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looking for ignition coil for lawn mower

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tracminhvu

Hi expert,

My Ignition coil is dead! yes, I tested with a ignition coil tester.
I search web for briggs and stratton "9945d" coil pack but found nothing with exact match!
Anyone know if there is a compatible coil that would work, thank you very much.

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#2

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mechanic mark

Post model xxxxxx, type xxxx, trim xx, code xxxxxxxx from engine for correct coil, thanks Mark
If description does not state B&S OEM Part, it is cheap replica.


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tracminhvu

I found this, hopefully enough: Murray 22", 5.75hp
Thanks.

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#4

ILENGINE

ILENGINE

I found this, hopefully enough: Murray 22", 5.75hp
Thanks.
What we need should be either stamped into the blower housing above the spark plug but could be under a decorative cover or stamped into the metal flap over the muffler depending on engine style


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tracminhvu

What we need should be either stamped into the blower housing above the spark plug but could be under a decorative cover or stamped into the metal flap over the muffler depending on engine style
found this: hopefully this it it, thanks.

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Rivets

Those are EPA numbers, which won’t help us. See IL’s post for engine numbers.


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StarTech

StarTech

802574


#8

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slomo

I tested with a ignition coil tester.
I would pull the kill wire off to confirm the coil good or not.


#9

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tracminhvu

Thank you all for all the help, I didn't know that is hard to find engine model for my mower, here are pics from all sides, and I can't find more information. At the very least, I think I will order 1 with the similar dimensions to make sure it fits, then cross my fingers.
Slomo, good to know, my mower has not been cleaned for 20+ years, lol.

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Rivets

The shroud in picture #5 has the engine numbers on that flap which will be over the muffler. I bet if you clean off that shroud you’ll find the numbers we are asking for. Also, that entire block needs a good cleaning.


#11

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tracminhvu

Sorry guys, I have to clean too much dirt to see this, is it good?

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#12

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slomo

Priceless.......


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ILENGINE

ILENGINE

Current superceded coil part number is 590454.


#14

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tracminhvu

Current superceded coil part number is 590454.
Thank you, I will order the part.
BTW, promise to clean up the engine after this.


#15

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slomo

BTW, promise to clean up the engine after this.
PROVE IT LOL. Little guy is filthy.

Remember, cleaning the cooling fins is a yearly maintenance item.


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StarTech

StarTech

Your engine is location in the circled area but you need to clean it good to see it.
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tracminhvu

Your engine is location in the circled area but you need to clean it good to see it.
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thanks for the comment, I just got it a few hours ago. U2R, yes, it was too dirty to see it.
Your engine is location in the circled area but you need to clean it good to see it.


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mechanic mark

A word to the wise, if part description identifies other than B&S OEM Part it is a cheap replica.


#19

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tracminhvu

thank you all very much for all the help, changed the new coil today, and get it run by 1st pull. :)


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mcHarley

Hi, I am not always shure that it is the ignition coil! I see you already took it off. Well if you clean the coil, the side off the flee wheel and the connection where you fasten the ignition coil from rust, the ignition coil needs a good connection to the body of the engine. (Closed circuit) Like a battery won't work if you got a bad " - " connection!! Try this before buying a new one.
mcHarley


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mcHarley

I don't know if it is allowed to place a link here. If not delete it. Just for help. https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005...3!sea!NL!758251723&curPageLogUid=hxIrD3b7V5Vn
This is the 590454!


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mcHarley

Does the ignition coil touch the flee wheel? On your photo it look like the coil already cleaned the side off the flee wheel. It may not touch the flee wheel, the gap between both has to be as wide as +/- 2 mm. As Thick as a card.


#23

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rbnjr2

Hi expert,

My Ignition coil is dead! yes, I tested with a ignition coil tester.
I search web for briggs and stratton "9945d" coil pack but found nothing with exact match!
Anyone know if there is a compatible coil that would work, thank you very much.
this is the closest i could find with the limited amount of info. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2851720297...cgfRNHFmRp3AEN+sxSCbF1HF0=|tkp:Bk9SR4T8upL-YQ


#24

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rbnjr2

I found this, hopefully enough: Murray 22", 5.75hp
Thanks.
I replaced one just using the hp rating and brand of mower and it works great.


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barny57

Hi expert,

My Ignition coil is dead! yes, I tested with a ignition coil tester.
I search web for briggs and stratton "9945d" coil pack but found nothing with exact match!
Anyone know if there is a compatible coil that would work, thank you very much.
Get one that’s close don’t have to be exact don’t turn it into rocket science


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TobyU

As others have stated you need the numbers off your engine but normally Briggs does stamp a number on their coil and it will be six digits long.
Your engine would have had the numbers on the metal flap above the muffler which is part of the metal shroud. That's where most of them have been for over 20 years. The earlier ones and a couple of other models had it stamped onto the end of the shroud right above the spark plug where the coil wire comes out from the little hole it comes through.
Then on the new ones they put it in a couple of places but usually on a sticker and it's become more annoying.

Yours is one of the very common two kinds of Briggs coils it's been around forever and you could pretty much go through a scrap pile of old engines and find a bunch of them.
There are a couple of different hole spacings on them with the older ones so they don't all interchange but there's only a couple of common ones.

Some of the aftermarket ones do look different than the original but still fit and function just fine.

I can't recommend buying coils locally at all as they're one of at least four parts I will never buy locally because they're overpriced and I can't recommend paying more money for a Briggs & Stratton brand coil because it'll cost you 40 to $60 when there's so many aftermarket ones available and I find they last just as long as the newer built Briggs & Stratton ones and the ones all over eBay and Amazon were typically under $12 but now it seems they're still under 20 but I saw several listings for 13-14.

My guess is this one or something like it would work just fine but without your actual engine numbers I can't look it up to the exact.


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TobyU

Usually you can just do a search or search on eBay for the horsepower and brand of your engine and put coil after it and find one that works. Remember that the newer ones don't always look like the older ones and even Briggs themselves have changed the overall look of their newer engine coils but when you're buying an aftermarket for a 20-year-old engine it may look different and function the same.



#29

chuckpen

chuckpen

Does the ignition coil touch the flee wheel? On your photo it look like the coil already cleaned the side off the flee wheel. It may not touch the flee wheel, the gap between both has to be as wide as +/- 2 mm. As Thick as a card.
rubbed area on flywheel is from the brake, not the coil. Mowers with the blade stop brake all look like that.


#30

chuckpen

chuckpen

A couple thoughts to make your efforts a success from things I have noticed in your pictures, my experiences, and are in no particular order.. :)

1. Plug up all the open areas you have and clean that engine. put dip stick filler back in, put plug in, cover the carb area with plastic. I use Spray 9 or Tough Stuff and it will clean and degrease everything, sprays off with water. I like the concentrated Spray 9, get from AMZN, you can make cleaner spray bottles with this diluted.
2. Your air box looks crooked in the pic. Tells me your carburetor mounting bolts may be loose. Get yourself a new air filter, plug, and change the oil.
3. your carb is a "chokeless version that depends on the primer bulb to squirt gas into the carb for initial start. with the cover off the air box look inside and be sure when you press the primer bulb you see a squirt of gas in the throat of the carb. If not you might need a gasket or some ferreting to find out why. If airbox / carb bolts are found to be loose, then that would cause this.
4. Check every bolt on that engine for being tight. especially the carb, air box runner that goes to the head. Everything. Don't go crazy but just check em for being run down snug.
5. Be really careful when putting on the new coil. Those mounting ears are very easy to break off (then you are done) as you are tightening steel screws into aluminum. clean, inspect, test run in both screws when mounting the new coil. I would clean the threaded holes as well and maybe use a lil WD in the holes to make it a smooth install., take some sandpaper and sand the top contact area on each post as you need a good ground between your new coil and engine. Be sure to test fit any new mounting screws that may come with new coil as the threads could be different. Do not force anything!
6. It can be easy to mount a coil backwards. be sure to get the coil oriented properly and gap the coil with a business card between coils and flywheel magnets or to about 10 thousand if you want to get crazy. Just need a gap, no rub.
7. other poster is correct; you can try pretty much any Briggs coil as they are pretty much all the same. I have a few that I keep for testing and such.

OK, I'm done ..... Apologies for singing to the choir but hey it is Saturday and I just had to get it out. :)


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TobyU

That looks about like several the ones I found on eBay and fits many of the Briggs & Stratton engines.
I will caution people though to be careful about ordering from Amazon thinking you're getting the best price because that is not usually the case.
Now occasionally, like on zone control cables, they will actually have a two pack and a much better price per unit then you can get an individual one anywhere else even from them but normally if you go to eBay and search through the sellers and scroll down a bit you will find a better deal than Amazon.
PLUS Norm of the shipping is included and they don't play that game where you have to add an extra $10 to get your free shipping or be a prime member which is not nearly as popular as it used to be.

Amazon just brushes me the wrong way way too often.
There was a time where they had much better deals on parts and I was buying some old Murray parts from them but one of the problems with Amazon is if you place an order with four or five items in that order they will often hold up your entire order over one part etc.
I would rather order five separate parts from five five separate people on eBay because I still put them all in my checkout and pay for them all at once and that way they will all get here individually but I will have the other instead of an entire order being held up because of one or two parts.
Mostly though, it's about the money. I have almost always been able to find better prices on eBay than Amazon and since you're dealing with the exact person those people typically are in the lawn mower and outdoor power equipment world and just know more about it and do a better job shipping the parts and not sending the wrong ones.


#32

superchief87

superchief87

Hi expert,

My Ignition coil is dead! yes, I tested with a ignition coil tester.
I search web for briggs and stratton "9945d" coil pack but found nothing with exact match!
Anyone know if there is a compatible coil that would work, thank you very much.
The OAKTEN Ignition Coil is compatible with Briggs and Stratton 5 HP vertical and horizontal engines and includes coil and cable for easy assembly. It fits the following part numbers: 395491, 397358, 298316, 6970371. You can find it at Home Depot for $19.56


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