difficult to help anyone who is not willing to help us by giving the info we need. I also suspect he didn't know what he was doing in the first place, so he just left.
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You are probably right. Where abouts will the numbers be located?


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Rivets

Tag on the tranny, most of the time left hand side.


#9

Boobala

Boobala

HERES a users guide from a B model ( same thing ) that you can download .... may help with adjustments, ALSO.... NEW transmissions (some models) can be purchased new at ( SURPLUSCENTER.com ) enter transaxles in their catalog search bar I bought a NEW peerless for $79.00 last year, you may have to keep checking or call them, their inventory changes frequently.
Best of luck with your endevor........Boobala ....:thumbsup:

P.S. found another manual for ya ........ and a you- tube video !!


http://www.manualslib.com/manual/108761/Murray-425014x92b.html

View attachment MST SERIES TRANS..pdf

http://www.peerlessgear.com/node5379.aspx?nid=300887

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucbJ3Y-q1_c


#10

Boobala

Boobala

Boobala said:
HERES a users guide from a B model ( same thing ) that you can download .... may help with adjustments, ALSO.... NEW transmissions (some models) can be purchased new at ( SURPLUSCENTER.com ) enter transaxles in their catalog search bar I bought a NEW peerless for $79.00 last year, you may have to keep checking or call them, their inventory changes frequently.
Best of luck with your endevor........Boobala ....:thumbsup:

P.S. found another manual for ya ........ and a you- tube video !!


http://www.manualslib.com/manual/108761/Murray-425014x92b.html

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http://www.peerlessgear.com/node5379.aspx?nid=300887

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucbJ3Y-q1_c
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Sorry I forgot to mention, as a last resort theres always EVIL-BAY ...heres a link ..

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_n...ansmission 4360 c 1991&_id=231922407840&rt=nc


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solefate

Boobala said:
Sorry I forgot to mention, as a last resort theres always EVIL-BAY ...heres a link ..

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_n...ansmission 4360 c 1991&_id=231922407840&rt=nc
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Appreciate it! As soon as I can get this dang pulley off the top I can see what to do next lol.


#12

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solefate

Am I missing something on this thing? I took the top clip off the transaxle pulley, and have been banging on that thing like crazy. Is it just that dang hard or am I missing another clip or something?


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bertsmobile1

You do not need to remove the top pully.
You can split the tranny with it in place/
They rust on sold and I oft need to press the pulley off the shaft.
It just makes it harder to get to the bolts with the pulley in place.
That pulley is easily bent and the shaft is held in place by a E clip so too much smacking will dislodge the clip . bend , break or crack the housing.
You cah heat it red hot if required then hit it with PB Blaster or similar that usually shifts stubborn shafts.
Rust disolver solutions ( not pastes or converters ) can also free it up


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Rivets

Careful, if I remember right there is a bolt in a recess under the pulley which must be remove to split the halves. If you can't split the halves with all the edge bolts out, look for this bolt.


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bertsmobile1

Don't remember a bolt hiding is a recess but there were a few that were 1/12 of a turn at a time.
OTOH I have opend up about 40 boxes this past month looking for bits to pirate.
Weird that you can go for a year without touching a box then get 5 in one month.


#16

Boobala

Boobala

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Rivets said:
Careful, if I remember right there is a bolt in a recess under the pulley which must be remove to split the halves. If you can't split the halves with all the edge bolts out, look for this bolt.
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BETTER LOOK at this you-tube video BEFORE gettin in over your head...... it took me 2 days to get my pulley off..
loads of PB Blaster, and a torch with plenty of beating on the pulley shaft... you must use a brass or slightly smaller diameter than shaft..... punch , so you dont mushroom the top of the shaft, After you remove the C-clip... the
key here is patience and determination......Hope this info. is helpful .........Boobala :smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucbJ3Y-q1_c

http://www.mytractorforum.com/images/reference/Peerless_Tecumseh_Drive_Systems.pdf


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solefate

The only numbers I can find on this are 6292- PI and Tecumseh. Is that just a 600 series peerless?


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